Barclay's Premier League '14-'15 discussion V2

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:

El Gunner wrote:

Dnmac4 wrote:

CBarca wrote:

FA cup final was this season?

Sorry don't pay too much attention to Arsenal's preseason.

I'm not saying much. It's early in the season so it's only been a couple games, I'm just responding to dnmac who is jerking off to Cazorla when he's been very underwhelming so far and that's why he was benched against Everton

Fair play he made amends with the assist but let's not say he's been spectacular, k? He's been shite so far.

Sooooooo, you're agreeing with that other Arsenal fan that Jack Wilshere has been better this season than Santi?  

And yes, the community shield counts especially for a team like Arsenal who needed to win against a big team like that instead of getting whipped up on like last year.  Had they lost that game I'm sure there would be many critical fans saying gee look more of the same from Arsenal.

If you watched the game which I hope you actually did then you would see how much it meant to them.

And LOL picking Cazorla out to blame the CL game against Besiktas on, just typical.  Let me guess Wilshere had nothing to do with that game right?  Wrong he started too but it was Santi's fault, Santi had the lionshare of the scoring opportunities and shots on goal but Wilshere played great and Santi was crap.  

It never stops, Jack Wilshere could walk into some of these Arsenal fans houses take a crap on there floor and they would claim it smelled like roses.  While if Santi has a game with out a goal or assist no matter what happens he played like crap.

You say Santi's been underwhelming, well against City and Everton he had a goal and an assist, the two best teams they played against and he's played in 3 games plus a 20 minute cameo.

IF he kept that average up he would probbly win EPL player of the season, but you're right he's been underwhelming.  If you actually watched the Everton game they were on there way to getting there ass handed to them until they took Jack out for Santi and he got them going.

Oh and BTW, Jack has played in everyone of Arsenal's games this year and as usual he has done nothing.

And as for your friend EL Gunner who seems to share your opinion he went full retard on here with this gem of a quote,

"Wilshere has been playing with a bit more injected pace into his game, you can see he is trying hard and trying to get back to making forward runs and great through passes like he used to in his breakout season. Ramsey has given the ball away on multiple occasions in these first 3 matches and he hasn't been near the form which he showed last season. Yes, he still works hard and still makes forward runs. But except his goal against Palace and today at Everton, and his one special pass against Besiktas which set up Giroud with a chance, he has had minimal impact on our game imo."

So let me get this straight, Wilshere is the one powering Arsenal to victory even though when he left the field against Everton is was 0-2 when they beat Crystal Palace they were tied 1-1 when he left the field and Ramsey scored the winner and both Ramsey and Cazorla Showed out against City where Wilshere did pretty much nothing.

So in El Gunner's opinion and yours I'm not sure.  Just forget about all those annoying goals, assists, game winners, and chances created etc that's not important to Arsenal.

Forget that the moment Santi came on and turned the game around against Everton who was beating there brains in when he only had a 20 minute cameo and Jack played 70 minutes and got his midfield owned by a pretty pedestrian Everton midfield.

We should forget about all that meaningless stuff and focus on Wilshere's injected pace and that he's "trying really hard".  He's trying to be his breakout self again, I mean he's not doing it, his through balls are not coming off and he gets owned by basically every midfield he plays against but he trys really hard.

I'm not even making this stuff up, I posted that part of El Gunner's quote again below.  It's mind blowing.  This everyone deserves a trophy generation needs to grow up.

"Wilshere has been playing with a bit more injected pace into his game, you can see he is trying hard and trying to get back to making forward runs and great through passes like he used to in his breakout season."

No.
Don't put words in my mouth. I am not saying his been brilliant and powering us to victory because that is not the case.
I only said that Wilshere has been playing a bit better than Ramsey so far this season, with Ramsey only coming up with the goals.
That's quite simple and clear, and you can make all other associations or assumptions from that all you want.
But that's my point and quite frankly i'm not interested in engaging in a futile arguement.

Yohan Modric wrote:3-0 Man City, Aguero.

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:City are insanely clinical, it's why they won it last season and why opinion at least they will win it again.

No other team can play like shit for long periods, but still win so comfortably.