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Post by stunt Sun Mar 31, 2013 6:32 pm

All of south korea's games in wc 2002.

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Post by AltoZ Sun Mar 31, 2013 7:52 pm

@Harhar11

That wasnt the tackle Del Horno got sent off for.

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Post by Grooverider Sun Mar 31, 2013 8:59 pm

AltoZ wrote:So whats the worst game by a ref you have seen. The biggest robbery.

A top 5 i can name on top of my head:

1. Ovrebo, Chelsea-Barcelona 2009.
2. Moreno, South Korea-Italy 2002.
3. Graham Poll, Croatia-Australia 2006.
4. Mark Clattenburg, Chelsea-United 2012.
5. Wolfgang Stark, Real-Barcelona 2011.

HM: Whoever was in charge of the South Korea-Spain game, 2002.

Game was rigged in S.Korea's favour from the start, and no im not Italian, but this game was a disgrace for football. Italy were well and truly robbed and it still makes me angry to this day...Shame on you FIFA !... Evil or Very Mad
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Post by harhar11 Sun Mar 31, 2013 11:20 pm

AltoZ wrote:@Harhar11

That wasnt the tackle Del Horno got sent off for.

http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view6/2402523/messi-del-horno-o.gif

I know that it wasn't that tackle that he got sent off for seeing as he, disgracefully, didnt even get a yellow card for one. But that doesn't change the fact that Barca was team who got "robbed" in that game seeing as Del Horno should have been sent off 10 minutes earlier and Barca should have had 2 penalties. So I have absolutely no idea why you brought up that game.

Oh and also, I love it how people criticize Messi for acting after that tackle and yet Del Horno was rolling on the pitch even more than Messi and no one said anything:lol:

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Post by abetelle Mon Apr 01, 2013 2:40 am

As I recall Moreno did the job on Spain, Italy and Portugal. That is like doing the treble.

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Post by Albiceleste Tue Apr 02, 2013 10:58 pm

:fishing:

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Post by Harmonica Tue Apr 02, 2013 11:11 pm

Easily the worst officiated goal

1. Zlatan should have not played - Zlatan gets unprecedented 1 game off the ban from Platini, the Frenchie
2. Stark should have stopped the game with two Barca players with head injury - burt PSG gets a corner
3. Barca starting good looking counter attack - Stark gifts freekick to PSG from nothing
4. Zlatan scores from 1000 meters from offide.

Never seen such thing in my life. Why didn't they just start the game from 1-0?
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Post by OLpower Tue Apr 02, 2013 11:20 pm

Harmonica wrote:Easily the worst officiated goal

1. Zlatan should have not played - Zlatan gets unprecedented 1 game off the ban from Platini, the Frenchie
2. Stark should have stopped the game with two Barca players with head injury - burt PSG gets a corner
3. Barca starting good looking counter attack - Stark gifts freekick to PSG from nothing
4. Zlatan scores from 1000 meters from offide.

Never seen such thing in my life. Why didn't they just start the game from 1-0?

No, you just don't cancel an ongoing attack for players laying on the ground, especially if two players from the same team hurt each the other.
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Post by RED Tue Apr 02, 2013 11:25 pm

Harmonica wrote:


2. Stark should have stopped the game with two Barca players with head injury - burt PSG gets a corner

No chance he could have stopped it immediately, did you see how fast the play was evolving around the 2 injured Barca players? By the time Ibra shot at goal, both prolly just landed on the ground.
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Post by Lex Tue Apr 02, 2013 11:33 pm

It's a moot point anyway. A blow to the knee results in a head injury for Barca players. If a ref blew up every time a Barca player got a "head" injury, games would go on for days
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Post by harhar11 Tue Apr 02, 2013 11:43 pm

All I will say about this ref is, imagine if Messi gets a red card and has to miss a couple of a games but then UEFA do something that they NEVER do and reduce the suspension. So he is available to play a very important game and in the process scores a goal that was blatantly offside, prolly by a meter or 2.

