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Post by RealGunner Thu Oct 09, 2014 11:07 pm

Would be surprised if Spain ever reach their 08-12 heights. Xavi made Spain happen. They either build it around lesser players like Fabregas or Koke or they just play it like any other international team. But Since Spain's style is now "passing football" they will never go against it to suit someone like Costa.

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Post by farfan Thu Oct 09, 2014 11:14 pm

RealGunner wrote:Would be surprised if Spain ever reach their 08-12 heights. Xavi made Spain happen. They either build it around lesser players like Fabregas or Koke or they just play it like any other international team. But Since Spain's style is now "passing football" they will never go against it to suit someone like Costa.


it's ridiculous that they're pigeonholing themselves in this " style " when they actually have the right players to play some highly efficient direct football.

heck, with the players they have they can experiment with any style they please.
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Post by futbol Thu Oct 09, 2014 11:21 pm

Even Barca is playing so much more direct in comparison to Spain these days. It's as if Spain still employ the exact same tactics from 2010 but all the players move the ball around 50 % slower and can't retain it long enough in advanced areas. An eye sore. To top it all off Casillas is clowning around like Valdes in his worst days and Costa doesn't fit. The fullbacks are also chit.

I'd actually like to see alexjanosik comment on this game.

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Post by The Franchise Fri Oct 10, 2014 12:14 am

Didnt watch the game, but dont feel I have to. No rocket science is needed, just need to watch any successful Costa performance and watch Spain generally speaking...to see the issue.

Costa cant do anything without space to run behind into. Dont have anything else, has to run into channels and run over the top to chase balls.

Play with Spain, there is no space to run into. The want to keep the ball, they want to get up the pitch gradually.

Even though they are lost in their style (similar to Barca under Roura I would say) and dont keep possession high up the pitch, but deep in midfield...they still have the same players with the same ideas. They arent going to knock it long into space for Costa to fight for a 50-50. If and when Costa doesnt get in from it, that means they will actually have to defend without the ball, which is something they are comically bad at.

Its nobody's fault really. Costa is who is he, a limited player only useful in the correct conditions (not the only player like this, better players than him have had the same affliction) and many of the Spanish team are who they are and play the way they have done.

The problem is what was said right at the start, Costa dont fit the team and never should have joined the team.
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Post by BarrileteCosmico Fri Oct 10, 2014 2:07 am

He would have actually fit Scolari's plan quite well. Oh well, I for one am not going to complain about that Laughing
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Post by Dnmac4 Fri Oct 10, 2014 3:05 am

Guys it's 6 freaking games.  Messi and Ronaldo have gone on way longer streaks of being poor for there national team.  

The guy is used to playing in system's at every team he's been on basically since he was a teenager which are night and day to this Spain system.  And at the world cup he was just thrown to the wolves so I don't see how you can judge him there as the whole team was bad.  I mean no one could fix that mess.

Spain needs an entire reboot, the problem is VDB knows they will qualify doing it his way.  He is way too loyal to certain players and his system.  I mean if people watched the game today instead of just being shocked after seeing the score line and blaming Costa, no one was having much fun out there or putting in great shifts.

I mean VDB is spoiled for choice.  And when a team doesn't play up to the immense potential it's generally the manager that's the issue and needs to go.
 
How Costa is supposed to ride in on his white horse and fix all of the issues with this Spain team is beyond me.  Its not his fault they can't keep a clean sheet anymore which used to be child's play for them.  

I mean did people really expect Spain to be the same team after they ripped out one of the best midfield's of all time, prime David Villa, Prime Casillas, Prime Puyol etc.

That's the whole spine of the team, they have to learn how to play as a group again.

I said it a long time ago and I will say it again, Pep deserves a lot of credit for a lot of those trophies Spain hauled in.  That was basically his team and system out there as some of the games they had like 7/8 Barca players on the field at a time (Pique, Puyol, Busquets, Xavi, Iniesta, Pedro, Villa).  In the 2010 World Cup final they started 7 Barca players.

That kept the ego's in check and all the issues this national team had for decades of underachieving and infighting with players from different squads went away because of the Barca contingent.  

That's gone now and you can't blame this all on Costa, this was going to happen with or with out him.  What, do you people want Torres up front or something because that's a prime VDB move.
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Post by Dnmac4 Fri Oct 10, 2014 3:16 am

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:He's crap for Spain lol, he's been crap every single game for them and will continue to be crap for them.

For reasons I have already explained countless times.
farfan wrote:great leader is avoiding this thread like the plague Laughing


Why should I bother explaining myself to people who just twist my words and lie constantly?  I have tried to explain my posts but it just gets construed as "mole thinks he's crap " so why should I bother.

Got much better things to do with my time


Dude, just stop.  

Twisting your words huh.  You said flat out he couldn't play in many other system's and specifically in Chelsea's system.  You even said he would "Flop Hard" at Chelsea Here's your quote (the second one saying he couldn't play in Chelsea's system)

I agree with the Falcao comparison but we all know Falcao is crap at that.

