Re: Gareth Bale transfer saga

by sportsczy Mon Jul 29, 2013 10:54 pm

Yeah ok. Right on skippy.

by halamadrid2 Mon Jul 29, 2013 10:54 pm

Tomwin Lannister wrote:It is a conundrum.

But out of the 3, it'd have to be Isco who is benched at least until he can justify a starting spot over Mesut.

I just can't see Karim getting benched. And if he knew that was the plan then i'm sure he'd be desperate to leave himself. Imagine having your only competition sold and then told that you were going to be riding the bench with Ronaldo in your spot

do you now understand why the bale buy makes zilch sense Proud

Perez is trying to force players on Carlo and leave him with the dirty work of trying to keep everyone happy

I hope levvy tells us to do one so that we can call it a day and use the already complete squad that we have which lacks nothing. our buy were so smart and good this summer and they are trying to jeopardise tgat by buying this guy smfh

besides nobody can bench ozil. noone has that brain abd creativity tgat he offers certainly not isco. they can give him something to think about but not replace him altogether

by Tomwin Lannister Mon Jul 29, 2013 10:56 pm

Yeah I know why it's just stupid. But RM are so massively determined to get him. And if they do, he will be starting. Which is why i'm starting to think there's going to be 1 or 2 unhappy high profile players should Bale come.

by sportsczy Mon Jul 29, 2013 10:58 pm

Chelsea were never runner ups in EPL or FA in pre-Abra years: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Chelsea_F.C.

City: http://www.mcfc.co.uk/the-club/club-history
Football League Runners-up
1903-04, 1920-21, 1976-77
FA Cup Runners-up
1926, 1933, 1955, 1981

by halamadrid2 Mon Jul 29, 2013 11:00 pm

Tomwin Lannister wrote:Yeah I know why it's just stupid. But RM are so massively determined to get him. And if they do, he will be starting. Which is why i'm starting to think there's going to be 1 or 2 unhappy high profile players should Bale come.

if carlo goes with 4-2-3-1 then isco lw, ozil am, bale rw and Ronaldo cf. if he goes with 4-3-1-2 then ozil am and bale-ronaldo forward. if he goes with 4-2-2-2 then ozil and bale behind ronaldo and benzema

so its either going to be benz or isco benched in all systems. both of these will likely leave if they know they will be feeding on scraps then tou have jese holding the club at ransom in demand for playing time Proud

what a nightmare

by Arquitecto Mon Jul 29, 2013 11:00 pm

Paris & Monaco cannot be compared to City or other money clubs, especially Paris.

PSG was huge back then alongside Marseille & ASSE who had huge rivalries. If anything, the primadonna is Lyon and their fans who think too much of themselves after their success last decade.

@Father Tom: Your sig Proud

I miss uncle bubba. Been years since he died after he stepped on that bear-trap that lead him to land and blow up the moonshine reserve. I still have his banjo under my reed bed.

by sportsczy Mon Jul 29, 2013 11:02 pm

So updated. Again, this is pre-current owners.

PSG:
Championnat de France (2)
Champion en 1986, 1994
Vice-champion en 1989, 199341, 1996, 1997, 2000, 2004 et 2012.
Coupe de France ( Cool

Vainqueur en 1982, 1983, 1993, 1995, 1998, 2004, 2006 et 2010.
Finaliste en 1985, 2003, 2008.
1 Cl Semi in the 90s (forgot year)

Monaco
Championnat de France (7) :
Champion : 1961, 1963, 1978, 1982, 1988, 1997 et 2000.
Vice-champion : 1964, 1984, 1991, 1992 et 2003.
Coupe de France (5) :
Vainqueur : 1960, 1963, 1980, 1985 et 1991.
Finaliste38 : 1974, 1984, 1989 et 2010.
CL Finalist in 2004, Semis in 1994 and 1998
UEFA cup semis in 1997

City:
First Division/Premier League
Winners (2): 1936–37, 1967–68
Runner up (3): 1903-04, 1920-21, 1976-77
FA Cup
Winners (4): 1904, 1934, 1956, 1969
Runner up (4): 1926, 1933, 1955, 1981

Chelsea
First Division/Premier League
(1): 1954–55
Runner up: never
FA Cup
(3): 1969–70, 1996–97, 1999–2000
Runner up: never

by Tomwin Lannister Mon Jul 29, 2013 11:02 pm

Yep that's my thoughts exactly with Karim

Like I said, his only competition is gone so if he's not starting despite being the only striker (Don't know about youth, but you know what I mean) at Carlos disposal, and still can't get a game then he'll be off as quickly as he can.

Isco, well he'll probably be eager and patient in his first couple of seasons. But if it still looked similar after that, he'd be off too.

by sportsczy Mon Jul 29, 2013 11:03 pm

Or Bale gets injured per usual...

by The_Badger Mon Jul 29, 2013 11:04 pm

Arquitescu wrote:Paris & Monaco cannot be compared to City or other money clubs, especially Paris.

PSG was huge back then alongside Marseille & ASSE who had huge rivalries. If anything, the primadonna is Lyon and their fans who think too much of themselves after their success last decade.

PSG have a history of being every much as "great" as Man City. Let's not pretend otherwise. They're both vastly underachieving clubs who'd be consigned to mid-table mediocrity without money.

by halamadrid2 Mon Jul 29, 2013 11:04 pm

sportsczy wrote:Or Bale gets injured per usual...

