Re: Worst refereeing performance?

by halamadrid2 Wed Apr 03, 2013 2:02 pm

Harmonica wrote:
halamadrid2 wrote:then why dont you quote this so called rule then you very educater just belw Einstein man
Laws of the game 2012-2013

The referee must adhere to the following procedure when dealing with injured players.

- play is allowed to continue until the ball is out of play if player is, in the opinion of the referee, only slightly injured
- play is stopped if, in the opinion of the referee, a player is seriously injured

- a severe injury has occured e.q. swallowed tongue, concussion, broken leg

Which the last two seemed plausible, and the last one actually was

so do you know how silly you sound now??

by Harmonica Wed Apr 03, 2013 2:09 pm

halamadrid2 wrote:
Harmonica wrote:
halamadrid2 wrote:then why dont you quote this so called rule then you very educater just belw Einstein man
Laws of the game 2012-2013

The referee must adhere to the following procedure when dealing with injured players.

- play is allowed to continue until the ball is out of play if player is, in the opinion of the referee, only slightly injured
- play is stopped if, in the opinion of the referee, a player is seriously injured

- a severe injury has occured e.q. swallowed tongue, concussion, broken leg

Which the last two seemed plausible, and the last one actually was

so do you know how silly you sound now??

That doesn't make any sense to you?

You are actually now proving my previous statement. Laughing

by halamadrid2 Wed Apr 03, 2013 2:16 pm

so are you going to use how long Marche will be out for to try and squeeze it into a dangerous injury category scratch

seriously???

by Harmonica Wed Apr 03, 2013 2:19 pm

No, it looked serious on the feed itself already, and the injury just confirms the ref should have stopped the game.

It's like talking to a brick wall this, how many times do I have to explain the same, perfectly logical argument?

by halamadrid2 Wed Apr 03, 2013 2:22 pm

you really are that stupid??

severe injury: swallowing tongue ( you know die if you don't know what that means), Concussion (damage to your head severe effect) or broken leg (you know like Larsson or Puyols twisted arm) now is that clear so far??

Marcheranos "injury" fits into any regular injury that Reff should ignore if the opposition team is attacking. I don't know if I can make it clearer than that

by Zealous Wed Apr 03, 2013 2:25 pm

It's based on the ref's opinion anyway. Let's be honest your first thought when you see a Barca player on the ground is not "Oh my he could be seriously injured" Laughing

by Harmonica Wed Apr 03, 2013 2:28 pm

halamadrid2 wrote:you really are that stupid??

severe injury: swallowing tongue ( you know die if you don't know what that means), Concussion (damage to your head severe effect) or broken leg (you know like Larsson or Puyols twisted arm) now is that clear so far??

Marcheranos "injury" fits into any regular injury that Reff should ignore if the opposition team is attacking. I don't know if I can make it clearer than that

You are being extremely thick, and ignorant about this.

Yes, I know swallowing your tongue isn't a blessing Rolling Eyes

, concussion: both players hold their head after the collision which seemed to include heads, broken leg: that's is what Mascherano suffered.

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It fits in the serious part of the rule in the rule book of the game.

by halamadrid2 Wed Apr 03, 2013 2:34 pm

omg he was bleeding take him to the surgery waa waa. This is football and thats common. A bilbao players was running around with his knee bloodied against us before the reff told him to see the meds. Just cuz its bleeding doesn't make it a severe injury alright.

if you had concussion you wouldn't roll around holding your head Rolling Eyes

Drogba vs United (?) thats concussion aka very serious that needs medical attention immediately

Again Marcheranos injury is a regular football injury and reffs rightfully don't see it as dangerous and life threatening injury hence play on

by Harmonica Wed Apr 03, 2013 2:38 pm

I'm just stating what happened, and what should have happened, based on the rules. Nothing more, nothing less. You're not making any sense with your analogies, as they aren't the same. If 1 thing is common out of 3, then the other 2 must be too? That's logical thinking of a uneducated teenager.

by Lex Wed Apr 03, 2013 2:39 pm

A thread on bad referees somehow evolves into a discussion on prissy Barca players :facepalm:

by halamadrid2 Wed Apr 03, 2013 2:50 pm

Harmonica wrote:I'm just stating what happened, and what should have happened, based on the rules. Nothing more, nothing less. You're not making any sense with your analogies, as they aren't the same. If 1 thing is common out of 3, then the other 2 must be too? That's logical thinking of a uneducated teenager.

what happened was two players go down like million other footballers around the world and the reff deemed it was acceptable for the play to continue rightfully stated in that post of yours. What else is hard to grasp on your part?? if you seriously include Marche in the category of severe injuries then bless you but then again you are probably one of those who will still stubbornl claim that Pepe kicked Alves anyways.

by common I mean it happened that game, it will probably happen next and its probably happening at this moment of time in my neighbourhood park. those severe injuries require immediate attention by experts and MARCHERANOS INJURY DOES NOT FCKNG FIT INTO THAT

by Harmonica Wed Apr 03, 2013 3:04 pm

halamadrid2 wrote:
Harmonica wrote:I'm just stating what happened, and what should have happened, based on the rules. Nothing more, nothing less. You're not making any sense with your analogies, as they aren't the same. If 1 thing is common out of 3, then the other 2 must be too? That's logical thinking of a uneducated teenager.

what happened was two players go down like million other footballers around the world and the reff deemed it was acceptable for the play to continue rightfully stated in that post of yours. What else is hard to grasp on your part?? if you seriously include Marche in the category of severe injuries then bless you but then again you are probably one of those who will still stubbornl claim that Pepe kicked Alves anyways.

by common I mean it happened that game, it will probably happen next and its probably happening at this moment of time in my neighbourhood park. those severe injuries require immediate attention by experts and MARCHERANOS INJURY DOES NOT FCKNG FIT INTO THAT

Pepe was conducting himself bad all game, and then he made an obvious red challenge, again, by the rules of the game.