Which is why i said he needs to pick his next club very carefully although he's more well rounded outside the box than Falcao he's still very limited IMO and wouldn't lend well within Chelsea's tactics personally.


No one is twisting your words. You went into the kiddie pool head first in that thread and now your trying to blame other people.  Pretty lame.
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Post by LeBéninois Fri Oct 10, 2014 4:53 am

Dnmac4 wrote:Guys it's 6 freaking games.  Messi and Ronaldo have gone on way longer streaks of being poor for there national team.  

The guy is used to playing in system's at every team he's been on basically since he was a teenager which are night and day to this Spain system.  And at the world cup he was just thrown to the wolves so I don't see how you can judge him there as the whole team was bad.  I mean no one could fix that mess.

Spain needs an entire reboot, the problem is VDB knows they will qualify doing it his way.  He is way too loyal to certain players and his system.  I mean if people watched the game today instead of just being shocked after seeing the score line and blaming Costa, no one was having much fun out there or putting in great shifts.

I mean VDB is spoiled for choice.  And when a team doesn't play up to the immense potential it's generally the manager that's the issue and needs to go.
 
How Costa is supposed to ride in on his white horse and fix all of the issues with this Spain team is beyond me.  Its not his fault they can't keep a clean sheet anymore which used to be child's play for them.  

I mean did people really expect Spain to be the same team after they ripped out one of the best midfield's of all time, prime David Villa, Prime Casillas, Prime Puyol etc.

That's the whole spine of the team, they have to learn how to play as a group again.

I said it a long time ago and I will say it again, Pep deserves a lot of credit for a lot of those trophies Spain hauled in.  That was basically his team and system out there as some of the games they had like 7/8 Barca players on the field at a time (Pique, Puyol, Busquets, Xavi, Iniesta, Pedro, Villa).  In the 2010 World Cup final they started 7 Barca players.

That kept the ego's in check and all the issues this national team had for decades of underachieving and infighting with players from different squads went away because of the Barca contingent.  

That's gone now and you can't blame this all on Costa, this was going to happen with or with out him.  What, do you people want Torres up front or something because that's a prime VDB move.


I totally agree with you but I'd say Spain would have to change their tactics to be more direct. The simple fact that Xavi retired mean Spain can't play the same now.
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Post by Pip Fri Oct 10, 2014 5:56 am

I can't imagine Costa being successful for this Spain side.

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Post by fatman123 Fri Oct 10, 2014 6:53 am

Costas presence is hindering Spain and his abscence is limting Brazil, the only winner here is Argentina Laughing
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Post by Guest Fri Oct 10, 2014 3:06 pm

fatman123 wrote:Costas presence is hindering Spain and his abscence is limting Brazil, the only winner here is Argentina Laughing


Brazil is going to eat Argentina alive tomorrow.

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Post by Vibe Sat Oct 11, 2014 7:02 pm

Mole's journey through this thread:

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Post by Ganso Sat Oct 11, 2014 7:05 pm

Betty La Fea wrote:
fatman123 wrote:Costas presence is hindering Spain and his abscence is limting Brazil, the only winner here is Argentina Laughing


Brazil is going to eat Argentina alive tomorrow.

betty :bow:
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Post by terrance511 Sun Oct 12, 2014 8:18 pm

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Post by futbol Sun Oct 12, 2014 8:18 pm

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

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Post by Robespierre Sun Oct 12, 2014 8:19 pm

Laughing
in NT he looks like Torres for Chelsea Laughing
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Post by Gil Sun Oct 12, 2014 8:20 pm

Amazing how important confidence is for strikers. Costa in a Chelsea shirt buries that chance. All round play has been excellent regardless.
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Post by Be/\/ceCALI Sun Oct 12, 2014 10:29 pm

He had a glaring miss that showed his lack of confidence for Spain but I think his late goal will take a lot of weight off his shoulders and he'll start scoring for NT now.

I was impressed with his link-up today, especially with Paco. It seems like they can be a good partnership if Spain continue to play with 2 up front. I think he played well today when he got the ball. The timing of his runs were excellent. He's not as one dimensional and limited as many people say.. he played well today tbh and made the correct decisions in the run of play.
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Post by RealGunner Mon Oct 13, 2014 12:10 am

Where have you been man :bow: Welcome back :bow:
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Post by McLewis Mon Oct 13, 2014 12:42 am

It's Luxembourg tbh.

