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by Khaled Wed Jul 11, 2012 8:02 pm

Carlo Garganese @carlogarganese: 10 reasons why football is dead...
I could list 100 reasons, but I will leave it at 10. Getting off here before I get locked up!

10 ) Ibrahimovic and Thiago Silva could leave Milan for PSG's money

9 ) Some people actually think Cristiano Ronaldo is in the best five players of all time

8 ) There are virtually no more free kick goals (related to point 2)

7 ) Everyone but Spain and Barcelona copies the kick and rush Premier League

6 ) 99% of players are media trained = BORING

5 ) Teams like Inter don't have a single player from their own country

4 ) Players like William Gallas get given the No.10 shirt

3 ) Cradle-snatching

2 ) Plastic footballs

1 ) Manchester City are the biggest club in England

by Doc Wed Jul 11, 2012 8:05 pm

1.5) Carlo Garganese actually gets paid to write about football.

by The Franchise Wed Jul 11, 2012 8:08 pm

Football isnt dead, thats just a silly thing to say.

But of the 10, I would agree with about 6 or 7.

by EarlyPrototype Wed Jul 11, 2012 8:10 pm

Khaled wrote:Carlo Garganese @carlogarganese: 10 reasons why football is dead...
I could list 100 reasons, but I will leave it at 10. Getting off here before I get locked up!

10 ) Ibrahimovic and Thiago Silva could leave Milan for PSG's money

9 ) Some people actually think Cristiano Ronaldo is in the best five players of all time

8 ) There are virtually no more free kick goals (related to point 2)

7 ) Everyone but Spain and Barcelona copies the kick and rush Premier League

6 ) 99% of players are media trained = BORING

5 ) Teams like Inter don't have a single player from their own country

4 ) Players like William Gallas get given the No.10 shirt

3 ) Cradle-snatching

2 ) Plastic footballs

1 ) Manchester City are the biggest club in England

10) Hasn't even happened

9) There are people who think Cannavaro is the best CB of all time. People have opinions. As stupid as they may be. There will always be unusual ones.

Cool

I have seen plenty

7) You mean style of footy? Arsenal, Dortmund, Real, Bayern, Juve, Swansea? all kick and rush? I think not.

6) Players have to be professional

5) Inter must be the only big team not to have a player from their own country. I don't see how that makes football dead lmao.

4) No one gives a shit about Gallas anyway. We can just exclude him lol.

3) It has always been around.

2) Money makes the game better

1) In what world are City bigger than United, Liverpool and Arsenal? :facepalm:

by VivaStPauli Wed Jul 11, 2012 8:10 pm

Khaled wrote:Carlo Garganese @carlogarganese: 10 reasons why football is dead...
I could list 100 reasons, but I will leave it at 10. Getting off here before I get locked up!

10 ) Ibrahimovic and Thiago Silva could leave Milan for PSG's money

Players have been leaving their clubs for Reals and Milans money for years.

9 ) Some people actually think Cristiano Ronaldo is in the best five players of all time

And a couple years ago people thought Beckham was. Who cares.

8 ) There are virtually no more free kick goals (related to point 2)

There are virtually no more shit goal keepers.

7 ) Everyone but Spain and Barcelona copies the kick and rush Premier League

Except that it's the opposite of true, nobody plays kick and rush these days. Arsenal, Bayern, Real, Barca, Milan, Juve, Dortmund, BMG, Schalke - they all got a decent passing game. If anything people try to copy Barca, even though they don't necessarily succeed.

6 ) 99% of players are media trained = BORING

True, but got nothing to do with football, also the 1% that aren't still are entertaining. Just interview Balotelli and Podolski more and shut up.

5 ) Teams like Inter don't have a single player from their own country

That's shameful, but clubs like Inter, Milan, Real, Chelsea and ManU have been buying foreign players by the metric shit-ton for years.

4 ) Players like William Gallas get given the No.10 shirt

So what, players like Andi Möller or Materazzi won the World Cup, it's not like that wasn't worse and football was still great.

3 ) Cradle-snatching

I don't really think it makes a huge difference at which age the richest 5 or 6 clubs buy all the talent.

2 ) Plastic footballs

That kind of sucks on a nostalgic level, but besides the Jabulani at South American high altitudes, plastic balls never seemed to be much of a negative influence.

1 ) Manchester City are the biggest club in England

So what, they bought their success same that Chelsea and ManU did, this would have been upsetting maybe 30 years ago when English clubs still had English players as their best players.

by Great Leader Sprucenuce Wed Jul 11, 2012 8:11 pm

7 is complete and utter horse shit btw.

by Be/\/ceCALI Wed Jul 11, 2012 8:12 pm

I think most of those are stupid except for #10 and #1

#10 because there's hardly loyalty or pride/heart left in the game anymore, because it's all about $$$ for most players.

#1 because enough money can make any club the 'biggest' club

so in short, extreme wealth imbalance is what's killing football, similar to what's killing the USA.

by VivaStPauli Wed Jul 11, 2012 8:13 pm

Didn't you see us constantly hoofing the ball over our inept midfield to try and score headers at the Euros? Razz

by The Franchise Wed Jul 11, 2012 8:14 pm

I get the feeling people want to disagree just to disagree, what he said about the freekicks, the footballs and cradle snatching it very true and actually damages the game.

Some of the others arent bad enough for us to say "football is dead" but they are negative things about the game.

by VivaStPauli Wed Jul 11, 2012 8:18 pm

There never was an awful lot of free kick goals, though. And I don't see plastic footballs ruining anything.

by dronte Wed Jul 11, 2012 8:21 pm

What's cradle snatching?

by EarlyPrototype Wed Jul 11, 2012 8:23 pm

dronte wrote:What's cradle snatching?

