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Post by Mr Nick09 Mon Mar 17, 2014 1:08 am

He doesnt have a thread yet?

his coaching career so far in a nutshell
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Post by Lex Mon Mar 17, 2014 1:11 am

Better than Zidane, dontchaknow
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Post by Robespierre Mon Mar 17, 2014 1:12 am

lol he arouses a bit of pity tbh
all tease him, even " Mr. I lose 100 finals" Jorge Jesus Laughing
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Post by RED Mon Mar 17, 2014 1:16 am

The most obvious secret agent. I bet he celebrated after with the rest of his Gooner family. eco smile 

Atleast to Moyes' credit, he hides his connections to Liverpool.
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Post by Lex Mon Mar 17, 2014 1:17 am

He tried to cover his tracks by starting a fight with Sagna today. but we all know who Timothy lad is rooting for :bow:
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Post by Twoism Mon Mar 17, 2014 1:19 am

Feel for the guy but he's not ready yet for this level. Spurs was all over the place, Arsenal was having the worst h2h Spurs game in 5 years, stats wise  Shocked and yet Spurs players were unable to score.

They gave it all but so limited in many areas. With a bit of pace any team could trouble that back line, Spurs attack consisted of 4 players who like to penetrate and do their own things in the most gun ho way possible. Townsend thought he's Messi, Chadli's Ronaldo, Adebayor's Ibra & Erikssen's prime Kaka. This spurs team has personel, just awful game plan.

That's not to say Arsenal was any better, we were better for 2 minutes and worse for the remaining. Like I said in the game thread, it's like watching 2 babies repeatedly tripping over each other.
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Post by McAgger Mon Mar 17, 2014 1:53 am

Still doing better than AVB

AVB:
7. Tottenham  16 8 3 5 15-21 -6 27p

Sherwood:
5. Tottenham 14 8 2 4 22-17 +5 26p

Two matches less and he's got almost the same amount points. More goals scored and less conceded.

And yeah he's still shit Laughing
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Post by The Franchise Mon Mar 17, 2014 1:58 am

Surely sacking AVB was based on the logic that they no longer believed in him and felt like the team would not make 4th by turning the season around.

Well, they have paid the guy to sit at home and if they didnt know yet, they will soon......they still wont be making 4th.



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Post by Winter is Coming Mon Mar 17, 2014 1:59 am

How many of the top teams did he play compared to AvB tho?
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Post by McAgger Mon Mar 17, 2014 2:12 am

AVB had: Arsenal away, Chelsea at home, Everton away, City away, United at home, Liverpool at home

Dim Tim had: United away, City at home, Everton at home, Chelsea away, Arsenal at home

So the only game missing is Liverpool for Dim Tim and he's got 2 games less so far.
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Post by Winter is Coming Mon Mar 17, 2014 2:17 am

They only got one point out of all those games?
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Post by ExtremistEnigma Mon Mar 17, 2014 2:21 am

Better than AVB. That is all.

As McAgger said, he's still shit, just less shittier than AVB.
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Post by McAgger Mon Mar 17, 2014 3:35 am

Winter is Coming wrote:They only got one point out of all those games?

Dim Tim got 6 points I believe. And AVB only managed 3.
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Post by CBarca Mon Mar 17, 2014 4:29 am

Just citing numbers doesn't mean anything. AVB dealt with far more injuries and a completely new team.

Both have been equally shitty so far. It's just that they've sacked AVB and radically changed halfway through the season to try and get top 4, and still won't get it...with their records looking very similar and I can tell you the play hasn't improved. Sherwood also got knocked out of 2 cups and after squeeking by Dnipro, will go out in a third.

