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Post by McAgger Tue Aug 05, 2014 4:23 pm

What would you guys think of signings 1 year contract with a older legend that's past it just to cover until January or next summer when there are better options in the market? As it looks right now available ST's are very shit to the level we want relatively speaking.

Just some examples would be David Villa, Del Piero, Henry, Eto'o, etc? Not exactly these guys but someone like that who is past it but still has quality to help out until January or so.

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Post by Art Morte Tue Aug 05, 2014 4:50 pm

Bendtner is still a free agent, I think hmm
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Post by McAgger Tue Aug 05, 2014 5:02 pm

Morty Proud
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Post by McAgger Tue Aug 05, 2014 5:39 pm

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Liverpool have accepted an offer from Bayern Munich for Pepe Reina.

Bye, Pepe.
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Post by McAgger Tue Aug 05, 2014 5:41 pm

Fee around 2m pounds - Gary Jacob.
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Post by Fahim89 Tue Aug 05, 2014 5:52 pm

well that's a good ending for all concerned parties  Thumbs up 
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Post by Helmer Tue Aug 05, 2014 7:56 pm

just get him off please and I hope so many other players will find some useful loans in this season

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Post by iftikhar Wed Aug 06, 2014 5:42 am

I don't understand why we refused to sell Kolo to that Turkish club!!!
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Post by Nishankly Wed Aug 06, 2014 6:05 am

We really need to get a CF who can ok out wide. Ill be comfortable in sacrificing a FB (Moreno?) if we dont have resources (which we have, Im just saying how important it is for us to get a CF) for a decent CF. hmm
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Post by McAgger Wed Aug 06, 2014 6:15 am

Looking at the current options available, I'd take Bony in a heart beat.

I'm dead serious. I dread going into the season with Lambert and Borini as back up. Bony is a very good player in his own right even if maybe he's not the ideal choice.
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Post by Art Morte Wed Aug 06, 2014 6:25 am

Nishy wrote:We really need to get a CF who can ok out wide.

Why? If we need one, that's Sturridge. We've got enough wide attacking players already. If we want to play our new forward with Sturridge, either have both up top or Sturridge out wide.


Don't call me James wrote:Looking at the current options available, I'd take Bony in a heart beat.

I'm dead serious. I dread going into the season with Lambert and Borini as back up. Bony is a very good player in his own right even if maybe he's not the ideal choice.

If we are going to buy a "PL proven player", I think Bony and Benteke are the only options.
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Post by Nishankly Wed Aug 06, 2014 6:29 am

Because BR wanted Remy, That confirmed we wanted a striker who has the legs to play out wide as well. This move seems to show that BR wants to play Danny centrally for most parts of the season ( which was and is still expected prior to Remy rumors) so the new forward we want to bring in would be Remy-ish.
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Post by Art Morte Wed Aug 06, 2014 6:38 am

Back to Reus, then.


But personally I would just buy whoever is the best player and can score goals and is available rather than think can we play him out wide. Sturridge can play out wide, so I don't think it would hinder us at all if we bought a striker who just plays through the middle.
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Post by RedOranje Wed Aug 06, 2014 7:19 am

Neither Bony nor Benteke would accept sitting on the bench regularly when we opted for a 4-3-3 formation though, and neither really has the pace or technical ability to contribute in any role other than as a CF.

Lambert, while he's not quick and has quickly become the "in" player to scapegoat, is better than both of those two with the ball at his feet, willing to be a squad player, and even a bit more versatile than those two mentioned. Hell, if what everyone is concerned about is having a "Prem proven goalscorer" to back up Sturridge there are really very few options better than Lambert... and given his addition statistics for assists on top of goals, he is in that regard superior to Bony and Benteke. Obviously, statistics don't tell the whole story but then I don't think the visual cues and other areas really favour those two strikers over Lambert either. This is pretty clearly a case of the grass being greener, to be honest. Neither of the players offers any significantly and indisputably superior areas to Lambert other than age (which matters little when we have so many young attackers already here and are looking for a mid-to-short term back-up), neither fits our intended play or system better than Lambert, and neither would be as likely to accept the same type of role in the squad that he is.


