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Post by juventus101 Fri Apr 27, 2012 1:04 am

If ayern win the CL final and Germany win the Euro both of which i thi k will happen, how good are Schweinsteigers chances of wi ning the Ballon D'or?

Same goes for Ri ery if France/Bayern win, or Robben if Holland/Bayern win, or even someone lile Lampard of Engla d/Chelsea win?
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Post by Rebaño Sagrado Fri Apr 27, 2012 1:05 am

if my aunt had balls...
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Post by Sushi Master Fri Apr 27, 2012 1:08 am

None at all.

He was injured for most of the season and even if Germany win the Euros, he'd need to be in God mode for the 1st half of 2012/13 season. Being in the Bundesliga he has 0 chance of winning it.

Robben has been meh.

Ribéry has been a total beast... he'd deserve it above anyone else in Bayern. If France do well he might slip into 3rd place due to some Platini love.

But it's still between Ronaldo and Messi.
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Post by kiranr Fri Apr 27, 2012 1:14 am


If Xavi did not win it during his peak, what hope is there Schweini?
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Post by Le Samourai Fri Apr 27, 2012 1:16 am

juventus101 wrote:If ayern win the CL final and Germany win the Euro both of which i thi k will happen, how good are Schweinsteigers chances of wi ning the Ballon D'or?

Same goes for Ri ery if France/Bayern win, or Robben if Holland/Bayern win, or even someone lile Lampard of Engla d/Chelsea win?

Laughing
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Fri Apr 27, 2012 1:21 am

No love for Mario Gomez?

Let's face it if Bayern and Germany were to win the CL and Euro's respectively.

It would'nt have been possible without his goals.

25 goals in Bundesliga, 13 in CL and season is'nt over yet plus all the goals he would probably have to get if Germany were to win the Euro's.

He would deserve it more than any other German player at Bayern quite frankly.
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Post by Guest Fri Apr 27, 2012 1:23 am

if he has huge influence then obviously he deserves to win, even neuer or gomez but bayern being stronger is a collective performance.

besides we all know how biased FIFA is towards messi and ronaldo. nobody else doesnt even come close for them.

messi will win again. :facepalm:

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Post by the xcx Fri Apr 27, 2012 1:24 am

juventus101 wrote:If ayern win the CL final and Germany win the Euro both of which i thi k will happen, how good are Schweinsteigers chances of wi ning the Ballon D'or?

Same goes for Ri ery if France/Bayern win, or Robben if Holland/Bayern win, or even someone lile Lampard of Engla d/Chelsea win?

your clearly not sober Laughing
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Post by lenear1030 Fri Apr 27, 2012 1:31 am

Rebaño Sagrado wrote:if my aunt had balls...


you're not supposed to say that until the possibility doesn't happen.




personally i think this can happen though. my picks for euros are netherlands and germany
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Post by juventus101 Fri Apr 27, 2012 1:32 am

Lol thats the second time in two days that ive been called drunk. Im not drunk, i just have a new.phone and im not used to the keyboard yet.
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Post by Sushi Master Fri Apr 27, 2012 1:35 am

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:No love for Mario Gomez?

Let's face it if Bayern and Germany were to win the CL and Euro's respectively.

It would'nt have been possible without his goals.

25 goals in Bundesliga, 13 in CL and season is'nt over yet plus all the goals he would probably have to get if Germany were to win the Euro's.

He would deserve it more than any other German player at Bayern quite frankly.
Messi and Ronaldo have more, Bundesliga shit defenses, "one trick pony" etc... so 3rd place will probably include a midfielder or flairy type player.

Not that that makes sence... but it's how the average voter would see it.
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Fri Apr 27, 2012 1:44 am

Sushi Master wrote:
Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:No love for Mario Gomez?

Let's face it if Bayern and Germany were to win the CL and Euro's respectively.

It would'nt have been possible without his goals.

25 goals in Bundesliga, 13 in CL and season is'nt over yet plus all the goals he would probably have to get if Germany were to win the Euro's.

He would deserve it more than any other German player at Bayern quite frankly.
Messi and Ronaldo have more, Bundesliga shit defenses, "one trick pony" etc... so 3rd place will probably include a midfielder or flairy type player.

Not that that makes sence... but it's how the average voter would see it.

We are speaking in hypotheticals here though and in this hypothetical situation where Bayern win the CL and Germany win the Euros....... Messi and Ronaldo might have a tank load of goals but what does it win them? La Liga for Ronaldo and maybe Copa Del Rey for Messi....

Gomez would have probably 50 goals for club and country in the year and have the two biggest tournament medals to show off too.....

I would argue in this hypothetical situation that Gomez would probably deserve it more than Messi or Ronaldo.

Ofcourse IRL Messi and Ronaldo will be 1 and 2 even if they won no trophy's at all Laughing :facepalm:
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Post by Khaled Fri Apr 27, 2012 1:44 am

Messi will win it again... (This season, he had one of the best performances ever by a single player for a Club || add to it Stats; 63 goals, 27+ assists so far)...

1- If Germany wins the Euro; Voters will be vote for Neuer/Muller/Ozil/Schwein.. Cristiano will get some votes, but Messi wins again...

2- If Spain wins the Euro; Voters will be vote for Xavi/Iniesta/Silva/Casillas..
Cristiano will get some votes, but Messi wins again...