How do you think the haters would react? Laughing

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Post by The Sanchez Wed Apr 03, 2013 6:38 am

A ridiculous performance but hey referee's are human, its not like they get paid to be biased... :coffee:
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Post by Harmonica Wed Apr 03, 2013 11:14 am

OLpower wrote:
Harmonica wrote:Easily the worst officiated goal

1. Zlatan should have not played - Zlatan gets unprecedented 1 game off the ban from Platini, the Frenchie
2. Stark should have stopped the game with two Barca players with head injury - burt PSG gets a corner
3. Barca starting good looking counter attack - Stark gifts freekick to PSG from nothing
4. Zlatan scores from 1000 meters from offide.

Never seen such thing in my life. Why didn't they just start the game from 1-0?

No, you just don't cancel an ongoing attack for players laying on the ground, especially if two players from the same team hurt each the other.
It's not about who hurts who, that's not why referee stops play in such cases, especially when it's an accident.
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Post by OLpower Wed Apr 03, 2013 11:26 am

Harmonica wrote:
OLpower wrote:
Harmonica wrote:Easily the worst officiated goal

1. Zlatan should have not played - Zlatan gets unprecedented 1 game off the ban from Platini, the Frenchie
2. Stark should have stopped the game with two Barca players with head injury - burt PSG gets a corner
3. Barca starting good looking counter attack - Stark gifts freekick to PSG from nothing
4. Zlatan scores from 1000 meters from offide.

Never seen such thing in my life. Why didn't they just start the game from 1-0?

No, you just don't cancel an ongoing attack for players laying on the ground, especially if two players from the same team hurt each the other.
It's not about who hurts who, that's not why referee stops play in such cases, especially when it's an accident.

If the play was so easily stopped by the referee when there is a dangerous situation, then all players would fake and lay on the ground to cancel any opportunity.
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Post by Harmonica Wed Apr 03, 2013 11:31 am

OLpower wrote:
Harmonica wrote:
OLpower wrote:

No, you just don't cancel an ongoing attack for players laying on the ground, especially if two players from the same team hurt each the other.
It's not about who hurts who, that's not why referee stops play in such cases, especially when it's an accident.

If the play was so easily stopped by the referee when there is a dangerous situation, then all players would fake and lay on the ground to cancel any opportunity.
That's why referee judges the incidents, Mascherano is at least 6 weeks out with knee injury, so it's not like anybody faked anything.
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Post by Zealous Wed Apr 03, 2013 11:56 am

Stark is a terrible referee but his decision to continue play despite the "injury" was correct.

Let's be honest Barca players are all divers, play actors and always embellish contact. Whenever I see one of them on the ground I always have trouble believing that they are really injured at all and 9 times out of 10 I'm correct. Even when they do get hurt they turn up he showmanship to 11 just to make sure that the other player getting a yellow becomes likely. (Iniesta pretending he was punched in the face No)

Great team but cheating is second nature to them, it ridiculous how easy they make it look.

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Post by OLpower Wed Apr 03, 2013 11:57 am

Harmonica wrote:
OLpower wrote:
Harmonica wrote:It's not about who hurts who, that's not why referee stops play in such cases, especially when it's an accident.

If the play was so easily stopped by the referee when there is a dangerous situation, then all players would fake and lay on the ground to cancel any opportunity.
That's why referee judges the incidents, Mascherano is at least 6 weeks out with knee injury, so it's not like anybody faked anything.

The referee can't do a medical analysis on the spot. He has to wait the action to finish.
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Post by Harmonica Wed Apr 03, 2013 12:02 pm

OLpower wrote:
Harmonica wrote:
OLpower wrote:

If the play was so easily stopped by the referee when there is a dangerous situation, then all players would fake and lay on the ground to cancel any opportunity.
That's why referee judges the incidents, Mascherano is at least 6 weeks out with knee injury, so it's not like anybody faked anything.