He's already been found out against the big boys.
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Post by Be/\/ceCALI Mon Oct 13, 2014 5:38 am

RealGunner wrote:Where have you been man :bow: Welcome back :bow:


thanks man, good to be back Smile
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Post by Kaladin Sun Dec 28, 2014 10:58 pm

Diego Costa: as described by /r/soccer

Compiled a list of my favourite descriptions of Diego Costa on here since September:
"Costa looks like a Bond villain's henchman." - /u/2601andrew
"Fred Flintstone after a crack binge." - /u/stopmakingsense-org
"Costa looks like he came straight out of the Flinstones." /u/mrtozza
"Costa looks like drug cartel leader." - /u/asimj289
"Absolute class striker despite his fred flintstone face." - /u/Dbigg
"Costa looks like oscars dad." - /u/liquid_danger
"Looks like the bad guy from Last Action Hero!" - /u/IcorrectUSspelling
"He looks like an extra from Scarface." - /u/I_scoff_cake
"He looks like a piece of low-grit sandpaper." - /u/mathen
"He reminds me of a younger hispanic Joel from The Last of Us." - /u/Lotionatv
"He kinda looks like a monstrous version of Oscar." - /u/Iniesto
"He looks like he could be Tevez's Dad." - /u/crookeshank
"Diego Costa has the face of a man who probably has hundreds of gigabytes of filthy pornography on his computer." - /u/EricM12
"Costa is an ugly man who scores ugly goals." - /u/Somethin1234
"Costa looks like Oscar's dad." - /u/SpaceOwl
"It's amazing Costa finds time to be so good at football in between informing the FBI on his best friend Tony Soprano." - /u/smaclver
"He either goes long sleeves and no gloves, or short sleeves with. it makes absolutely no sense." - /u/*bleep*
"Can't be arsed with this *bleep*, he's too good." - /u/Breakfeastking
"Costa's movements are very apelike." - /u/tchollinginthedeep
"Diego breaking up the fight is hilarious because he doesn't know what anyone is saying." - /u/Wintermute7
"10/10 is an ass-hat." - /u/jarkatch
"Grass is green, water is wet, Costa is a *bleep*." - /u/Zosoer
EDIT: Some more:
"Looks like a low-res Fabregas." - /u/suicidebypies
"He kind of reminds me of Wreck-It Ralph" - /u/vsnarski
"Costa has broken my *bleep* threshold to the point where i actually like him" - /u/gengleberry
"Gyp Rossetti with a mental disability" - /u/AfricanRain
"Diego Costa looks like a piece of cold pizza." - /u/ewest
"Diego Costa looks like a Dr Seuss character on meth." - aeonsapart
"If Costa wasn't making millions playing football, you can be damn sure he'd be a kidnapper in the favelas." - /u/pm_me_your_captchas
"He looks like the sort of father that'd be disappointed that Oscar is a lesbian." - /u/WinandTonic
"Costa: one of the missing links in our evolution." - /u/ionised
"He looks like one of the guys who asks to clean your car in a sainsburys car park." - /u/Stealthypenguin
"He looks like the dog from Duck Hunt" - /u/UselessArchives
"He looks like an amateur baseball player whose lied about their age." - /u/JRM_Elephant
"A Latino hobbit, el frodo" - /u/bondinferno
"Costa looks like the kinda guy where you basically have to skip country if you bring his daughter back past curfew." - /u/Dictarium
"Costa looks like a grubby middleaged car salesman that will rip you off at every chance he gets." - /u/fznwat
"Dani Alves mixed with a German Shepherd" - /u/beautifulderanged
"Costa looks like what happens if you put Oscar in the microwave for 20 seconds" - /u/kamz_00
"Costa looks like his face is made out of Play Doh that is starting to dry out." - /u/Mediocre-Jedi
"He looks like my 45 year old mechanic." - /u/the_big_lewandowski
"He looks like the falafel cart vendor down the street." - /u/the_big_lewandowski
"He looks like Saruman created him." - /u/ElDudio
"Costa looks like my dog after it attacked a wasps nest" - /u/ThePhantomScribbler
And my personal favourite: "Diego Costa looks like the 3rd Mario Brother who was edged out of the family plumbing business for being an brutal alcoholic." - /u/TheBassCave
EDIT 2: Wow, these just keep coming. I can see this becoming a monthly thing. I'll try to do one for someone else, but nobody gets as much material as Diego Costa.
EDIT 3: Keep 'em coming, people!
"He looks like he worked 10 years in scaffolding near the equator before he got into football." - /u/SweetClydeDixon
"Working 20 years in the mining business, doing meth for five years... ...in GTA III." - /u/melitonz
"Costa looks like he just laid siege on Middle Earth." - /u/Arsene3000
"Diego Costa looks like he listens to cover versions of rock songs instead of the originals." - /u/Th3Reallegend
"He looks a bit like Lou Ferrigno on a crack diet" - /u/messyisntit

Source: http://www.reddit.com/r/soccer/comments/2qktva/diego_costa_as_described_by_rsoccer/
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Post by Ganso Sun Dec 28, 2014 11:06 pm

"A Latino hobbit, el frodo" - /u/bondinferno


Laughing


Looks like a low-res Fabregas.

rofl
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Post by Kaladin Mon Dec 29, 2014 12:52 am

^There's more in the comments of the link i posted

My personal favorite: "He looks like he worked 10 years in scaffolding near the equator before he got into football." rofl
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Post by M99 Mon Dec 29, 2014 4:39 am

Just a normal father taking his son to a football game.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BxwjtaICEAA2lVu.jpg:large
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Post by MaraVilla Mon Dec 29, 2014 5:09 am

lol.

if i didnt know who costa is, i'd probably think he's aboriginal.

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