I don't see the point in comparing the two. The thing here that makes sense is to laugh at the Spurs upper management Laughing
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Post by VendettaRed07 Mon Mar 17, 2014 4:56 am

Team was doomed for "meh" from the start. Spurs front office can blame the managers all they want but they are the biggest issue and contributers to their performance. The squad is just poorly constructed all around. The 50m of Lamela and Soldado was a complete and utter waste. They could have done so much more with that Bale transfer.
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Post by M99 Mon Mar 17, 2014 6:39 am

Lex wrote:Better than Zidane, dontchaknow

Oh, this is that Sherwood Laughing Wow did'nt know till today eco smile
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Post by urbaNRoots Mon Mar 17, 2014 8:50 am

Leave him alone, he's 'ight! eco smile
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Post by Art Morte Mon Mar 17, 2014 9:14 am

Could probably swap places with Moyes without anything changing at either club.
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Post by Onyx Mon Mar 17, 2014 12:18 pm

When you compare Spurs' squad with the other top teams, they're in the right position in the table. Don't know how they went from Bale/Modric etc to Bentaleb, Townsend etc.

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Post by Arquitecto Mon Mar 17, 2014 12:24 pm

Yohan Modric wrote:When you compare Spurs' squad with the other top teams, they're in the right position in the table. Don't know how they went from Bale/Modric etc to Bentaleb, Townsend etc.

That's some skewed comparison considering they used the money of selling those two overpriced players to purchase brilliant talents such as Erik Lamela, Christian Eriksen and other known names such as Soldado, Paulinho etc.
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Post by Onyx Mon Mar 17, 2014 12:45 pm

What have Soldado and Lamela done this season though? Townsend has occasionally taken Lamela's spot and Townsend is nowhere near Bale's level. It's risky selling your best players, especially if you're close to becoming a top team. Obviously they had no choice with Modric/Bale, but I'm just saying there's a big difference between what Bale offers and what Lamela/Townsend would. Completely changing half your team, when things have worked fine in the past is definitely a big risk.

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Post by Arquitecto Mon Mar 17, 2014 1:35 pm

Yohan Modric wrote:What have Soldado and Lamela done this season though? Townsend has occasionally taken Lamela's spot and Townsend is nowhere near Bale's level. It's risky selling your best players, especially if you're close to becoming a top team. Obviously they had no choice with Modric/Bale, but I'm just saying there's a big difference between what Bale offers and what Lamela/Townsend would. Completely changing half your team, when things have worked fine in the past is definitely a big risk.

Your points do not note the managing that has caused Tottenham to plunge into such depths as this club has a 8 year record for mismanaging their talents along with the inconsistencies of what they can produce.

Looking at what Lamela and Soldado have done this season is silly considering they are a known quantity of what they can produce, one of them a young talent with a very high ceiling and propensity. Towshend benching Lamela does not reflect the quality difference between them as it represents the tactical use and how poorly Lamela has been managed by AVB and Sherwood. Same can be looked at for Modric who performed two years into his Spurs career (even then inconsistent) while Bale's best performances for Spurs last year lasting 6 months.

Looking at two quantities compared to the financial benefits reaped from Spurs is a far too simplistic way of viewing matters.
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Post by Onyx Mon Mar 17, 2014 2:09 pm

Relying on what new players can produce and what their potential is a risky strategy for a for a team who already had good chemistry and had an elite player. They were close to becoming a top team with what they already had. Although Bale's form was only for a short period, his individual ability carried Spurs at times.

Anyway all I'm saying is there's a difference in quality between the lineup yesterday and Spurs lineups from previous seasons. I don't think it's wrong to buy players, but it can't be denied that signing too many/changing too much can harm the squad overall.

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Post by BeautifulGame Mon Mar 17, 2014 2:16 pm

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And Has the audacity to call other managers classless
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Post by Arquitecto Mon Mar 17, 2014 2:23 pm

Yohan Modric wrote:Relying on what new players can produce and what their potential is a risky strategy for a for a team who already had good chemistry and had an elite player. They were close to becoming a top team with what they already had. Although Bale's form was only for a short period, his individual ability carried Spurs at times.

Anyway all I'm saying is there's a difference in quality between the lineup yesterday and Spurs lineups from previous seasons. I don't think it's wrong to buy players, but it can't be denied that signing too many/changing too much can harm the squad overall.

Not Bale nor Modric were elite players within Spurs and even in spite of Bale's form in the 2nd half of the season. If you receive such a price for players who are not worth the given amount, in this current economic climate it would be almost foolish to refuse those prices considering what can be amounted by that financial muscle. I agree that selling the players disbalanced their chemistry yet where they failed is appointing a manager who can thoroughly utilize those resources and actually build a team.
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