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Post by flameas Tue Sep 10, 2013 8:13 pm

Chiellini should play at LB. In a back four.

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Post by nasir6371 Tue Sep 10, 2013 8:22 pm

Cech Goat keeping...come on Balo No 
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Post by nasir6371 Tue Sep 10, 2013 8:33 pm

Oh man, that could have put the game out of reach.

need to make some changes... Candreva nonexistent but getting crossing blocked Maggio :facepalm:

Need to bring in SES or Insigne
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Post by flameas Tue Sep 10, 2013 8:34 pm

Thats what you get from playing Genoa level players. Also, that midfield doesnt have any strength - Pirlo and Monto at the middle - who will tackle? Whos the tough guy?
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Post by BarrileteCosmico Tue Sep 10, 2013 8:37 pm

Who does Italy even have to play DM besides DDR?
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Post by nasir6371 Tue Sep 10, 2013 8:38 pm

DDR play box to box CB Proud
got caught out but he is creating some chance at least.
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Post by Kaladin Tue Sep 10, 2013 8:39 pm

Prandelli pushed DDR to midfield in the middle of the first half, it was evident that the midfield needed some steel.. he went for a 4 at the back, 3 middle and 2 supporting Balo

I like Pasquale, he put in some impressive crosses. What i don't like is DDR as a CB, just use him in midfield. Italy doesn't have ANY player that even remotely resembles and does what DDR can do (in midfield)

Also, Maggio is a mistake waiting to happen

And Goddamnit Balo, had 4 chances to score a goal ffs
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Post by flameas Tue Sep 10, 2013 8:43 pm

I dont like the christmas tree 4-3-2-1
Balo is still so lonely up there. I just wish that in Brazil G.Rossi will help Balo out. We cant only rely on him. Also, play Florenzi instead of Monto. We need more energy in the midfield.
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Post by juventus101 Tue Sep 10, 2013 9:07 pm

It must be said. We are missing Marchisio. Dont care what the haters say, his energy, workrate, late runs in towards goal, and overall skill are exactly what we need right now.
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Post by nasir6371 Tue Sep 10, 2013 9:10 pm

juventus101 wrote:It must be said. We are missing Marchisio. Dont care what the haters say, his energy, workrate, late runs in towards goal, and overall skill are exactly what we need right now.
Not a fan but Italy can't play Pirlo and Montolivo together. Need to play either or and DDR in the Midfield.
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Post by nasir6371 Tue Sep 10, 2013 9:38 pm

Italy going to Rio :bow: :bow:
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Post by danyjr Tue Sep 10, 2013 9:40 pm

Proud
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Post by flameas Fri Sep 13, 2013 11:36 am

What formation should Italy play? Who would you call up for the WC (23 players)? I will post my opinion later.
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Post by Tomwin Lannister Fri Sep 13, 2013 4:31 pm

------------------------------Buffon-----------------------------
------------Barzagli---------Bonucci-----------Chiellini--------
Abate---------DDR----------Pirlo----------Marchisio------MDS*
---------------------------------------Rossi---------------------
------------------------------Balotelli---------------------------


Subs: Marchetti, Montolivo, Ogbonna, Maggio, Giaccherini, Candreva, Quagliarella, Cassano, Astori etc etc


I put a * by MDS, because as it stands I wouldn't start him now. But he could grow quite a bit in another year.
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Post by M99 Fri Sep 13, 2013 5:05 pm

If EL Shaarawy and Balotelli have an effective partnership this season, then ES should start for sure. As wingback I prefer Maggio rather than Abate.
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Post by Tomwin Lannister Fri Sep 13, 2013 5:09 pm

It's split for me

No doubt Maggio is great at wing back but with the left back potentially being the weak spot, somebody on the other flank with Abates defensive qualities would be reassuring

Also, SES might gell with Balo somewhat, but unless they really 'click' i'd take Rossi if he keeps this up. He's fantastic when he's fully fit.

ES's time will come. But I wouldn't have him starting at this WC personally.


As for my Marchisio inclusion, it's mainly because Italia miss him so much, with the work he puts in. To me, Monty and Pirlo in the same XI is just pointless.
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Post by M99 Fri Sep 13, 2013 5:18 pm

Think Thiago Motta should be taken. The midfield needs a backup for De Rossi.
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Post by Tomwin Lannister Fri Sep 13, 2013 5:29 pm

Agreed


Was running out of ideas on my bench

Add

SES, Sirigu, Motta
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Post by Kaladin Fri Sep 13, 2013 5:44 pm

MDS is still inexperienced at international level, he would just get skinned like that game vs Brazil. Having him as in the first XI would be too much

It has to be Criscito or Pasquale for me. If Criscito can sort his mid life crisis, injuries, corruption allegation and all the other shit then let him come back

Pasquale i really like, you saw how he bombed forward for Italy (Fio too) He's an great at going forward. And don't take him as one of those fullbacks that attack and never defend, when shit hits the fan he runs his socks off.

If Pasquale can play like that for Italia, then he shouldn't be overlooked. Especially since we have one Abate on the right flank. God knows when he sends in those once-in-a-year crosses
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Post by Kaladin Fri Sep 13, 2013 5:53 pm

Pasqual*
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Post by flameas Fri Sep 13, 2013 6:59 pm

4-3-3

GK: Buffon, Marchetti, Sirigu
RB: Maggio, Abate
CB: Bonucci, Barzaghli, Astori, Chiellini
LB: Balzaretti, Cricito

Midfielders: Pirlo, Marchisio, DDR, Florenzi, Montolivo, Verratti

Strikers: Balotelli, G.Rossi, SES, Insigne, Totti, Gabbiadini

First XI

Buffon
Maggio, Barzhagli, Bonucci, Chiellini
DDR, Pirlo, Florenzi
G.Rossi, Balo, Totti/SES

Would be solid at back even if Maggio goes on his runs, Florenzi will bring balance and work-rate, DDR is the breaker, Pirlo and Totti the creators. Rossi is speed and Balo is strength and finishing.

Thats if Totti should return. 3 men backline wont work in todays football. Simple as that.
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Post by Tomwin Lannister Fri Sep 13, 2013 7:00 pm

Flameas what an odd thing to say


Italy have played their best football in recent years with a back 3



Back 3 has gotten us 2 draws with Spain. The 2nd, unlucky not to win had it not been for Balo being out and Gila being bad.

Back 4 gets us dominated by scrubs.


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Post by Tomwin Lannister Fri Sep 13, 2013 7:01 pm

Not to mention in a back 4 Maggio is shit and our defence looks out of sorts.
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Post by flameas Fri Sep 13, 2013 7:08 pm

Maybe, but we all know that Prandelli will probably use 4 at back... Chiellini at LB would give us some defensive strenght..
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Post by Tomwin Lannister Fri Sep 13, 2013 7:10 pm

He probably will yeah

But our players are tailor made for a back 3

Last season 3 of the top 4 teams in Serie A played with a back 3.

Most of our players are suited to it and train exclusively in a back 3
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Post by flameas Fri Sep 13, 2013 7:11 pm

Chiellini at LB would mean that we could switch to a three men defense during the game. With Florenzi at LWB.
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