3-1- If Holland wins the Euro; Voters will be vote for RVP/Robben/Sneijder...
Cristiano will get some votes, but Messi wins again...

.....

The Only way that someone other than Messi will win it, IF a Miracle took place and Cristiano lead Portugal to win the Euro...
Note: Portugal has Holland, Germany and Denmark in their group... so...


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Post by Sushi Master Fri Apr 27, 2012 1:51 am

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:
Sushi Master wrote:
Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:No love for Mario Gomez?

Let's face it if Bayern and Germany were to win the CL and Euro's respectively.

It would'nt have been possible without his goals.

25 goals in Bundesliga, 13 in CL and season is'nt over yet plus all the goals he would probably have to get if Germany were to win the Euro's.

He would deserve it more than any other German player at Bayern quite frankly.
Messi and Ronaldo have more, Bundesliga shit defenses, "one trick pony" etc... so 3rd place will probably include a midfielder or flairy type player.

Not that that makes sence... but it's how the average voter would see it.

We are speaking in hypotheticals here though and in this hypothetical situation where Bayern win the CL and Germany win the Euros....... Messi and Ronaldo might have a tank load of goals but what does it win them? La Liga for Ronaldo and maybe Copa Del Rey for Messi....

Gomez would have probably 50 goals for club and country in the year and have the two biggest tournament medals to show off too.....

I would argue in this hypothetical situation that Gomez would probably deserve it more than Messi or Ronaldo.

Ofcourse IRL Messi and Ronaldo will be 1 and 2 even if they won no trophy's at all Laughing :facepalm:
Logically speaking, oh yeah. No doubts there.

If Kroos were a Germany starter he'd the the only one apart from Gómez with half a chance. But goals speak more than class.
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Post by Khaled Fri Apr 27, 2012 1:54 am

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:
Sushi Master wrote:
Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:No love for Mario Gomez?

Let's face it if Bayern and Germany were to win the CL and Euro's respectively.

It would'nt have been possible without his goals.

25 goals in Bundesliga, 13 in CL and season is'nt over yet plus all the goals he would probably have to get if Germany were to win the Euro's.

He would deserve it more than any other German player at Bayern quite frankly.
Messi and Ronaldo have more, Bundesliga shit defenses, "one trick pony" etc... so 3rd place will probably include a midfielder or flairy type player.

Not that that makes sence... but it's how the average voter would see it.

We are speaking in hypotheticals here though and in this hypothetical situation where Bayern win the CL and Germany win the Euros....... Messi and Ronaldo might have a tank load of goals but what does it win them? La Liga for Ronaldo and maybe Copa Del Rey for Messi....

Gomez would have probably 50 goals for club and country in the year and have the two biggest tournament medals to show off too.....

I would argue in this hypothetical situation that Gomez would probably deserve it more than Messi or Ronaldo.

Ofcourse IRL Messi and Ronaldo will be 1 and 2 even if they won no trophy's at all Laughing :facepalm:

Its an individual trophy for the best performance by a single player.. not for the player who won the most trophies.. trophies (UCL, Euro, WC, Leagues, Cups etc..) are won by TEAMS!

Small example; Robin van Persie was Named PFA Player of The Year;
His team (arsenal) didn't win the EPL, not even 2nd in the league..
Still, majority of us agree that he deserves it.. Why? because he had the best individual performance in the EPL this season!!

If 2 players had a very close performance individually, but one of them won more major trophies... in this case, trophies can make the difference.. (at least this is my opinion).
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Post by Noonan22 Fri Apr 27, 2012 1:55 am

If RVP lights up the Euros he might get it...
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Post by Le Samourai Fri Apr 27, 2012 1:58 am

Casillas if Spain wins the Euros IMO.

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Post by Bellabong Fri Apr 27, 2012 2:12 am

I would say Neuer if he wins both, Gomez and Kroos should be in contention as well imo as Germans if we win EC2012
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Post by The Messiah Fri Apr 27, 2012 2:44 am

Toni Kroos wins it, if that happens
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Post by Lord Awesome Fri Apr 27, 2012 2:56 am

They have to beat Chelsea first.

Germany will be defeated by Portugal.

Ronaldo's revenge? hmm
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Post by leemhuis Fri Apr 27, 2012 3:02 am

As usual, Germany will eliminate us, then have Italy in their next game.
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Post by LeBéninois Fri Apr 27, 2012 3:06 am

juventus101 wrote:If ayern win the CL final and Germany win the Euro both of which i thi k will happen, how good are Schweinsteigers chances of wi ning the Ballon D'or?

Same goes for Ri ery if France/Bayern win, or Robben if Holland/Bayern win, or even someone lile Lampard of Engla d/Chelsea win?

Are you serious ? :facepalm:
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Post by Lex Fri Apr 27, 2012 3:14 am

While we're on the subject of throwing the Balloon Door to players who absolutely don't deserve it, why not chuck Badstuber's name into the mix? He plays for Munich and Germany too, after all
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Post by ioilersrock448 Fri Apr 27, 2012 4:16 am

Phillip Lahm will win it if Bayern win CL and Germany wins the Euros...
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Post by Cotes Fri Apr 27, 2012 4:21 am

Messi is gonna win it because that is rigged...
If Sneijder didn't win it 2010 when he won a treble & runner up in world cup, what chance do those guys have?
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