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Post by Harmonica Thu Jan 30, 2014 2:32 pm

“Good old Jose, moaning again. He can’t take it can he. He can’t take it because we’ve out-tacticed him, out-witted him. He just can’t cope. It’s brilliant when you get a result against him! I love Chelsea moaning.”

- Sam Allardyce

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Post by EL Patron Thu Jan 30, 2014 3:05 pm

Fat sam talking as if he actually got the 3 points  rofl 
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Post by the xcx Thu Jan 30, 2014 3:14 pm

Lord Spencer wrote:
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Lord Spencer wrote:The hypocrisy level in Mou's statement is over 9000.

Not only is this "19th Century" tactic a regular tactic Mou employes, but it was also a characteristic of Chelsae's 2011 CL win. It was also the case for most of Mou's matches against Barca with RM. As I stated before, I respect a massive defensive effort, and I said so about Chelsae's 2011 CL win, Inter's great match against Barca with 10 men, and even Greece's 2004 Euro triumph.

However, when someone has the audacity of slamming another team for playing very similar tactics to his own is just plain hilarious. It screams of a privileged attitude rofl
It was just one game, might need to recheck your sources.

Yes it was Laughing

With all due respect, you are delusional if you think otherwise.
(not saying it is a wrong tactic, just saying that it is hypocritical to say it is a wrong tactic when you use it so much)
I seriously dont need a lecture, especially from an AC milan fan point of view. Do they even show football in Middle East? Laughing Laughing
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Post by sree999 Thu Jan 30, 2014 3:48 pm

MOUTHrinhore being a mouth whore . tats all he is

He is media attention whore who plays stokish hoofball football .

translator after this tackles thinks messi dived MOTHER f**ker



del horno should have been off on the first tackle itself



http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/funny_old_game/4743162.stm

A year after criticising referee Anders Frisk's display in the 2-1 Champions League defeat in Barcelona, Mourinho is at it again.

This time, the Portuguese finger of fate is pointing squarely in the direction of Barcelona's teenage sensation Lionel Messi.

The Argentine was the victim of two rash challenges from Asier del Horno, the second of which prompted a straight red card from referee Terje Hauge.

True, it probably should have been a yellow card, but Del Horno was very lucky to escape a caution for an earlier knee-high tackle on Messi.

Sure, Messi was cute enough to make the most of Del Horno's recklessness with a few well-timed rolls in front of the officials, but the damage was already done.

Not so, says the special one: "How do you say cheating in Catalan?"

Classic Mourinho. But this time, the Portuguese should be embarrassed by his comments. After all, what goes around, more often than not comes around.

It is only 17 days since English football widely condemned Blues winger Arjen Robben for theatrically diving to get Liverpool keeper Jose Reina sent off in a key Premiership encounter.

There is little doubt that Robben's acting was greater than Messi's, yet Mourinho accused Reds boss Rafael Benitez of sour grapes for bringing up the incident in his post-match analysis.

Maybe, in the cold light of day, Mourinho will be able to reflect on a courageous performance from his players instead of deflect attention on to an 18-year-old.

It is certainly a display that gives Chelsea plenty of hope for the second leg in Spain.

Few teams would still be in the contest after playing for over 50 minutes with 10 men against a wonderfully talented Barca side - let alone have the temerity to take the lead while a man down.

Referee Terje Hauge shows Aiser del Horno a straight red card
...and is sent off by Terje Hauge

Perhaps Mourinho's frustration is because he can see the Champions League slipping away for the second time in a row.

Last year, he had the assistant referee to blame for allowing Liverpool's goal to stand when Chelsea claimed it had not crossed the line.

This year, he has cast Messi as the villain of the piece and the architect of their downfall should Chelsea fail to overturn their deficit in Spain.

But there are so many positive aspects of Chelsea's performance at Stamford Bridge for Mourinho to believe his team can still go through.

They created a host of good chances with 10 men - including a gilt-edged one for Didier Drogba with the score at 1-1 - and until the last 20 minutes matched their illustrious opponents in every department.

So why does there always have to be an excuse for losing a game like that?

It is a shame that the culture in football deems it a necessary rather than an occasional after-match reaction.

Are the stakes too high and the rewards too great for managers to be gracious in defeat anymore?

After the pre-match pantomine surrounding that awful pitch, it is a pity that, once again, people are talking about events outside the game.

They should be disecting another wonderful game of football between two of the best teams in the world.

We asked YOU for your comments about the game and this article. Thank-you for all your responses, here is a selection of your views.