The referee can't do a medical analysis on the spot. He has to wait the action to finish.
That's why referee judges the incidents. And no, stopping play in such cases happen almost in every match, without medical analysis.
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Post by futbol Wed Apr 03, 2013 12:07 pm

Wolfgang Stark is known to be the worst referee in Germany. Just go to Transfermarkt (biggest German football forum) and read the comments when it was announced that Stark would ref the game: http://www.transfermarkt.de/de/stark-pfeift-paris--barca/topic/ansicht_228_24332_seite1.html

Here with Google Translate (you easily get the gist): http://translate.google.de/translate?sl=de&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=de&ie=UTF-8&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.transfermarkt.de%2Fde%2Fstark-pfeift-paris--barca%2Ftopic%2Fansicht_228_24332_seite1.html

Laughing

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Post by 7amood11 Wed Apr 03, 2013 12:09 pm

harhar11 wrote:All I will say about this ref is, imagine if Messi gets a red card and has to miss a couple of a games but then UEFA do something that they NEVER do and reduce the suspension. So he is available to play a very important game and in the process scores a goal that was blatantly offside, prolly by a meter or 2.

How do you think the haters would react? Laughing

Except that Ibrahimovic's suspension was reduced for a completely legitimate reason.
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Post by halamadrid2 Wed Apr 03, 2013 12:09 pm

@harmonica lol no. you don't stop play when a player is injured and the opposition team is in attack

Referee don't have to blow at all unless a serious injury in which they have their collegues help of determining the extent but teams kick the ball out out of good sportsmanship.

for example this weekend Zaragoza were doing that alot and in the end the referee told us to take the throw in knowing full well a Zaragoza player was on the ground because he had frankly gotten tired of them pretending to be injured calling the medical team only to return straight away

Hut if a tackle hws been deemed very dangerous where both opposition players are on the ground referees usually blow in this case he let them play on since they were attacking and not passing it back to their defender


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Post by Zealous Wed Apr 03, 2013 12:12 pm

But he was great when he was ref in Madrid v Barca in 2011 right? Rolling Eyes

Stark is a terrible ref, he always loses the flow of games and almost all the big matches he is in charge of devolve into both teams asking for fouls which he gives based on the colour of his mood ring and the position of Venus. He has zero consistency, poor communication with players and poor positioning to see incidents.

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Post by halamadrid2 Wed Apr 03, 2013 12:14 pm

he is the second best referee in the world apparently after Howard Webb Proud
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Post by futbol Wed Apr 03, 2013 12:14 pm

Zealous wrote:But he was great when he was ref in Madrid v Barca in 2011 right? Rolling Eyes

Yes. One of the few games he got spot on. :coffee:

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Post by OLpower Wed Apr 03, 2013 12:31 pm

Harmonica wrote:
OLpower wrote:
Harmonica wrote:That's why referee judges the incidents, Mascherano is at least 6 weeks out with knee injury, so it's not like anybody faked anything.

The referee can't do a medical analysis on the spot. He has to wait the action to finish.
That's why referee judges the incidents. And no, stopping play in such cases happen almost in every match, without medical analysis.

Referee only stop the play when all the dangerousity of the action has stopped. If he sees an open fracture he will stop it, if he just sees a player laying on the ground, he will allow the chance of scoring to continue.
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Post by Harmonica Wed Apr 03, 2013 12:32 pm

OLpower wrote:
Harmonica wrote:
OLpower wrote:

The referee can't do a medical analysis on the spot. He has to wait the action to finish.
That's why referee judges the incidents. And no, stopping play in such cases happen almost in every match, without medical analysis.

Referee only stop the play when all the dangerousity of the action has stopped. If he sees an open fracture he will stop it, if he just sees a player laying on the ground, he will allow the chance of scoring to continue.
There is no such rule in football.
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