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Post by free_cat Sun Dec 08, 2013 7:35 pm

DuringTheWar wrote:
free_cat wrote:
DuringTheWar wrote:Until he actually gets to the point where he is capable of starting games i would take his stats with a large pinch of salt
He is more than capable, lol.
Seems Martinez doesn't think so. 3 starts out of 13, clearly still "just" a supersub
Martinez is easing him in and wants him to adapt and learn the language. Off course he can start games and will play much more the second half of the season.

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Post by Winter is Coming Sun Dec 08, 2013 7:39 pm

One also has to consider he's not going to stay at Everton for long. Martinez doesn't want to make him a huge part of the team and then lose him.
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Post by Kick Sun Dec 08, 2013 10:00 pm

Take half a year to ease a player in...when that player is on a season long loan :bow:

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Post by free_cat Sun Dec 08, 2013 10:04 pm

Kick wrote:Take half a year to ease a player in...when that player is on a season long loan :bow:

Genius!
The deal is extendable for two seasons if Barça doesn't recall Deulofeu. Unless we have a big revamp next summer, most likely he will stay there as we are stacked and we are probably buying a striker soon.

Forwards on payroll next summer: Messi, Neymar, Pedro, Alexis, Tello, Cuenca, Afellay, Cesc, Bojan.
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Post by Kick Sun Dec 08, 2013 10:21 pm

So it is a one year loan which Barca can choose to make two years. I am sure Everton consider that a one year loan then.

My original point stands.
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Post by The Franchise Sun Dec 08, 2013 10:23 pm

I will take back my complaints about Everton not using him before, clearly they had a plan with him I did not consider and I was wrong to complain.

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Post by free_cat Sun Dec 08, 2013 10:24 pm

Kick wrote:So it is a one year loan which Barca can choose to make two years. I am sure Everton consider that a one year loan then.

My original point stands.
Well, considering how well is Everton and Deulofeu doing, probably Martinez is really genius and you are just wrong.
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Post by Kick Sun Dec 08, 2013 10:26 pm

Or perhaps he isn't being 'eased' in and instead is improving faster than Martinez thought.

That would make you wrong, my friend. Wink
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Post by free_cat Sun Dec 08, 2013 10:30 pm

Kick wrote:Or perhaps he isn't being 'eased' in and instead is improving faster than Martinez thought.

That would make you wrong, my friend. Wink
All those who watched Deulofeu many times haven't seen much improvement in his game, he is as good as he was last season. He seems to be running a little bit more, but he also strolls around a lot when he is tired or loses focus, and keeps waving his arms when he doesn't receive a pass. Not a big change so far.


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Post by The Franchise Sun Dec 08, 2013 10:30 pm

"We relied a little bit on the quality of a young man with incredible talent like Gerard Deulofeu and I think that goal was the reward we needed for the performance," said Everton's manager.

"Certain players have that raw talent that they can create something out of nothing, or they've got that special touch, and he's got incredible pace – I've never seen a player that is quicker than he is.

"He's come along way. When he arrived in February I thought it would take until February for him to get used to his role and the physicality of the league, but he's surprised me, and he's ready now.

"There is an opportunity [to keep Deulofeu], we've got an agreement that we can extend his contract by an extra year, as long as the parent club don't need the player."


Maybe this helps? Courtesy of Danyjr.
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Sun Dec 08, 2013 10:32 pm

The Franchise wrote:I will take back my complaints about Everton not using him before, clearly they had a plan with him I did not consider and I was wrong to complain.

Not surprised by this at all, if there's one thing Martinez is fantastic at it is developing young talent.

He's doing the same with Barkley, taking him out when necessary etc etc.
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Post by The Franchise Sun Dec 08, 2013 10:35 pm

Yeah, I was quite annoyed they only used him in cup games against teams which are a lower level than Segunda, so if that continued for a while the loan would of been a big waste.

But clearly Martinez wanted to see some improvements with his physical level and I assume his willingness to work hard defensively.

He wont be able to stop him complaining when people give him bad passes though Laughing

Certain players cant help themselves no matter how old they get.
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Post by DuringTheWar Sun Dec 08, 2013 10:37 pm

The Franchise wrote: I've never seen a player that is quicker than he is.

he aint that fast
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Sun Dec 08, 2013 10:38 pm

Martinez is clearly trying to keep his confidence up there.

A lot of managers say things like that.
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Post by urbaNRoots Sun Dec 08, 2013 10:39 pm

He took the goal very well. Barça definitely did a good job sending him over there.
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Post by DuringTheWar Sun Dec 08, 2013 10:39 pm

I though his ego needs to be kept down?
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Post by The Franchise Sun Dec 08, 2013 10:40 pm

Quick enough for Gibbs to get owned Laughing
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Post by DuringTheWar Sun Dec 08, 2013 10:45 pm

gibbs was outnumbered and got confused, he didn't know what to do
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Post by Arquitecto Mon Dec 09, 2013 2:48 am

Gibbs didn't need nostradamus to predict that Deulofeu would skip to his right for the shot. Shoddy defending by the least.

Glad Deulofeu seems to be finding his mark as España needs more talent in the wide areas.

Excellent tactical substitution by Martinez to exploit Arsenal's fatigue.
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Post by Pip Mon Dec 09, 2013 4:19 am

He is a special player. Every time he comes on, Everton become even more threatening in attack. Fantastic goal yesterday, it took a very nice technique to strike that ball so well.

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Post by Vibe Mon Dec 09, 2013 7:47 pm

Seems like he's finding his feet.

Just don't understand why would Barca stupidify him in EPL.
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Post by Gil Mon Dec 09, 2013 7:57 pm

Can people stop hyping this guy up? He's warming the bench for a reason.



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Post by jibers Mon Dec 09, 2013 7:58 pm

Gil wrote:Can people stop hyping this guy up? He's warming the bench for a reason.

Same reason as Mata?
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Post by Gil Mon Dec 09, 2013 8:00 pm

jibers wrote:
Gil wrote:Can people stop hyping this guy up? He's warming the bench for a reason.

Same reason as Mata?

Deulofeu is a CL winner?
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Mon Dec 09, 2013 8:13 pm

He's on the bench because he's a 19 year old kid adapting to a new country ffs Laughing

Besides he's been great everytime he's played, i wonder how long it will take Gil to eat the humble pie this time.

I'm still waiting for the Zaha slice to be consumed Laughing
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Post by Gil Mon Dec 09, 2013 8:31 pm

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:He's on the bench because he's a 19 year old kid adapting to a new country ffs Laughing

Besides he's been great everytime he's played, i wonder how long it will take Gil to eat the humble pie this time.

I'm still waiting for the Zaha slice to be consumed Laughing

Lukaku had no time "adapting to a new country" at 19. He's a nice option to bring off the bench to "change games" but that's about it. No sane coach will rely on a low IQ player like this guy. Even the goal was somewhat fortunate, on another day Gibbs would have ignored Coleman's run and just closed the wanker down.

Anyway, Everton is his level his career will follow the path of SWP, Pedro Leon, Reyes, Harry Kewell etc.
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