Back in the days of Diego Maradona, Johan Cruyff or Pele, Barcelona's Lionel Messi would have been a substitute, says Hugo Gatti

i'm not talking about which competitions they played. i just showed you moments that how defenders were fighting for the ball in old times. today's getafe players fight for the ball better than old england team defenders. now imagine today's barcelona or r.madrid defenders. is there any comparison? today's defence is much more improved and faster + tactics. Theres no comparison

Says the guy we've never heard of, who apparently has a time machine.

billionmillion wrote:i'm not talking about which competitions they played. i just showed you moments that how defenders were fighting for the ball in old times. today's getafe players fight for the ball better than old england team defenders. now imagine today's barcelona or r.madrid defenders. is there any comparison? today's defence is much more improved and faster + tactics. Theres no comparison

1. tactics didn't exist? So they play a 1-10 formation?

2. La liga defenses aren't known for being better then national teams.

3. It wasn't even that long ago ffs, come on

translation: you guys, i'm totally relevant as a legend cause players were a lot better back in my day

...and not a single *bleep* was given

billionmillion wrote:i'm not talking about which competitions they played. i just showed you moments that how defenders were fighting for the ball in old times. today's getafe players fight for the ball better than old england team defenders. now imagine today's barcelona or r.madrid defenders. is there any comparison? today's defence is much more improved and faster + tactics. Theres no comparison

The match was in 1986. The stuff you wrote is pure crap.

Yep, Getafe had the least amount of goals conceded on par with Barcelona in the league the year that Messi scored that goal.

izzy26 wrote:

billionmillion wrote:i'm not talking about which competitions they played. i just showed you moments that how defenders were fighting for the ball in old times. today's getafe players fight for the ball better than old england team defenders. now imagine today's barcelona or r.madrid defenders. is there any comparison? today's defence is much more improved and faster + tactics. Theres no comparison

The match was in 1986. The stuff you wrote is pure crap.

who said it was not 1986?

I once dribbled 6 dogs with a ball.. Those dogs are faster and more intelligent then the English players. So does that mean I am better then Maradonna ?? Yessir !!!

delaurentishotz wrote:I once dribbled 6 dogs with a ball.. Those dogs are faster and more intelligent then the English players. So does that mean I am better then Maradonna ?? Yessir !!!

no it means you are a legend between dogs. the ball and the dog has same weight how a dog can kick the ball? do it with cows then we can discuss it

billionmillion wrote:

delaurentishotz wrote:I once dribbled 6 dogs with a ball.. Those dogs are faster and more intelligent then the English players. So does that mean I am better then Maradonna ?? Yessir !!!

no it means you are a legend between dogs. the ball and the dog has same weight how a dog can kick the ball? do it with cows then we can discuss it

What did you say ??

who cares
the greatest ever gonna win his third fifa ballon d'or

billionmillion wrote:

delaurentishotz wrote:I once dribbled 6 dogs with a ball.. Those dogs are faster and more intelligent then the English players. So does that mean I am better then Maradonna ?? Yessir !!!

no it means you are a legend between dogs. the ball and the dog has same weight how a dog can kick the ball? do it with cows then we can discuss it

Here it is. This is why Gatti has Barcelona problem, he let 9 goals in Gamper:

^ :lol!:

leemhuis wrote:He is right. The defenders had more liberty and attackers have less protection before. Messi will not play on a Argentina team of Maradona time. It was necessary much more skill and fysical strength against defenders of before. Messi have not the capability.

The overrated-slow past LoOoOoOoOoOoL

What i'm sure about that Sacchi'sACMilan [87-90] ( which is considered the best in history by some people) would FAIL badly against this Barca & Messi/Xav/Iniesta.

example:

Khaledbarca wrote:

leemhuis wrote:He is right. The defenders had more liberty and attackers have less protection before. Messi will not play on a Argentina team of Maradona time. It was necessary much more skill and fysical strength against defenders of before. Messi have not the capability.

The overrated-slow past LoOoOoOoOoOoL

What i'm sure about that Sacchi'sACMilan [87-90] ( which is considered the best in history by some people) would FAIL badly against this Barca & Messi/Xav/Iniesta.

example:

Example:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MvK2z6eUbAE&feature=related

Khaledbarca wrote:

leemhuis wrote:He is right. The defenders had more liberty and attackers have less protection before. Messi will not play on a Argentina team of Maradona time. It was necessary much more skill and fysical strength against defenders of before. Messi have not the capability.

The overrated-slow past LoOoOoOoOoOoL

What i'm sure about that Sacchi'sACMilan [87-90] ( which is considered the best in history by some people) would FAIL badly against this Barca & Messi/Xav/Iniesta.

example:

Superb job, you have broken the threshold of massive calculations, variables, and fuzzy math to prove that Barca would "destroy" just by this video that doesn't really prove anything. Hilarious.

messi would be a great player in any era ..

i believe that maradona was better than messi..but that doesn't mean messi will be a bench warmer ,he for sure is better than canigia,it is one thing to say that messi is not better than maradona or cruyf..but saying that he will be a bench warmer is completely foolish

Back in days Burgers were probably cheaper. Less burgers = less fat Messi = more ripping shit up.

Lunging on a player with a two footed tackle was perfectly legal back then.

Tackle from behind? No probs.

Ref's barely blinked at things that would be considered a straight red in today's pussy game.

It's one of kind of skill being able to dribble past a defender who's aim is to take out the ball, its another (much greater) kind of skill to maneuver past a player who's aim is to take you out (by any means).

Messi in all likelihood wont even cut the bench.

so that applies to every current player...
it's good to know modern football sucks...

billy_gr wrote:so that applies to every current player...
it's good to know modern football sucks...

You should have seen the real football, back in the day. When players were slow, unorganized, smoked, rules were silly, and the ball was slow.

And when someone was better, they were slaughtered on the spot. That's why Maradona and Pele didn't play more than couple weeks straight at the time.

never mind i've seen my share of old school football and while i'm not going to compare messi with the likes of Maradona or Pele, to say the lacks both skill and physical qualities to be part of any team (if not the star) back then is just idiotic.

messi lacking world cup success
at least score some decent goals with Argentina ffs

SoloInter wrote:messi lacking world cup success
at least score some decent goals with Argentina ffs