Keisuke Honda

Lets get one thing straight, if we get Honda then he would instantly slot in the team, or at least he should.

Key word being 'should'

Make of that what you will, be it Allegri or the demands of the higher ups

I'm hearing reports that Allegri wants to switch to a 4-2-3-1 once Pazzini comes back and we aquire Honda. Hence the acquisition of Matri to back up Pazzo. I read in the papers Allegri wants to sacrifice Poli and SES for this. I say WTF???? I like the idea, but not at the expense of SES. I'd bench Kaka and use him as a super sub if this was the case. In a 4-2-3-1 you need athletic wingers, not Kaka who is never going to track back.

Milantildeath wrote:I'm hearing reports that Allegri wants to switch to a 4-2-3-1 once Pazzini comes back and we aquire Honda. Hence the acquisition of Matri to back up Pazzo. I read in the papers Allegri wants to sacrifice Poli and SES for this. I say WTF???? I like the idea, but not at the expense of SES. I'd bench Kaka and use him as a super sub if this was the case. In a 4-2-3-1 you need athletic wingers, not Kaka who is never going to track back.

We can try stuff with Honda , but let's see if he comes first. That report is ridiculous btw . El Shaarawy is our most important player after Balotelli , there's no way he will be left out of the 11 , whatever the formation. If Allegri did that , he would lose his job immediately . He knows this and he would never really do this , even if he wanted to .

As for 4-2-3-1 .



Balotelli : Pazzini , Matri
Honda : Niang , Emanuelson
Kaka : Birsa , Saponara
El Shaarawy : Robinho , Emanuelson
Montolivo : Poli , Nocerino
De Jong : Muntari , Cristante

It could happen with Honda , seems interesting , though i don't know if Honda would like playing a bit wide . Balotelli isn't going to play anywhere else other than clear 9 , ffs what do they write.. . If we sign Honda , then this could be an option even though first i would like to see how Ses will do in the 4-3-1-2 , before anything. If it works , then all the other players must adapt near him . If that means Honda will have to play deeper or from the bench(lol), so be it .

If Ses can't do it , then a 4-2-3-1 or 4-3-2-1 would be best.

For me, Poli needs to be slotted into the team somehow. He in my opinion is one of our more important mids. I honestly feel Kaka should just be a super sub IF/Once Honda comes. We could have a really dynamic 11 in January. Kaka and Pazzini would be two very good options coming off the bench.

Kaka coming from the bench lmfao

Jesp buddy , throw in some Japanese inside intelligence in this thread. Are there any news out about Honda already ? Is he coming or not ?

Missed a sitter in the CL the other day.

Milantildeath wrote:For me, Poli needs to be slotted into the team somehow. He in my opinion is one of our more important mids. I honestly feel Kaka should just be a super sub IF/Once Honda comes. We could have a really dynamic 11 in January. Kaka and Pazzini would be two very good options coming off the bench.

you don't need to have Poli start games in the 4-2-3-1 , unless he is going to replace Montolivo at some point . There's enough , if not almost in abundance , offensive quality , creativity , counter attacking possibilities and as far as finishing chances and link up play goes , we should be killing if done properly . This will mean less possesion and more pressure on opponents , but simpler , more riskfull & direct ways to find the goal.

As far as defence goes , we will continue to have problems with the 4-2-3-1 simply because we don't press like we should , but we should be having fun up front. Now , with the 4-3-3 and Honda playing on the right wing , we should keep even more of the ball and probably have Poli play a lot more and still have the defensive structure intact..

We should probably continue with the 4-3-3 , because Matri managed to suck that much with any partner up front and in any case , the team defends & reacts a lot better with the 4-3-3 , mainly because of the width that offers a first line of pressure and cover.But truth be told , we are yet to see the 4-3-1-2 with Kaka behind Balotelli and El Shaarawy. These two up front can offer width and the defence doesn't change a bit. It's just that as Matri proved , we cannot replace any of them within the 4-3-1-2 were they are absent.. such a pity , but i most certain that it doesn't matter that much which formation will be , we need El Shaarawy and we need him closer to the goal . He is a second striker , despite the bs i've been reading so far. Just from his movements you can tell. Or by his finishing. That previously coaches have been utilising his speed and work rate doesn't alter the fact that El Shaarawy can be a true goal scoring machine , even more so on the counter.

El Shaarawy has big potential imho , he can be our next Shevchenko if we help him out. It can be done within the 4-3-3 as well , but Balotelli doesn't help him much there , he's too selfish in the chance of goal and he , albeit that's normal , expects stuff from others as far as priorities within our game go.

Having Kaka helping Ses out is a great prospect actually , i am pretty sure Kaka can help Ses out like he did with Sheva , they had a deadly combination up front and Inzaghi also ripped the benefits from their game . Balotelli could even offer more in terms of link up play , it could work but it seems like the chance has dissapeared for the time being , with El Shaarawy off and Kaka and Balotelli on and off.