Stopping the play even in attacking play happens all the time with injured players. Because the rules doesn't involve who has the ball and what the situation is, outside the injured players.

by Harmonica Thu Apr 04, 2013 12:59 pm

Harmonica wrote:Easily the worst officiated goal

1. Zlatan should have not played - Zlatan gets unprecedented 1 game off the ban from Platini, the Frenchie
2. Stark should have stopped the game with two Barca players with head injury - burt PSG gets a corner
3. Barca starting good looking counter attack - Stark gifts freekick to PSG from nothing
4. Zlatan scores from 1000 meters from offide.

Never seen such thing in my life. Why didn't they just start the game from 1-0?

Gourcuff (coach Lorient): "Offside goal, after crazy minute of referee mistakes, is incredible at this level. It changed the game."

by Harmonica Thu Apr 04, 2013 10:07 pm

http://www.goal.com/en-us/news/174/uefa-champions-league/2013/04/04/3878515/barcelona-sends-uefa-protest-letter-over-psg-referee?source=breakingnews&ICID=HP_BN_2

Barcelona has written a formal letter of complaint to governing body UEFA about the refereeing decisions made in the first leg of its Champions League quarterfinal tie against Paris Saint-Germain.

Tito Vilanova's side recorded a 2-2 draw against the Parisian side in France, but Barca has claimed referee Wolfgang Stark "did not know the rules of the game".

The Blaugrana were unhappy with what they saw as a series of mistakes from the official, including Stark's decision to allow play to continue when two Barca players were off the pitch injured.

Regulations state that play should stop in that instance, while the official also allowed Zlatan Ibrahimovic's first goal to stand when it appeared he was offside.

"Barcelona has sent a letter of protest to UEFA regarding mistakes made by the referee in the game against PSG," the Barca spokesman said.

"We just want to express our surprise that professional referees do not know the rules of the game," he added.

Blaugrana right back Dani Alves had earlier claimed that the official had been influenced by comments from Real Madrid boss Jose Mourinho.

by Harmonica Thu Apr 04, 2013 10:29 pm

Apparently there is also such rule that, if goal keeper, goal keeper and outfield player, or two players from same team collide, they don't have to start the game from sidelines.

This is just crazy now.

by Arquitecto Thu Apr 04, 2013 10:33 pm

Pathetic stuff from Barca to be honest. Quite disappointing to see a club of their stature resorting to rather petulant incidental complaints.

Not a good look for "Mes Que un Club"

by VivaStPauli Thu Apr 04, 2013 10:34 pm

Rather typical TBH. Crowd the ref during the game, crowd UEFA after the game.

by Casciavit Thu Apr 04, 2013 10:36 pm

VivaStPauli wrote:Rather typical TBH. Crowd the ref during the game, crowd UEFA after the game.

by Harmonica Thu Apr 04, 2013 10:39 pm

Doesn't look really good on Stark. 4 refereeing mistakes in a row, which caused a goal.

by Arquitecto Thu Apr 04, 2013 10:43 pm

Harmonica wrote:Doesn't look really good on Stark. 4 refereeing mistakes in a row, which causes a goal.

To be honest, Pierluigi, your opinions on this have been rendered as useless as a Goalkeeper without arms given that any questionable call (even if it was correct) is akin to a highway robbery for you.

It's a pathetic move by Barca. Sooner you realize that, the sooner you can come back from retirement back into refereeing.

by spanky Thu Apr 04, 2013 10:45 pm

ibrahimovic telling stark to hurry up. lul

by harhar11 Thu Apr 04, 2013 10:47 pm

If you can't see a 2m offside, then obviously technology is a must. So maybe complaining to them will do some good..

by CBarca Thu Apr 04, 2013 10:48 pm

I don't agree with the complaint. You win some you lose some.

However, when two players clash heads, or there is ANY head injury at all, the ref needs to whistle straight away. That's common sense. This has been continually emphasized by referee associations (my own personal knowledge is obviously with USSF) due to the increasing knowledge and awareness with the danger of concussions.

I was watching the Sunderland- Man U game the other day and the ref did this. Sunderland fans and players were upset because they were putting pressure on near the box, but in the end it's the right decision. Head injuries CANNOT be risked.

by Harmonica Thu Apr 04, 2013 10:50 pm

Arquitecto wrote:
Harmonica wrote:Doesn't look really good on Stark. 4 refereeing mistakes in a row, which causes a goal.

To be honest, Pierluigi, your opinions on this have been rendered as useless as a Goalkeeper without arms given that any questionable call (even if it was correct) is akin to a highway robbery for you.

It's a pathetic move by Barca. Sooner you realize that, the sooner you can come back from retirement back into refereeing.

It's not an opinion though, the rules obviously state, where the mistakes were made. But coming from silly boy like you, I can understand the confusion.

by Lex Thu Apr 04, 2013 10:50 pm

Arquitecto wrote:
Harmonica wrote:Doesn't look really good on Stark. 4 refereeing mistakes in a row, which causes a goal.

To be honest, Pierluigi

by harhar11 Thu Apr 04, 2013 10:51 pm

spanky wrote:

ibrahimovic telling stark to hurry up. lul

Ibra telling the ref to break the rules and then scores an offside goal. Interesting hmm

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