Re: Manchester United 2014/2015 Premier League Season (+ CC & FA Cup)

by Hapless_Hans Tue Sep 09, 2014 7:15 pm

jesus christ Laughing

who is that, Valencia?

by B-Mac Tue Sep 09, 2014 7:31 pm

yup

Can clearly make safe pass to blackett to his left goes backwards instead

by Hapless_Hans Tue Sep 09, 2014 8:38 pm

However, you also got to love that central midfielder (Anderson?) trying hard to become UNavailable for a pass rofl

by RED Tue Sep 09, 2014 9:01 pm

Busby Babe wrote:

Valencia there instead of hoofing forward, he plays it back to de gea. shit bastard!

^^ What I said during the match. He had me fuming when he did that.

This rotten player is who we replaced CR with. even gave him the no.7 shirt up until the coward bottled it and decided to go back to no.25, which I'm very glad he did btw.

Notice how even Blackett is instructing him to punt it forward. An inexperienced defender has more attacking instinct than this clown

by Busby Babe Tue Sep 09, 2014 9:25 pm

Hapless_Hans wrote:However, you also got to love that central midfielder (Anderson?) trying hard to become UNavailable for a pass

This is what is great about the gif, every time you watch it you see something new Laughing

Look at Mata after Valencia passes it backwards he tilts his head back in frustration

by Vlad the Impaler Wed Sep 10, 2014 10:58 am

However, Valencia is still better than Young. At least he can defend and he does it very well, but Young is completely useless. Laughing

by Glory Wed Sep 10, 2014 10:58 am

I am exhausted badmouthing this hammerhead... so yea whatever.

all we can hope for is at least after this lvg wont use this crappy clown again.

by Busby Babe Wed Sep 10, 2014 1:39 pm

Manchester United to announce record revenues of around £420m
• £25m profit helped by sales of 2m replica shirts
• Results should include pay-off to David Moyes

Manchester United are expected to announce record revenues on Wednesday of around £420m for last season with a £25m profit helped by sales of 2m replica shirts worldwide.

The annual results should also include details of pay-offs to the former manager David Moyes and his coaching team, but the figures will not reflect any financial losses incurred from failing to qualify for Europe for this season.

The key results have already been flagged up in a prospectus released in August for a new release of shares on the New York Stock Exchange.

The prospectus states that total revenue is expected to be approximately £429m to £434m, an increase of 18 to 19%. By comparison Real Madrid’s turnover was £480m but that includes player sales.

Profit for the year is expected to be £23m to £25m – significantly down from the £146.4m for 2012-13 but that was mainly due to a one-off tax credit.

Approximately 5m Manchester United-branded licensed products were sold last year including 2m replica shirts.

Commercial revenue is expected to be up 25% to around £190m due to pre-season tours and higher sponsorship renewals.

Operating costs are due to be up 20% to £373m mainly due to expenditure on transfer fees and higher player wages.

The prospectus states: “The Manchester United jersey and training wear are completely redesigned for each season. The annual launch of the new jersey is always a much-anticipated day for our global community of followers.

“The result is a robust wholesale apparel business that sold approximately 5m items of Manchester United branded licensed products, including approximately 2m replica jerseys, around the world in the last year.”

The debt should be confirmed as £350m, with the cost of paying off the debt a similar level to the profits.

The prospectus said: “We currently estimate that our net finance costs will be approximately £26.5m to £28.5m.”

The Manchester United executive vice-chairman Ed Woodward will take part in a conference call with investors after the results are released.

http://www.theguardian.com/football/2014/sep/09/manchester-united-record-revenues

by Hapless_Hans Wed Sep 10, 2014 1:46 pm

I'm not an expert -sports where are you?- but does that mean that profit is after the net finance costs? or do they cancel each other out then?

by Dutti Wed Sep 10, 2014 2:13 pm

Oh hey... who do we have here...do you miss me Hans?

DDUUUUTTTTIIIII

Where were you after you quoted that piece of news that just backfired against yourself?

O, you and number Proud

Jokes aside, I'm guessing the finance costs and operating costs have been accounted for in calculating the profit.

So, (maybe) profit = revenues - operating costs - finance costs = roughly 25mil.

by Busby Babe Wed Sep 10, 2014 2:17 pm

Andy Green @andersred

Club says wages @ManUtd down "single digit %" in 2014/15

Wages have in fact gone down Laughing

but we have no wage structure Proud

Andy Green @andersred

Shambolic reporting of @ManUtd by BBC. Profits "down 84%" all down to a non-cash tax credit in 2013. Cash profits up 20%.

Andy Green @andersred

Interesting for investors who bought shares off Glazers. Club spending 100% of profits on transfers.

by Hapless_Hans Wed Sep 10, 2014 2:28 pm

Dutti wrote:Oh hey... who do we have here...do you miss me Hans?
DDUUUUTTTTIIIII

Where were you after you quoted that piece of news that just backfired against yourself?

