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Re: Worst refereeing performance?
All of south korea's games in wc 2002.
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@Harhar11
That wasnt the tackle Del Horno got sent off for.
http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view6/2402523/messi-del-horno-o.gif
That wasnt the tackle Del Horno got sent off for.
http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view6/2402523/messi-del-horno-o.gif
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AltoZ wrote:So whats the worst game by a ref you have seen. The biggest robbery.
A top 5 i can name on top of my head:
1. Ovrebo, Chelsea-Barcelona 2009.
2. Moreno, South Korea-Italy 2002.
3. Graham Poll, Croatia-Australia 2006.
4. Mark Clattenburg, Chelsea-United 2012.
5. Wolfgang Stark, Real-Barcelona 2011.
HM: Whoever was in charge of the South Korea-Spain game, 2002.
Game was rigged in S.Korea's favour from the start, and no im not Italian, but this game was a disgrace for football. Italy were well and truly robbed and it still makes me angry to this day...Shame on you FIFA !...
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AltoZ wrote:@Harhar11
That wasnt the tackle Del Horno got sent off for.
http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view6/2402523/messi-del-horno-o.gif
I know that it wasn't that tackle that he got sent off for seeing as he, disgracefully, didnt even get a yellow card for one. But that doesn't change the fact that Barca was team who got "robbed" in that game seeing as Del Horno should have been sent off 10 minutes earlier and Barca should have had 2 penalties. So I have absolutely no idea why you brought up that game.
Oh and also, I love it how people criticize Messi for acting after that tackle and yet Del Horno was rolling on the pitch even more than Messi and no one said anything:lol:
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As I recall Moreno did the job on Spain, Italy and Portugal. That is like doing the treble.
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Easily the worst officiated goal
1. Zlatan should have not played - Zlatan gets unprecedented 1 game off the ban from Platini, the Frenchie
2. Stark should have stopped the game with two Barca players with head injury - burt PSG gets a corner
3. Barca starting good looking counter attack - Stark gifts freekick to PSG from nothing
4. Zlatan scores from 1000 meters from offide.
Never seen such thing in my life. Why didn't they just start the game from 1-0?
1. Zlatan should have not played - Zlatan gets unprecedented 1 game off the ban from Platini, the Frenchie
2. Stark should have stopped the game with two Barca players with head injury - burt PSG gets a corner
3. Barca starting good looking counter attack - Stark gifts freekick to PSG from nothing
4. Zlatan scores from 1000 meters from offide.
Never seen such thing in my life. Why didn't they just start the game from 1-0?
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Harmonica wrote:Easily the worst officiated goal
1. Zlatan should have not played - Zlatan gets unprecedented 1 game off the ban from Platini, the Frenchie
2. Stark should have stopped the game with two Barca players with head injury - burt PSG gets a corner
3. Barca starting good looking counter attack - Stark gifts freekick to PSG from nothing
4. Zlatan scores from 1000 meters from offide.
Never seen such thing in my life. Why didn't they just start the game from 1-0?
No, you just don't cancel an ongoing attack for players laying on the ground, especially if two players from the same team hurt each the other.
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Harmonica wrote:
2. Stark should have stopped the game with two Barca players with head injury - burt PSG gets a corner
No chance he could have stopped it immediately, did you see how fast the play was evolving around the 2 injured Barca players? By the time Ibra shot at goal, both prolly just landed on the ground.
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It's a moot point anyway. A blow to the knee results in a head injury for Barca players. If a ref blew up every time a Barca player got a "head" injury, games would go on for days
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All I will say about this ref is, imagine if Messi gets a red card and has to miss a couple of a games but then UEFA do something that they NEVER do and reduce the suspension. So he is available to play a very important game and in the process scores a goal that was blatantly offside, prolly by a meter or 2.
How do you think the haters would react?
How do you think the haters would react?
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A ridiculous performance but hey referee's are human, its not like they get paid to be biased...
