Re: Worst refereeing performance?

by Harmonica Wed Apr 03, 2013 12:32 pm

OLpower wrote:
Harmonica wrote:
OLpower wrote:

The referee can't do a medical analysis on the spot. He has to wait the action to finish.
That's why referee judges the incidents. And no, stopping play in such cases happen almost in every match, without medical analysis.

Referee only stop the play when all the dangerousity of the action has stopped. If he sees an open fracture he will stop it, if he just sees a player laying on the ground, he will allow the chance of scoring to continue.

There is no such rule in football.

by free_cat Wed Apr 03, 2013 12:35 pm

Refs can stop the game whenever they feel like when a player or players are on the ground.

Anyway, very unsporting behaviour from PSG.

by Tomwin Lannister Wed Apr 03, 2013 12:37 pm

The only way to stop it is to add technology. But showing Platini or blatter some technology is like taking a torch back in time to the stone ages and watching the Cavemen tremble in fear when you shine it on them Laughing

I'm not suggesting we stop the match every 10 seconds but if there's an important decision to make, watching the video then making a call would probably take up less time than 15 grown men shouting over each other and being spoken to/booked.

There's too much money in football to have games turned on their head because the reff didn't see a tackle properly or the linesman went full retard.

by OLpower Wed Apr 03, 2013 12:42 pm

Harmonica wrote:
OLpower wrote:
Harmonica wrote:That's why referee judges the incidents. And no, stopping play in such cases happen almost in every match, without medical analysis.

Referee only stop the play when all the dangerousity of the action has stopped. If he sees an open fracture he will stop it, if he just sees a player laying on the ground, he will allow the chance of scoring to continue.
There is no such rule in football.

There is no rule saying that the referee has to stop the play and deny the team a chance to score if a Barcelona player lays on the pitch.

by Zealous Wed Apr 03, 2013 12:43 pm

Or how about the linesman didn't believe the clear play acting and decided to allow play to continue hmm

by OLpower Wed Apr 03, 2013 12:44 pm

free_cat wrote:Refs can stop the game whenever they feel like when a player or players are on the ground.

Anyway, very unsporting behaviour from PSG.

You would have done exactly the same if you were 0-1 with 20 minutes to play. Don't pretend the contrary please.

by Harmonica Wed Apr 03, 2013 12:47 pm

OLpower wrote:
Harmonica wrote:
OLpower wrote:

Referee only stop the play when all the dangerousity of the action has stopped. If he sees an open fracture he will stop it, if he just sees a player laying on the ground, he will allow the chance of scoring to continue.
There is no such rule in football.

There is no rule saying that the referee has to stop the play and deny the team a chance to score if a Barcelona player lays on the pitch.

The referee judges the incident and the severity, and stops the play accordingly. There is such rule in football.

by OLpower Wed Apr 03, 2013 12:49 pm

Harmonica wrote:
OLpower wrote:
Harmonica wrote:There is no such rule in football.

There is no rule saying that the referee has to stop the play and deny the team a chance to score if a Barcelona player lays on the pitch.
The referee judges the incident and the severity, and stops the play accordingly. There is such rule in football.

Then he judged that two barcelona players stupidly hurting each other did not warrant to cancel a PSG chance to score.

by Harmonica Wed Apr 03, 2013 12:51 pm

OLpower wrote:
Harmonica wrote:
OLpower wrote:

There is no rule saying that the referee has to stop the play and deny the team a chance to score if a Barcelona player lays on the pitch.
The referee judges the incident and the severity, and stops the play accordingly. There is such rule in football.

Then he judged that two barcelona players stupidly hurting each other did not warrant to cancel a PSG chance to score.

Again, who hurt who doesn't matter.

by Le Samourai Wed Apr 03, 2013 12:51 pm

Without a doubt Spain and Italy vs South Korea in 2002.

Dubbious calls, wrong decisions and the like have endured throughout the history of football, but that's the closest it has come to clear, deliberate cheating.

At least from what I've seen.

Spain-Italy could have been a great game Sad

by OLpower Wed Apr 03, 2013 12:53 pm

Harmonica wrote:
OLpower wrote:
Harmonica wrote:The referee judges the incident and the severity, and stops the play accordingly. There is such rule in football.

Then he judged that two barcelona players stupidly hurting each other did not warrant to cancel a PSG chance to score.
Again, who hurt who doesn't matter.