I think that your criticism of Mourihno's reaction to Messi's theatrical acting is harsh. If you were at Stamford Bridge, you should have probably seen that Messi first looked up at who was looking and started with rolling on the floor.
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I was there. Del Horno should have gone off with the first foul never mind the second. Hats off to Chelsea for a making such a great effort with 10 men, if they play like that with 11 in the Nou Camp then we are in for a hell of a second leg.
George Christou, London

Was Jonathan Stevenson watching a different game? Robben was the architect of the incident between Del Horno and Messi and Robben got away with it. If you watch the replay carefully you will see Robben try to remove Messi's legs as he tricked him near the corner flag - that was just after shoulder barging him as he ran down the line! Robben needs to take a rain check, on how he conducts himself on the pitch.
Alan, Isle of Man

The losing one is now playing the crying game when cheating failed. Now, he is one step behind and will have to change his credit card for a debit card.
Mike McGrath, Florida, USA

Chelsea are a great team...sadly they are not the greatest team in Europe. Mourinho should learn to accept that and concentrate on improving the area of the team that is lacking...the forwards!
Mark Saxby, Dorset

There was a two-footed tackle on Robben in the second-half. This went totally unpunished by the Norwegian referee, there appears to be no consistency by the officials.
David Lewis, Essex

Mourinho needs to accept the fact that Barcelona on the day were just too skilful and mobile for his side. When his team lost at Stamford Bridge last year despite all that had been said in the first leg, Barca boss Frank Rijkaard was still gracious in defeat. Mr Mourinho should learn from that. Perhaps watering the pitch to that level was not such a good idea after all, it backfired big time.
Albert Mushai, Johannesburg, South Africa

Mourinho has got double standards calling young Messi a cheat. I was in Seville watching the Uefa Cup final with Celtic when he was manager of Porto and if you look closely at that game and the theatrics of their keeper in particular, let alone the diving and time wasting, you will quickly learn that he wants to win at all costs. It was a great game and Barcelona taught them a lesson on how to play against 10 men. Ronaldinho is pure class.
Ian Crossan, Newbury

If the ref was wrong, Mourinho has every right to complain. If the ref was right, then Mourinho should stay quiet. I thought the referee was awful and the standards of referees in this competition needs looking at.
Daren Robinson, Worthing, West Sussex

I can't help thinking that Chelsea reaped what they have sown. Although the referee was poor, it was clear that Del Horno could not cope with Messi, and in my view he made no attempt to play the ball but jumped straight into the man. And if you want to talk about theatrics, Del Horno's sudden heart attack and eye rolling was pathetic. Do they have special lessons on amateur dramatics and diving at Chelsea?
Barry Hamilton, Romford, Essex

I don't know what Catalan for "cheating" is, but I'd be interested to discover the Portuguese for "hypocrite". I presume I'd have to ask someone other than Mr Mourinho.
Rhodri Evans, Nottingham

I am a Chelsea season ticket holder and a great admirer of Mourinho. However, l'm getting more than a little embarrassed at some of his comments. We do expect a more professional reaction from the coach and mentor of our team. Likewise, his comments about stating the day on which we are going to win the Premiership was also foolhardy and should be left for us pundits in the pub. Most of Jose's quotes are both amusing and headline grabbing, tinged with a good deal of wisdom. He should leave the sour grapes to the paying fans.
David Bantick, Buntingford, Herts.

I thought it was a straight red for two reasons: 1) because Del Horno lauched a nasty tackle minutes before and (2) he not only threw himself at Messi he also had his foot too high.
Jurelmo, Manchester

Pot Kettle Black is all I'm saying Mr Mourinho. Forgotten what Robben did against Liverpool have we...
Joshua, London

It really is getting to the point of boring and pathetic. The triumverate of Wenger, Ferguson and Mourinho, blaming everyone and everything except there own team's inability to win, There's no good grace and no sportmanship. The stakes have got so high financially that the managers are under too much pressure to lose.
Steve Plucknett, Fremantle W.Australia

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/europe/4744098.stm



that is MOUTHrinho football for all of MOUTHrinWHORE fans

if you wanna watch football watch  :bow: eto- :bow:  :bow: ronaldhino- :bow: messi trio in that match

ronaldhino ripping  :bow:  makele  :bow: terry
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Post by the xcx Thu Jan 30, 2014 3:55 pm

Not surprised this thread is not locked yet.
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Post by sree999 Thu Jan 30, 2014 4:22 pm

why should this thread be locked ? jus because some mouthrinho fan didn't like it . criticism of mouthrinho's double standard was well highlighted by the above post .

his team is filled with diving divas and he criticizes messi(who didnt dive) why ?

there is no trolling here

only exposing the fake bunker football coach who happens to be a Hippocrat winner.