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It's not about who hurts who, that's not why referee stops play in such cases, especially when it's an accident.OLpower wrote:Harmonica wrote:Easily the worst officiated goal
1. Zlatan should have not played - Zlatan gets unprecedented 1 game off the ban from Platini, the Frenchie
2. Stark should have stopped the game with two Barca players with head injury - burt PSG gets a corner
3. Barca starting good looking counter attack - Stark gifts freekick to PSG from nothing
4. Zlatan scores from 1000 meters from offide.
Never seen such thing in my life. Why didn't they just start the game from 1-0?
No, you just don't cancel an ongoing attack for players laying on the ground, especially if two players from the same team hurt each the other.
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Harmonica wrote:It's not about who hurts who, that's not why referee stops play in such cases, especially when it's an accident.OLpower wrote:Harmonica wrote:Easily the worst officiated goal
1. Zlatan should have not played - Zlatan gets unprecedented 1 game off the ban from Platini, the Frenchie
2. Stark should have stopped the game with two Barca players with head injury - burt PSG gets a corner
3. Barca starting good looking counter attack - Stark gifts freekick to PSG from nothing
4. Zlatan scores from 1000 meters from offide.
Never seen such thing in my life. Why didn't they just start the game from 1-0?
No, you just don't cancel an ongoing attack for players laying on the ground, especially if two players from the same team hurt each the other.
If the play was so easily stopped by the referee when there is a dangerous situation, then all players would fake and lay on the ground to cancel any opportunity.
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That's why referee judges the incidents, Mascherano is at least 6 weeks out with knee injury, so it's not like anybody faked anything.OLpower wrote:Harmonica wrote:It's not about who hurts who, that's not why referee stops play in such cases, especially when it's an accident.OLpower wrote:
No, you just don't cancel an ongoing attack for players laying on the ground, especially if two players from the same team hurt each the other.
If the play was so easily stopped by the referee when there is a dangerous situation, then all players would fake and lay on the ground to cancel any opportunity.
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Stark is a terrible referee but his decision to continue play despite the "injury" was correct.
Let's be honest Barca players are all divers, play actors and always embellish contact. Whenever I see one of them on the ground I always have trouble believing that they are really injured at all and 9 times out of 10 I'm correct. Even when they do get hurt they turn up he showmanship to 11 just to make sure that the other player getting a yellow becomes likely. (Iniesta pretending he was punched in the face )
Great team but cheating is second nature to them, it ridiculous how easy they make it look.
Let's be honest Barca players are all divers, play actors and always embellish contact. Whenever I see one of them on the ground I always have trouble believing that they are really injured at all and 9 times out of 10 I'm correct. Even when they do get hurt they turn up he showmanship to 11 just to make sure that the other player getting a yellow becomes likely. (Iniesta pretending he was punched in the face )
Great team but cheating is second nature to them, it ridiculous how easy they make it look.
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Harmonica wrote:That's why referee judges the incidents, Mascherano is at least 6 weeks out with knee injury, so it's not like anybody faked anything.OLpower wrote:Harmonica wrote:It's not about who hurts who, that's not why referee stops play in such cases, especially when it's an accident.
If the play was so easily stopped by the referee when there is a dangerous situation, then all players would fake and lay on the ground to cancel any opportunity.
The referee can't do a medical analysis on the spot. He has to wait the action to finish.
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That's why referee judges the incidents. And no, stopping play in such cases happen almost in every match, without medical analysis.OLpower wrote:Harmonica wrote:That's why referee judges the incidents, Mascherano is at least 6 weeks out with knee injury, so it's not like anybody faked anything.OLpower wrote:
If the play was so easily stopped by the referee when there is a dangerous situation, then all players would fake and lay on the ground to cancel any opportunity.
The referee can't do a medical analysis on the spot. He has to wait the action to finish.