It does. You don't cancel a chance for the opposing team when two players from the other team are the only one involved.

They made a mistake, they pay for it. As simple as that. Too easy to ask the referee to help them to eraze their error.

by Harmonica Wed Apr 03, 2013 12:55 pm

OLpower wrote:
Harmonica wrote:
OLpower wrote:

Then he judged that two barcelona players stupidly hurting each other did not warrant to cancel a PSG chance to score.
Again, who hurt who doesn't matter.

It does. You don't cancel a chance for the opposing team when two players from the other team are the only one involved.

They made a mistake, they pay for it. As simple as that. Too easy to ask the referee to help them to eraze their error.

I already explained, the rule is not about advantage for anyone, it's about well being of players. If teammate kicked his goalie in the head, the play would be stopped.

by OLpower Wed Apr 03, 2013 12:59 pm

Harmonica wrote:
OLpower wrote:
Harmonica wrote:Again, who hurt who doesn't matter.

It does. You don't cancel a chance for the opposing team when two players from the other team are the only one involved.

They made a mistake, they pay for it. As simple as that. Too easy to ask the referee to help them to eraze their error.
I already explained, the rule is not about advantage for anyone, it's about well being of players. If teammate kicked his goalie in the head, the play would be stopped.

I disagree with your explanation. Unless the danger appears imminent, there is not reason to kill off the chance. None of the referee estimated that Barcelona big defensive mistake was worth to kill a PSG chance.

They were later proved right.

by Harmonica Wed Apr 03, 2013 1:05 pm

OLpower wrote:
Harmonica wrote:
OLpower wrote:

It does. You don't cancel a chance for the opposing team when two players from the other team are the only one involved.

They made a mistake, they pay for it. As simple as that. Too easy to ask the referee to help them to eraze their error.
I already explained, the rule is not about advantage for anyone, it's about well being of players. If teammate kicked his goalie in the head, the play would be stopped.

I disagree with your explanation. Unless the danger appears imminent, there is not reason to kill off the chance. None of the referee estimated that Barcelona big defensive mistake was worth to kill a PSG chance.

They were later proved right.

There is no such rules in football.

In the feed it looked like three player collision, and it looked severe, with two Barca players holding their heads. For that the play should have been stopped. Indestructible Mashcerano is 6 weeks out so there obviously was a hard collision.

by OLpower Wed Apr 03, 2013 1:06 pm

Harmonica wrote:
OLpower wrote:
Harmonica wrote:I already explained, the rule is not about advantage for anyone, it's about well being of players. If teammate kicked his goalie in the head, the play would be stopped.

I disagree with your explanation. Unless the danger appears imminent, there is not reason to kill off the chance. None of the referee estimated that Barcelona big defensive mistake was worth to kill a PSG chance.

They were later proved right.
There is no such rules in football.

In the feed it looked like three player collision, and it looked severe, with two Barca players holding their heads. For that the play should have been stopped. Mashcerano is 6 weeks out so there obviously was a hard collision.

Mascherano was back on the pitch 2 minutes after to defend. It did not deserve anything else than allowing the play to continue.

by Harmonica Wed Apr 03, 2013 1:08 pm

OLpower wrote:
Harmonica wrote:
OLpower wrote:

I disagree with your explanation. Unless the danger appears imminent, there is not reason to kill off the chance. None of the referee estimated that Barcelona big defensive mistake was worth to kill a PSG chance.

They were later proved right.
There is no such rules in football.

In the feed it looked like three player collision, and it looked severe, with two Barca players holding their heads. For that the play should have been stopped. Mashcerano is 6 weeks out so there obviously was a hard collision.

Mascherano was back on the pitch 2 minutes after to defend. It did not deserve anything else than allowing the play to continue.

He's a warrior of thoughest kind, what else is new? By the rules, and subjective severity the play should have been stopped.

by Zealous Wed Apr 03, 2013 1:09 pm

Harmonica wrote:
OLpower wrote:
Harmonica wrote:There is no such rules in football.

In the feed it looked like three player collision, and it looked severe, with two Barca players holding their heads. For that the play should have been stopped. Mashcerano is 6 weeks out so there obviously was a hard collision.

