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Post by Onyx Fri Aug 09, 2013 10:08 am

I wonder if Perez asked Ancelotti whether he wanted Bale or not.

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Post by Mr Nick09 Fri Aug 09, 2013 10:18 am

Ancelotti has known we would go after Bale since december lol. the squad could compete as is, but if he arrives he is a plus. That's why we sorted out all the other signings first.
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Post by Red Alert Fri Aug 09, 2013 12:16 pm

Signed Torres without his consent.
Signing Bale without his consent.

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Post by Onyx Sat Aug 10, 2013 12:17 pm

Bale not in Spurs squad to face Espanyol

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Post by EL Patron Sat Aug 10, 2013 12:30 pm

again, I wonder what excuse AVB uses this time Laughing 
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Post by Onyx Sun Aug 11, 2013 7:15 am

Ancelotti:


"I'm happy with what I have, why talk about Bale if Morata and Jese played so well today," he told reporters. "I'm very happy about them, they're very young but they have great ability. The team was tired but the game had been very good."

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Post by Onyx Thu Aug 15, 2013 4:24 pm

Bale's agent apparently signed a private 6 year contract on behalf of Bale last December, to join Real Madrid, according to El Confidencial.

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Post by B-Mac Thu Aug 15, 2013 5:02 pm

lol that sounds made up^^
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Post by Mr Nick09 Thu Aug 15, 2013 5:31 pm

Given the source, i would assume that to be true. Not that he "signed" anything (that's MT's bad translation im sure), but agreeing terms in advance of a move is not surprising. Everyone and their mom in Spain know that Bale will be on a 6 year 9-10 millions euros contract.
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Post by Red Alert Thu Aug 15, 2013 9:50 pm

Just pay 100m for Suarez and he'll "bale" you guys out.
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Post by lszanto Thu Aug 15, 2013 9:55 pm

Don't get why they wouldn't go for Suarez over Bale. He's better and half the price.
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Post by donttreadonred Thu Aug 15, 2013 10:13 pm

lszanto wrote:Don't get why they wouldn't go for Suarez over Bale. He's better and half the price.
Marketability...

Think about it. Bale plays in one of Ronaldo, Ozil, or Isco's (assuming he plays on the right) positions. They don't really need him to come in. They have plenty of quality in those three areas. Bale certainly has the potential to be one of the best in the world at his position. However, so do each of those three. Suarez, on the other hand, plays in a position in which they are short-handed and could stand to upgrade.

The difference between the two players is their public image/persona. Bale is viewed as the up-and-coming superstar: clean-cut, exciting to watch, and doesn't attract much controversy. Suarez has spent the better part of the last two years playing the pantomime villain: complaining to refs, winding up the opposition, and developing a taste for Serbian CBs. Real has spent the last few years playing the "bad guy" to an extent under Mourinho's prickly public persona (the eye-gauging can't have helped...). They will want to avoid furthering that impresion. Bale can help them do that, as well as continue the Galactico's aura that surrounds the club. Suarez may help them win on the pitch, but that is it.
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Post by Mr Nick09 Thu Aug 15, 2013 11:16 pm

you guys realize we dont play a 4231 anymore, it's dead and buried. Bale or not bale, we wont play that formation anymore
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Post by lszanto Thu Aug 15, 2013 11:39 pm

donttreadonred wrote:
lszanto wrote:Don't get why they wouldn't go for Suarez over Bale. He's better and half the price.
Marketability...

Think about it. Bale plays in one of Ronaldo, Ozil, or Isco's (assuming he plays on the right) positions. They don't really need him to come in. They have plenty of quality in those three areas. Bale certainly has the potential to be one of the best in the world at his position. However, so do each of those three. Suarez, on the other hand, plays in a position in which they are short-handed and could stand to upgrade.

The difference between the two players is their public image/persona. Bale is viewed as the up-and-coming superstar: clean-cut, exciting to watch, and doesn't attract much controversy. Suarez has spent the better part of the last two years playing the pantomime villain: complaining to refs, winding up the opposition, and developing a taste for Serbian CBs. Real has spent the last few years playing the "bad guy" to an extent under Mourinho's prickly public persona (the eye-gauging can't have helped...). They will want to avoid furthering that impresion. Bale can help them do that, as well as continue the Galactico's aura that surrounds the club. Suarez may help them win on the pitch, but that is it.
Yeah fair. But in reality the reason for wanting marketable players is $$$. Bale isn't 50m more marketable than Suarez.
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Post by Mr Nick09 Thu Aug 15, 2013 11:49 pm

Bale definitely does have better image than Suarez tho, seems like perez doesnt want to touch him with a ten foot pole. It's easier to sell madridismo values through a boy like Bale, compared to Suarez. Besides, they must be convinced that Bale is the real deal and will turn into a world beater, right or wrong that's perez, and he is wrong most of the time lol
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Post by Lex Fri Aug 16, 2013 12:17 am

Bale has the play acting down pat, so he'll easily slide in to Madrid's squad like a hand in a glove
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Post by chad4401 Fri Aug 16, 2013 12:32 am