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Wolfgang Stark is known to be the worst referee in Germany. Just go to Transfermarkt (biggest German football forum) and read the comments when it was announced that Stark would ref the game: http://www.transfermarkt.de/de/stark-pfeift-paris--barca/topic/ansicht_228_24332_seite1.html
Here with Google Translate (you easily get the gist): http://translate.google.de/translate?sl=de&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=de&ie=UTF-8&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.transfermarkt.de%2Fde%2Fstark-pfeift-paris--barca%2Ftopic%2Fansicht_228_24332_seite1.html
Here with Google Translate (you easily get the gist): http://translate.google.de/translate?sl=de&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=de&ie=UTF-8&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.transfermarkt.de%2Fde%2Fstark-pfeift-paris--barca%2Ftopic%2Fansicht_228_24332_seite1.html
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harhar11 wrote:All I will say about this ref is, imagine if Messi gets a red card and has to miss a couple of a games but then UEFA do something that they NEVER do and reduce the suspension. So he is available to play a very important game and in the process scores a goal that was blatantly offside, prolly by a meter or 2.
How do you think the haters would react?
Except that Ibrahimovic's suspension was reduced for a completely legitimate reason.
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@harmonica lol no. you don't stop play when a player is injured and the opposition team is in attack
Referee don't have to blow at all unless a serious injury in which they have their collegues help of determining the extent but teams kick the ball out out of good sportsmanship.
for example this weekend Zaragoza were doing that alot and in the end the referee told us to take the throw in knowing full well a Zaragoza player was on the ground because he had frankly gotten tired of them pretending to be injured calling the medical team only to return straight away
Hut if a tackle hws been deemed very dangerous where both opposition players are on the ground referees usually blow in this case he let them play on since they were attacking and not passing it back to their defender
Referee don't have to blow at all unless a serious injury in which they have their collegues help of determining the extent but teams kick the ball out out of good sportsmanship.
for example this weekend Zaragoza were doing that alot and in the end the referee told us to take the throw in knowing full well a Zaragoza player was on the ground because he had frankly gotten tired of them pretending to be injured calling the medical team only to return straight away
Hut if a tackle hws been deemed very dangerous where both opposition players are on the ground referees usually blow in this case he let them play on since they were attacking and not passing it back to their defender
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But he was great when he was ref in Madrid v Barca in 2011 right?
Stark is a terrible ref, he always loses the flow of games and almost all the big matches he is in charge of devolve into both teams asking for fouls which he gives based on the colour of his mood ring and the position of Venus. He has zero consistency, poor communication with players and poor positioning to see incidents.
Stark is a terrible ref, he always loses the flow of games and almost all the big matches he is in charge of devolve into both teams asking for fouls which he gives based on the colour of his mood ring and the position of Venus. He has zero consistency, poor communication with players and poor positioning to see incidents.
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he is the second best referee in the world apparently after Howard Webb
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Zealous wrote:But he was great when he was ref in Madrid v Barca in 2011 right?
Yes. One of the few games he got spot on.
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Harmonica wrote:That's why referee judges the incidents. And no, stopping play in such cases happen almost in every match, without medical analysis.OLpower wrote:Harmonica wrote:That's why referee judges the incidents, Mascherano is at least 6 weeks out with knee injury, so it's not like anybody faked anything.
The referee can't do a medical analysis on the spot. He has to wait the action to finish.
Referee only stop the play when all the dangerousity of the action has stopped. If he sees an open fracture he will stop it, if he just sees a player laying on the ground, he will allow the chance of scoring to continue.
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There is no such rule in football.OLpower wrote:Harmonica wrote:That's why referee judges the incidents. And no, stopping play in such cases happen almost in every match, without medical analysis.OLpower wrote:
The referee can't do a medical analysis on the spot. He has to wait the action to finish.
Referee only stop the play when all the dangerousity of the action has stopped. If he sees an open fracture he will stop it, if he just sees a player laying on the ground, he will allow the chance of scoring to continue.
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