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Post by BeautifulGame Thu Jan 30, 2014 4:32 pm

Yeah Mourinho diverting attention from his players and team after a poor performance. What a shocker seriously  rofl 

Its amazing how everyone again and again fall for this shit. The guy is a genius when it comes to manipulating media
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Post by Gil Thu Jan 30, 2014 4:53 pm

How do people continuously fall for this mans obvious baiting? He's been saying the same outlandish shit after every bad result for over a decade now yet he still winds people up like always.

Anyway, Mourinho was the one who invented the phrase "parking the bus".
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Post by Doc Thu Jan 30, 2014 5:16 pm

Mourinho certainly was the first to coin the phrase in English but from what I've been watching all these years, the phrase itself has been used in Spain and Portugal for a while now.

Anyway, Mourinho the master baiter (hehe) clearly got certain posters here hook, line and sinker...
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Post by Gil Thu Jan 30, 2014 5:28 pm

Doc wrote:Mourinho certainly was the first to coin the phrase in English but from what I've been watching all these years, the phrase itself has been used in Spain and Portugal for a while now.

Anyway, Mourinho the master baiter (hehe) clearly got certain posters here hook, line and sinker...

Look at these clowns posting essays. Laughing
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Post by harhar11 Thu Jan 30, 2014 5:31 pm

In Spain, I don't think that the phrase was that common before Mou said it. Regarding Portugal, I do belive that when Mou first used that phrase, he did say that he was "borrowing" the phrase from Portugal.

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Post by Pedram Thu Jan 30, 2014 5:31 pm

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Post by Gil Thu Jan 30, 2014 5:32 pm

A couple of things about Mourinho. In no way was the Arsenal performance a defensive one. We had more shots & shots on target than Arsenal ffs.

Conceding possession and hitting on the counter doesn't mean you're playing defensively.
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Post by boyzis Thu Jan 30, 2014 5:35 pm

Gil wrote:A couple of things about Mourinho. In no way was the Arsenal performance a defensive one. We had more shots & shots on target than Arsenal ffs.

Conceding possession and hitting on the counter doesn't mean you're playing defensively.

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Why does he have to come out and say stuff like this?

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Post by sree999 Thu Jan 30, 2014 5:41 pm

yea he is on troll mode . but its great to see that this scum has so many fans here .

hoping this draw will cost the special clown the title this year . Twisted Evil
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Post by Blue Barrett Thu Jan 30, 2014 5:59 pm

My God, Jimmies have been rustled rofl
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Post by boyzis Thu Jan 30, 2014 6:15 pm

Mou comment was like a school boy who failed his exams and is trying to hide the result from his parents.

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Post by the xcx Thu Jan 30, 2014 6:25 pm

La Liga fan boys Laughing
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Post by I Have Mono Thu Jan 30, 2014 9:25 pm

What people refuse to acknowledge is Mourinho took all the pressure off of his players and put it on himself. Chelsea are in the title race and the players dont need to be hammered by the media for the 0-0 draw vs a relegation candidate, instead Mourinho put it on himself.

There is a reason why he is universally hated by fans, yet loved by a majority of his players, and if you read the way his players talk a out him its little things like this which is why his players are willing to fight for him.

Mourinho isnt one of the best managers because of the tactics he uses ala Wenger, Guardiola, Pellegrini, he is one of the best managers because of his player willingness to fight and run themselves into the ground for him. Once he establishes that its relatively simple to bunker in during a 2 leg tie and come out successful because his players are never going to quit.

Just look at this thread, who is talking about the 0-0 draw ? Everyone is talking about Mourinho

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Post by Lex Thu Jan 30, 2014 9:40 pm

Have you read the papers? Not only did the team get hammered, Mou got destroyed too
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Post by the xcx Thu Jan 30, 2014 9:42 pm

Big Sam celebrating as if he won or something. You're still getting relegated.
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Post by Lord Spencer Fri Jan 31, 2014 2:17 am

the xcx wrote:
Lord Spencer wrote:
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It was just one game, might need to recheck your sources.

Yes it was Laughing

With all due respect, you are delusional if you think otherwise.
(not saying it is a wrong tactic, just saying that it is hypocritical to say it is a wrong tactic when you use it so much)
I seriously dont need a lecture, especially from an AC milan fan point of view. Do they even show football in Middle East? LaughingLaughing

Of course they do, that is why Qatar and UAE millionaires buy clubs such as City for fun.

I didn't attempt to lecture you anyways, I doubt you have the intelligence to understand either ways Laughing
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Post by Kick Fri Jan 31, 2014 2:20 am

Since we cannot keep it civil in here, I am going to lock this thread.
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