Taking young players from other teams academies.

by Doc Wed Jul 11, 2012 8:24 pm

Andi Moller wasn't that bad Viva Sad

by dronte Wed Jul 11, 2012 8:24 pm

EarlyPrototype wrote:
dronte wrote:What's cradle snatching?

Taking young players from other teams academies.

Thanks mate

by VivaStPauli Wed Jul 11, 2012 8:24 pm

Doc wrote:Andi Moller wasn't that bad Viva

That guy dove so much, they almost gave him honorary citizenship of Spain.

by The Franchise Wed Jul 11, 2012 8:26 pm

VivaStPauli wrote:There never was an awful lot of free kick goals, though. And I don't see plastic footballs ruining anything.

Yeah, but now there is none.

Cristiano's hit and hope is actually the best method out there.

Technicians like Pirlo, Del Peiro seem to have dropped right off. Pirlo has scored like 2 in the past 5 years it seems.

Plastic balls (especially like the jubalini) changes the game. It doesnt exactly ruin it, but it makes things more difficult for some and easier for others.

by RedOranje Wed Jul 11, 2012 8:36 pm

The Franchise wrote:
VivaStPauli wrote:There never was an awful lot of free kick goals, though. And I don't see plastic footballs ruining anything.

Yeah, but now there is none.

Cristiano's hit and hope is actually the best method out there.

Technicians like Pirlo, Del Peiro seem to have dropped right off. Pirlo has scored like 2 in the past 5 years it seems.

Plastic balls (especially like the jubalini) changes the game. It doesnt exactly ruin it, but it makes things more difficult for some and easier for others.

So, in the past, the game was easier for some and more difficult for others due to leather footballs? How is one any better/worse than the other? The only thing plastic footballs due (and they're generally not actual plastic, really) is ensure that the ball(s) used in every match is more similar to those used in other matches. The change in material ensures more uniformity of equipment, meaning that on any given day a game is less likely to be influenced by a defect in the ball and more likely to be influenced by the players on the pitch. I fail to see how that's bad for the sport.

by Doc Wed Jul 11, 2012 8:40 pm

VivaStPauli wrote:
Doc wrote:Andi Moller wasn't that bad Viva

That guy dove so much, they almost gave him honorary citizenship of Spain.

Ignoring the diving (which is really hard), he was a good footballer. Certainly someone that shouldn't be placed with Materrazi...

by VivaStPauli Wed Jul 11, 2012 8:42 pm

Doc wrote:
VivaStPauli wrote:
Doc wrote:Andi Moller wasn't that bad Viva

That guy dove so much, they almost gave him honorary citizenship of Spain.

Ignoring the diving (which is really hard), he was a good footballer. Certainly someone that shouldn't be placed with Materrazi...

Okay, that's true. He was just a horrible person, but a great footballer, admittedly. But he was just horrible enough that I don't care too much about how good he was at ze football :X

by zizzle Wed Jul 11, 2012 8:48 pm

Doc wrote:1.5) Carlo Garganese actually gets paid to write about football.

by VivaStPauli Wed Jul 11, 2012 8:52 pm

zizzle wrote:
Doc wrote:1.5) Carlo Garganese actually gets paid to write about football.

by EarlyPrototype Wed Jul 11, 2012 8:53 pm

11) Sneijder to Anzhi (if reports are true) Laughing

by zizzle Wed Jul 11, 2012 8:55 pm

VivaStPauli wrote:
zizzle wrote:
Doc wrote:1.5) Carlo Garganese actually gets paid to write about football.

you're not a Carlo fan viva, are you hmm

or are you carlo in disguise hmm

by jibers Wed Jul 11, 2012 8:56 pm

Khaled wrote:Carlo Garganese @carlogarganese: 10 reasons why football is dead...
I could list 100 reasons, but I will leave it at 10. Getting off here before I get locked up!

10 ) Ibrahimovic and Thiago Silva could leave Milan for PSG's money

That never happens anywhere. Never happened with United, Barcelona, Milan or Madrid. Get a grip.

9 ) Some people actually think Cristiano Ronaldo is in the best five players of all time

No respectable person thinks this, he is not even top 10 of this generation.

8 ) There are virtually no more free kick goals (related to point 2)

Footballers have shiter technique than before. Zidane, Zola, Pirlo, Dinho, Juniniho, Becks gave the last generation an unusal amount of specialists.

7 ) Everyone but Spain and Barcelona copies the kick and rush Premier League
Biggest crock of shite I have read in a while. Juve, Madrid, Bayern, Dortmund, Gladbach, Swansea, Villareal, Bilbao, Italy, Germany, Holland, Ajax, Arsenal, I can go on and on.
6 ) 99% of players are media trained = BORING
okay... I do not watch footballers for poems and off field antics, I do not care if Terry sleeps with all his teammates wives. As long as he is shite on the pitch i odnt care how much he scores off it. Stupid point

5 ) Teams like Inter don't have a single player from their own country
That's a fair point. Could say that Arsenal are heading that way as well it seems.
4 ) Players like William Gallas get given the No.10 shirt
Give a shit, the EPL never cared about shirt numbers.
3 ) Cradle-snatching
That's the way the world is, the biggest clubs usually get the best talent. Again, get over it.
2 ) Plastic footballs
plastic fans, it fits
1 ) Manchester City are the biggest club in England

and Anji are the biggest club in Europ. Get a grip

by RealGunner Wed Jul 11, 2012 9:08 pm

hey!!! we have 4 English men in our 1st team!

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