100 million down the drain Proud

#saveuslevvy

by Gil Mon Jul 29, 2013 11:12 pm

The_Badger wrote:And football knowledge isn't yours.

Chelsea:
1 League title
3 FA Cups
2 League Cups
2 CWC

Man City:
2 League titles
4 FA Cups
2 League Cups
1 CWC

Now even with my A-Level Maths knowledge I know 8 and 9 aren't less than 5.

Sports is never wrong bro. :rollseyes: Proud

by jibers Mon Jul 29, 2013 11:17 pm

Gil wrote:
The_Badger wrote:And football knowledge isn't yours.

Chelsea:
1 League title
3 FA Cups
2 League Cups
2 CWC

Man City:
2 League titles
4 FA Cups
2 League Cups
1 CWC

Now even with my A-Level Maths knowledge I know 8 and 9 aren't less than 5.
Sports is never wrong bro. :rollseyes:

Sports

by sportsczy Mon Jul 29, 2013 11:18 pm

sportsczy wrote:So updated. Again, this is pre-current owners.

PSG:
Championnat de France (2)
Champion en 1986, 1994
Vice-champion en 1989, 199341, 1996, 1997, 2000, 2004 et 2012.
Coupe de France (
Vainqueur en 1982, 1983, 1993, 1995, 1998, 2004, 2006 et 2010.
Finaliste en 1985, 2003, 2008.
1 Cl Semi in the 90s (forgot year)

Monaco
Championnat de France (7) :
Champion : 1961, 1963, 1978, 1982, 1988, 1997 et 2000.
Vice-champion : 1964, 1984, 1991, 1992 et 2003.
Coupe de France (5) :
Vainqueur : 1960, 1963, 1980, 1985 et 1991.
Finaliste38 : 1974, 1984, 1989 et 2010.
CL Finalist in 2004, Semis in 1994 and 1998
UEFA cup semis in 1997

City:
First Division/Premier League
Winners (2): 1936–37, 1967–68
Runner up (3): 1903-04, 1920-21, 1976-77
FA Cup
Winners (4): 1904, 1934, 1956, 1969
Runner up (4): 1926, 1933, 1955, 1981

Chelsea
First Division/Premier League
(1): 1954–55
Runner up: never
FA Cup
(3): 1969–70, 1996–97, 1999–2000
Runner up: never

FYI. These are the real stats on the real competitions. Not mickey mouse ones.

by B-Mac Mon Jul 29, 2013 11:20 pm

none of those bloody mediocre clubs were deserving of the money, they just happened to be the lucky ones that the Oil tycoons pulled out of the hat full of names to buy.

equivalent to lucky sperm kids who are born into wealth...did nothing to achieve/earn it. :coffee:

by The_Badger Mon Jul 29, 2013 11:21 pm

B-Mac MUFC wrote:none of those bloody mediocre clubs were deserving of the money, they just happened to be the lucky ones that the Oil tycoons pulled out of the hat to buy.

equivalent to lucky sperm kids who are born into wealth...did nothing to achieve it.

True dat.

by RealGunner Mon Jul 29, 2013 11:22 pm

Back on topic guys

by Onyx Tue Jul 30, 2013 12:37 am

Is there a proper way to analyse Bale?

Bale scored 21 goals last season in the EPL, Suarez and RvP scored more.

In La Liga Negredo, Falcao, Soldado, Messi and Ronaldo scored more than Bale.

So I'm not sure why we want to pay €100m for Bale.

However the argument here could be he's younger, supposedly a good dribbler, good at long shots and quick. But I don't think that makes him worth €100m.

by Firenze Tue Jul 30, 2013 12:43 am

21 epl goals are worth 42 la liga goals tbh :coffee:

by Lex Tue Jul 30, 2013 12:47 am

Hitting and hoping = good at long shots Laughing

by Le Samourai Tue Jul 30, 2013 12:49 am

Firenze wrote:21 epl goals are worth 42 la liga goals tbh

Tell that to Michu :coffee:

by MadridiCanada Tue Jul 30, 2013 12:52 am

Lex wrote:Hitting and hoping = good at long shots

tsk tsk tsk

by Arquitecto Tue Jul 30, 2013 12:55 am

Yohan Modric wrote:Is there a proper way to analyse Bale?

Bale scored 21 goals last season in the EPL, Suarez and RvP scored more.

In La Liga Negredo, Falcao, Soldado, Messi and Ronaldo scored more than Bale.

So I'm not sure why we want to pay €100m for Bale.

However the argument here could be he's younger, supposedly a good dribbler, good at long shots and quick. But I don't think that makes him worth €100m.

He's an average dribbler. Little close control & use of only one foot while his world class athleticism is the prime propellant in going past his markers.

His strengths lie in his long shots, ability to quickly go down the flank, has clutch ability as shown from last year & has tactically improved, despite his obvious limitations.

Basically is the Welsh Kevin Constant.

by McAgger Tue Jul 30, 2013 12:56 am

Is there a stat showing how many long range shots Bale takes and his conversion rate?

by Gil Tue Jul 30, 2013 12:57 am

Lol at the detractors. We're going to punish him for scoring from long range now? Wow

And when you're scoring at the phenomenal volume he does from distance it isn't just "luck" or "hit and hope". Actual skill is involved.

by REWB Tue Jul 30, 2013 12:57 am

im going to enjoy calling him Gareth Faile, when he goes to rm. Very Happy

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