As long as no one is expecting cr7 like performances week in and out this season he should be ok, too bad his price won't allow that No
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Post by lszanto Fri Aug 16, 2013 12:44 am

chad4401 wrote:As long as no one is expecting cr7 like performances week in and out this season he should be ok, too bad his price won't allow that No
Well he's performed at that level for about half a season so far. No reason to think he can't do it week in week out for one of the biggest clubs in the world!
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Post by Crimson Fri Aug 16, 2013 12:45 am

lszanto wrote:Don't get why they wouldn't go for Suarez over Bale. He's better and half the price.
LMFAO

One of the funniest jokes I have heard in a while, good one lmao
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Post by Red Alert Fri Aug 16, 2013 1:40 am

You've always been a manc... lol
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Post by McAgger Fri Aug 16, 2013 1:45 am

Crims you're like a perfect stereotype for a deluded Madrid fan going by that statement. Getting excited for a Galactico signing that Madrid don't even need to the point where it clouds your judgement about the players ability.
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Post by Red Alert Fri Aug 16, 2013 1:49 am

He supports United in England and has always hated Liverpool lol.
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Post by Onyx Fri Aug 16, 2013 7:56 am

Madrid’s huge debts have led many to question whether the move -- which the Daily Telegraph believes would cost £200 million in transfer fee and wages -- makes sense.

Pundits, meanwhile, have wondered where the Wales international would fit in, given the excellent pre-season form of Isco, and the success of the possession-based midfield style new coach Carlo Ancelotti has been using.

Marca remains convinced the deal will go through, announcing on its cover on Friday morning that Bale had three possible teams for the coming season: Madrid, Madrid or Madrid. However, rival newspaper AS featured a piece from editor Alfredo Relano expressing his growing concerns about the transfer.

"As the days pass, it seems Bale's signing for Madrid comes closer and closer in an inexorable way, and each day I hear more doubts,” Relano wrote. “Doubts about the price, above all, and for the little need to make the signing."


Similar doubts appear to have surfaced among both players and staff at the Bernabeu, too, particularly given the likely €100 million-plus fee, as well as a reported €9 million-a-year net salary, which would make him the third best-paid player at the club, behind only Cristiano Ronaldo and Kaka.

AS believes other high-profile players at the club, including Karim Benzema, Mesut Ozil and Angel Di Maria, are not impressed at the prospect of dropping below Bale on the salary scale, and are wary of the possible threat to their starting spots in the side.

Ronaldo is also said to be keen to retain his status as the world’s most expensive player, while the Portugal international apparently asked senior club figures not to sell Di Maria.

Paris Saint-Germain and Manchester United are reportedly among the clubs interested in Di Maria, with Perez said to be keen to bring in around €30 million for the Argentina winger to help balance the books.

Marcelo was the latest Madrid player to be asked about Bale’s potential arrival, but the Brazil international gave little backing to the pursuit.

"The president and the coach are the ones who must be in agreement to sign him,” Marcelo said in AS. “I do not make the decisions."

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Post by Crimson Sat Aug 17, 2013 6:41 am

McAgger wrote:Crims you're like a perfect stereotype for a deluded Madrid fan going by that statement. Getting excited for a Galactico signing that Madrid don't even need to the point where it clouds your judgement about the players ability.
We only have one proven match winner atm, that being Ronaldo. Benzema's work ethic and attitude have been terrible for a while now and he cannot be relied apon for anything. While very talented, he simply does not have what it takes to go that extra step (see being booed at the last French international he played). Though he is young and I do hope and pray he won't turn out to be the next Cassano, I am sceptical at best.

Bale not needed? What happens if Ronaldo gets injured who is going to step up for this team. Realistically we cannot rely on Morata or Jese no matter how talented, they are still young and very inexperienced and will take time to adapt.

Having another proven match winner in the team, especially one as versatile and complete as Bale would improve this team ten fold and will help us have the edge required to go that one step further and win our team titles.
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Post by sportsczy Sat Aug 17, 2013 6:58 am

He wasn't booed at the last French international. The game was in Belgium with a very pro Belgian crowd obviously... they booed every French player who came on and came off. Opposition fans do that. In fact, the louder they boo, the better you probably played as an opponent. There's no mention of any special boo other than by AS lol. Nothing in France at all.

We'll see how much of a game winner Bale is when he takes 3-4 shots total in a game with no free kicks as opposed to 7-10.

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Post by Crimson Sat Aug 17, 2013 7:03 am

sportsczy wrote:He wasn't booed at the last French international.  The game was in Belgium with a very pro Belgian crowd obviously...  they booed every French player who came on and came off.  Opposition fans do that.  In fact, the louder they boo, the better you probably played as an opponent.  There's no mention of any special boo other than by AS lol.  Nothing in France at all.

We'll see how much of a game winner Bale is when he takes 3-4 shots total in a game with no free kicks as opposed to 7-10.

Bale only averaged 5 shots a game not 7 to 10. And I'm pretty sure Bale will still take all the freekicks on the right side of the pitch regardless.

The question is would you trust Benzema to win you games? Because atm I wouldn't, I'm hoping he changes my mind, but I just don't see it at this point. It's not a matter of him getting more of the ball either because he gets plenty of it for France, he just seems to not convert all his talent onto the pitch. He has his moments, but I would see Bale as a huge upgrade over him.

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