O, you and number

Jokes aside, I'm guessing the finance costs and operating costs have been accounted for in calculating the profit.

So, (maybe) profit = revenues - operating costs - finance costs = roughly 25mil.

hey there Dutti Laughing

not sure why you think that backfired though.. since if I remember correctly your insistence on being right about the 6m loan fee meant at the same time United paying Falcao 18m£ in wages Laughing

by Busby Babe Wed Sep 10, 2014 2:32 pm

£14 mil in wages, but it's weird you never see wages included in a transfer fee but with the Falcao loan deal you do. You'd never see Ronaldo cost Real Madrid £150mil (including wages), but £80 mil instead. I don't know if that £150 mil is correct, but you get my point.

by Dutti Wed Sep 10, 2014 2:36 pm

Hapless_Hans wrote:
Dutti wrote:Oh hey... who do we have here...do you miss me Hans?
DDUUUUTTTTIIIII

Where were you after you quoted that piece of news that just backfired against yourself?

O, you and number

Jokes aside, I'm guessing the finance costs and operating costs have been accounted for in calculating the profit.

So, (maybe) profit = revenues - operating costs - finance costs = roughly 25mil.

hey there Dutti

not sure why you think that backfired though.. since if I remember correctly your insistence on being right about the 6m loan fee meant at the same time United paying Falcao 18m£ in wages

It backfired because you thought the news that you quoted proved that you had placed the right bet on Di Marzio when, in fact, the news proved him wrong. That was clumsy of you. rofl

by Hapless_Hans Wed Sep 10, 2014 2:39 pm

Busby Babe wrote:it's weird you never see wages included in a transfer fee but with the Falcao loan deal you do

sure, it's just because there were conflicting reports about how much Falcao cost you, and there's surely a lot of book-cooking going on too. Ed is a financial industry accountant, after all.

by Hapless_Hans Wed Sep 10, 2014 2:41 pm

dutti, DiMarzio gets his info from Mendes and Monaco, while the English press gets their info from Woodward.

Just because there's a discrepancy between English news and DiMarzio, that doesn't mean they 'prove him wrong'.

by Dutti Wed Sep 10, 2014 2:45 pm

Regardless, that Guardian news that you quoted didn't help your argument about Di Marzio, because the news quoted very different figures from what Di Marzio had reported. That's why it backfired against you. Smile

by Busby Babe Wed Sep 10, 2014 2:45 pm

No, it's for other pl fans to comfort themselves that they could not afford Falcao. Hell, I've seen articles say Welbeck (£16mil) cost less than Falcao does for one year.

Cooking the books? That sounds like you don't like what Woodward is saying, thus making yourself believe that he's lying.

by B-Mac Wed Sep 10, 2014 5:58 pm

Herrera is on dirt cheap wages to our other signings if I recall, and why they went down we got rid of the 3 highest earning defenders, Welbeck who was on like 80k a week, Hernandez who was on similar wages and the greedy bastard Cleverley

would not be surprised if the % it went down is below 5% difference lol but still less none the less

by RED Fri Sep 12, 2014 12:06 am

In case anyone missed it, here's LVG, Blind and Falcao's presser from earlier today

by Hapless_Hans Fri Sep 12, 2014 1:03 am

'they are vacant for the juice' - 16'16"

by RED Sat Sep 13, 2014 9:57 am

Phil Jones injured again.

He can't seem to manage a run of games without getting injured.

Utterly pathetic how injury prone our defence is.

by Busby Babe Sat Sep 13, 2014 9:27 pm

Sucks so much. LvG said he's evaluating the teams preparations because of the amount of the injuries we have, I hope it works, but obviously there's so much he can do when the majority of our defence is injury prone. I swear Jones is the CB version of Wilshere, talented but gets injured too often.

by Busby Babe Sat Sep 13, 2014 9:47 pm

Nice to see in the video, LvG saying 8 spots up for grabs for the youth players. He mentioned Wilson as one of the injured players this week so he's contention for making the squad now. There was a training clip, that showed Andreas Pereira training with the first team as well. We have a lot of #10s, but our CM depth is poor I'd like to see LvG try to experiment with him and try make him a CM, he has great work rate. Or, even try him as a winger.

by Robespierre Sat Sep 13, 2014 9:50 pm

excuse me a question, Falcao will play tomorrow ? what news do you have about it ?

by Busby Babe Sat Sep 13, 2014 10:02 pm

I don't think he starts. Due to injuries van Gaal already has to give a debut to Blind, Rojo and maybe Shaw but he's not 100% fit. Herrera and Di Maria still haven't played a lot with the team either. Today, Liverpool struggled by trying to play too many new signings together. So van Gaal might not want to make too many changes. I think Falcao comes off the bench.

It also gives him an excuse for now, he doesn't have to bench Mata, RvP or Rooney yet if he uses Falcao off the bench.

But this only my opinion that he won't start. Falcao has said he is fit.

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