Mascherano was back on the pitch 2 minutes after to defend. It did not deserve anything else than allowing the play to continue.
He's a warrior of thoughest kind, what else is new? By the rules, and subjective severity the play should have been stopped.

by OLpower Wed Apr 03, 2013 1:10 pm

Harmonica wrote:
OLpower wrote:
Harmonica wrote:There is no such rules in football.

In the feed it looked like three player collision, and it looked severe, with two Barca players holding their heads. For that the play should have been stopped. Mashcerano is 6 weeks out so there obviously was a hard collision.

Mascherano was back on the pitch 2 minutes after to defend. It did not deserve anything else than allowing the play to continue.
He's a warrior of thoughest kind, what else is new? By the rules, and subjective severity the play should have been stopped.

Barcelona fans are the only one who think that the play should have been stopped. The referees, the neutral observers, all thought that all was fine.

Like I said, if you allow chances to be destroyed by players laying on the ground due to a teammate collision, then it is the end of football.

by halamadrid2 Wed Apr 03, 2013 1:13 pm

I find it very funny that Barca fans condemn the reff for not blowing when a player was down when psg were in attack. is this really an issue?? talk about clutching at straws smfh

barca do it as well ffs

by Harmonica Wed Apr 03, 2013 1:14 pm

OLpower wrote:
Harmonica wrote:
OLpower wrote:

Mascherano was back on the pitch 2 minutes after to defend. It did not deserve anything else than allowing the play to continue.
He's a warrior of thoughest kind, what else is new? By the rules, and subjective severity the play should have been stopped.

Barcelona fans are the only one who think that the play should have been stopped. The referees, the neutral observers, all thought that all was fine.

Like I said, if you allow chances to be destroyed by players laying on the ground due to a teammate collision, then it is the end of football.

Only uneducated people are the ones, who don't understand the rules of the game, can't understand the obvious logicality behind it, and doesn't have an objective mind.

Chanses doesn't matter, teammate doesn't matter, by the rules. And it's actually correct rule.

by halamadrid2 Wed Apr 03, 2013 1:16 pm

then why dont you quote this so called rule then you very educater just belw Einstein man Proud

by Harmonica Wed Apr 03, 2013 1:22 pm

halamadrid2 wrote:then why dont you quote this so called rule then you very educater just belw Einstein man

Laws of the game 2012-2013

The referee must adhere to the following procedure when dealing with injured players.

- play is allowed to continue until the ball is out of play if player is, in the opinion of the referee, only slightly injured
- play is stopped if, in the opinion of the referee, a player is seriously injured

- a severe injury has occured e.q. swallowed tongue, concussion, broken leg

Which the last two seemed plausible, and the last one actually was

by MaraVilla Wed Apr 03, 2013 1:26 pm

negrito please, stop saying "barca fans" when there is only 1 guy in the forum thats arguing that it should be stopped

by Zealous Wed Apr 03, 2013 1:26 pm

Harmonica wrote:
halamadrid2 wrote:then why dont you quote this so called rule then you very educater just belw Einstein man
Laws of the game 2012-2013

The referee must adhere to the following procedure when dealing with injured players.

- play is allowed to continue until the ball is out of play if player is, in the opinion of the referee, only slightly injured
- play is stopped if, in the opinion of the referee, a player is seriously injured

- a severe injury has occured e.q. swallowed tongue, concussion, broken leg

Which the last two seemed plausible, and the last one actually was

Well there is where your entire argument falls apart rofl

by Zealous Wed Apr 03, 2013 1:28 pm

MaraVilla wrote:negrito please, stop saying "barca fans" when there is only 1 guy in the forum thats arguing that it should be stopped

I agree lets call a spade a spade. Jiopsi single-handedly turns this forum into the Guardian's "You are the Ref" after every Barca loss/draw. Proud

by halamadrid2 Wed Apr 03, 2013 2:02 pm

Harmonica wrote:
halamadrid2 wrote:then why dont you quote this so called rule then you very educater just belw Einstein man
Laws of the game 2012-2013

The referee must adhere to the following procedure when dealing with injured players.

- play is allowed to continue until the ball is out of play if player is, in the opinion of the referee, only slightly injured
- play is stopped if, in the opinion of the referee, a player is seriously injured

- a severe injury has occured e.q. swallowed tongue, concussion, broken leg

Which the last two seemed plausible, and the last one actually was

so do you know how silly you sound now??

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