As far as I can tell neither Bony nor Benteke provide what can be consider legitimately good options for us, plain and simple.
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Post by Art Morte Wed Aug 06, 2014 8:48 am

I'm not saying we should sign Bony or Benteke, but given the scarcity of options available, it wouldn't surprise me if we did. (I also think they would accept a 2nd choice striker role, it would still be a step up from playing for Swansea or Villa, not to mention more money).

Anyway, I hope we sign an attacker who is predominantly a CF, because that's where we are light. We've got plenty of players who can play out wide, but if Sturridge is unavailable we are going to need someone who is at their best playing through the middle.

Lambert is a fine option to have, but past his peak and probably not quite good enough to be our 2nd choice striker.
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Post by Curtinho Wed Aug 06, 2014 12:59 pm

Bony is far and away a superior player to Lambert at almost everything come on now.
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Post by Helmer Wed Aug 06, 2014 2:18 pm

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The fee for Coady is understood to be £500,000 plus add ons.

I had high hopes for him but seems like he has to go. Good luck to him.

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Post by Nishankly Wed Aug 06, 2014 2:23 pm

HEIL MEIN REDS wrote:Tony Barrett ‏@TonyBarretTimes 42s
The fee for Coady is understood to be £500,000 plus add ons.

I had high hopes for him but seems like he has to go. Good luck to him.


Liverpool have accepted an offer from Huddersfield Town for Conor Coady & the player is undergoing a medical.
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Post by Nishankly Wed Aug 06, 2014 2:27 pm

Assaidi and Borini should follow suit asap.
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Post by McAgger Wed Aug 06, 2014 3:29 pm

Manquillo is official btw

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Post by McAgger Wed Aug 06, 2014 3:30 pm

Nishy update your list of Ins/Outs. Reina, Coady, and Manquillo.
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Post by BeautifulGame Wed Aug 06, 2014 3:56 pm

Don't call me James wrote:Manquillo is official btw

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No lean  hmm 
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Post by McAgger Wed Aug 06, 2014 4:01 pm

got cut off ffs

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Post by McAgger Wed Aug 06, 2014 4:07 pm

Don't call me James wrote:Ok so with the major part of preseason over I expect these departures:

-Reina
-Johnson
-Agger (really wish it was Skrtel instead of him as he shits on Martin but oh well)
-Assaidi
-Coates (LOAN)
-Borini
-Kelly (LOAN)
-Coady
-Adorjan
-Teixeira (LOAN)
-Robinson (LOAN)
-More Possibly Youth Loans: McLaughlin, Brad Smith, Peterson, etc.
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Post by Nishankly Wed Aug 06, 2014 5:45 pm

Transfer table:

Ins:

Rickie Lambert - Southampton 4m
Emre Can - Bayer Leverkusen 9.75m
Adam Lallana - Southampton 23m
Lazar Markovic - SL Benfica 19.8m
Dejan Lovren - Southampton 16m
Divock Origi - Lille FC 10m

Kevin Stewart - Tottenham Hotspur - Free

Javier Manquillo - Loan - Sevilla


Outs:

Luis Suarez <3 - Barcelona 75m

Armin Hodzic - Dynamo Zagreb (Undisclosed)
Conor Coady - Huddersfield 500k
Pepe Reina - Bayern Munich 2m

Yalany Baio - Released
Villyan Bijev - Released
Yusuf Mersin - Released
Michael Ngoo - Released
Craig Roddan - Released
Stephen Sama - Released
Jakub Sokolik - Released

Luis Alberto - Loan - Malaga CF
Iago Aspas - Loan - Seville FC
Andre Wisdom - Loan- West Bromwich
Divock Origi - Loan- Lille FC


All prices are in English pounds and do not include add ons.

Total in: 82m
Total out: 77.5m
Current Net: -4.5m

Add ons:

Lallana 2m
Lovren 4m
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