In the 4-3-3 though... i am pretty sure it won't be happening that often , which is a fkn shame , even though it has other positives which are very important right now. Balotelli will be ripping all the goods from Kaka then , which is still more than fine , but Ses is going to have some obstacles to overcome when he comes back , that's if he wants to reclaim the level he reached last season. If it's for the best of the team though , i don't have a problem .

Anyway it remains to be seen what will happen with Kaka and Honda , if he does come. Obviously it would be optimal to have two great players rotating and being as fresh as possible , but if we want to be more agressive , we could use these two at the same time in a 4-2-3-1 and kick some ass .

To add a bit more , we have depth for a 4-2-3-1 , with Honda at least. Although it will be pretty much the same players , the additions of Rami and Honda , allow us to take that much more risks in games , in whatever ways you translate it , be it injuries , tiredness , different options from the bench , more link up play , more attacking opportunities and much more pressing e.t.c

It could work , though if we begin claiming results with the 4-3-3 again , i am not sure why should this happen.. In the 4-3-3 , albeit we are not so impressive up front , we have stability and safety , which for me is paramount since we know how to defend when we have to.

Forza wrote:Missed a sitter in the CL the other day.

saw it. Well i guess we should still have that man who does the sitters when Robinho is gone... yeah , why score those , these are so easy it's unfair :I'munoriginal::


in any case , i don't expect goals from Honda if he does come and i don't think anyone thinks of him as a goal scoring player , even though he can score alright. His vision and calm under tight spaces and his passing is very good , which is what we need. He can help us a lot against teams who defend in certain ways tbh and he would give us more options up front.

When Kaka came i had my doubts , but whenever i saw Honda after Kaka returned he really looked good , even though sometimes he goes off in games.. i really want him in Milan though. He was a player i never really liked or was much interested , but he has almost won me over. If he comes and Honda turns out good , he can help Milan very much .

Allegri: "Rami and Honda will join us in January, and they will strengthen the team."

M99 wrote:Allegri: "Rami and Honda will join us in January, and they will strengthen the

team."

LMAO. allegri should be very careful. honda is ok, but having seen him play for years now, he is alright his pass distribution is commendable, set pieces are good but he is not a player who makes difference week in week out. his pace is really bad. actually he is not a type of player that would make awful difference, so if allegri is thinking he is going to change the course of the season then he would be very wrong.

rami meanwhile should improve CB quality a bit.

Two really good signings.

Congrats guys, great signing.

ExtremistEnigma wrote:Two really good signings.

Honda, yes.
Rami, not so much.

why wasn't he signed in the summer so he could play the CL for you guys? (honda... oh and rami too I guess)

Because we're dirt cheap

because Honda was the hero Milan deserved , but not the one we needed for 5m back then.

So , we'll wait for him , because he can take it. Because he's not our AMF . He's a silent playmaker . A free kick specialist . A Rossonero Samurai .

HONDAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

Before Honda, the last Japanese player in a Milan shirt:



From Seisuke to Keisuke, we're up to great things B-)

Don't expect too much from Honda or Rami, they are far from the solutions to the problems we're facing now. Its a team/mentality issue. Sure they improve parts of our team, but not when everyone is having sub-par performances

I know, was just trying to joke a lil haha. Honda will definitely improve our build up play though, looking forward to his addition.

Wake me up in winter when Honda and Rami are here to save us from relegation and Allegri is fired.

Rickinch wrote:Before Honda, the last Japanese player in a Milan shirt:



From Seisuke to Keisuke, we're up to great things B-)

waaat

just googled it , looool . Seisuke the Milan captain

Its official, he's coming in January

Galliani: "Honda will travel to Japan now to get his work permit."

Galliani: "It's unlikely that Honda will play on Jan. 6 as he's a non-EU player. He will most likely get his debut vs. Sassuolo on Jan. 12."

Honda' website
http://en.keisuke-honda.com/

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AC Milan vice-president Adriano Galliani has confirmed that CSKA Moscow attacking midfielder Keisuke Honda will join the club on a free transfer on January 3.

The Japan international was initially expected to join the Rossoneri ahead of the 2013-14 campaign, but the Serie A side ultimately failed to reach an agreement with their Russian rivals over a transfer fee.

However, Galliani announced on Wednesday that the 27-year-old Honda will make his belated arrival at San Siro during the upcoming winter break.

"Honda will be a Milan player per January 3 and will wear the No.10 jersey," Galliani told reporters.

"We can finally end the secrecy. The deal can be made official now.

"I do not know whether he will already be available on January 6 [against Atalanta] due to all the paperwork that will have to be sorted."

Honda started his professional career with Nagoya Grampus and also wore the VVV jersey before joining CSKA in January 2010.