Re: The Official Balon d'Or 2014 Thread

[RealGunner]

Messi in 2012

[Winter is Coming]

Didn't he score his 91 goals that season (2012)? Makes sense, but still crazy.

[Valkyrja]

Morocco coach Badou Zaki confirmed he voted for Cristiano Ronaldo over Manuel Neuer and Lionel Messi in the Ballon d'Or as he believes the Real Madrid forward is the most deserving for his efforts in 2014.

All national team coaches and captains, and one media representative from each Fifa-recognised country are allowed to rank their top three players in the world for the accolade.

Bayern Munich's Neuer, Barcelona's Messi and Madrid's Ronaldo were allocated the most votes for their performances this calendar year. They saw off competition from the likes of Neymar, Arjen Robben and Philipp Lahm.

Zaki, who has been in charge of Morocco since May, believes Neuer is getting credit for superb teamwork whereas Ronaldo's achievements can be directly attributed to his own performances.

"I voted for Ronaldo in the Ballon d'Or as he deserved it," the former Real Mallorca goalkeeper told Goal. "He did stunning things this year such as winning Copa del Rey and the Champions League.

"He also won individual awards like the Pichichi and was the Champions League's top goalscorer last season, and also the Best La Liga player and the owner of the best goal. What do you need to do to be considered the best?

"As a former goalkeeper myself, I don't think Neuer deserves to win. Germany won the World Cup with teamwork, not thanks to one player.

"There's a lot of goalkeepers who were even more brilliant than Neuer but didn't get the same appreciation from Fifa. Not to mention that Neuer's own net was plundered for goals by Ronaldo himself in the semi-final of 2014-15's Champions League.

"Neuer won the Bundesliga and World Cup but Ronaldo also won a very difficult competition, the Champions League, and got lots of individual awards."

The Ballon d'Or will be handed out on January 12 at a Fifa award ceremony in Zurich.

[Harmonica]

Removed the penalties from the overall count, as the rules obviously are completely different for Real Madrid and their players, than the rest of the world.

2014 (14.12) in official games

Messi 49 (+7pen) goals, 25 assists = directly part of 74 goals (Top 3)

Cronaldo 48 (+13pen) goals, 21 assists = directly part of 69 goals (Top 3)

Benzema 32 (+1pen) goals, 24 assists = directly part of 56 goals

Neymar 33 (+0pen) goals, 12 assists = directly part of 45 goals
Müller 30 (+7pen) goals, 15 assists = directly part of 45 goals
Zlatan 33 (+5pen) goals, 11 assists = directly part of 44 goals
Bale 25 (+0pen) goals, 19 assists = directly part of 44 goals
Robben 24 (+3pen) goals, 16 assists = directly part of 40 goals
Suarez 19 (+0pen) goals, 21 assists = directly part of 40 goals (not shortlisted)

James 20 (+3pen) goals, 19 assists = directly part of 39 goals
Götze 25 (+0pen) goals, 13 assists = directly part of 38 goals
Di Maria 10 (+0pen) goals, 28 assists = directly part of 38 goals
Costa 27 (+2pen) goals, 3 assists = directly part of 30 goals

Hazard 16 (+7pen) goals, 12 assists = directly part of 28 goals
Toure 19 (+6pen) goals, 9 assists = directly part of 27 goals
Pobga 11 (+0pen) goals, 13 assists = directly part of 24 goals
Kroos 8 (+0pen) goals, 12 assists = directly part of 20 goals

Iniesta 4 (+0pen) goals, 12 assists = directly part of 16 goals
Schweinsteiger 6 (+0pen) goals, 7 assists = directly part of 13 goals

Defenders

Lahm
Mascherano
Ramos

Goalies

Neuer (Top 3)

Source: transfermarkt.co.uk

[Hapless_Hans]

[halamadrid2]

Lol hang on how did Ronaldo get 69 all of a sudden

Pretty sure he was on 73 something last time you updated it

[Bankz]

LoOoOoOoOL

[zigra]

Lol hang on how did Ronaldo get 69 all of a sudden

Pretty sure he was on 73 something last time you updated it

As he said he removed the penalties

[Freeza]

Wide assists, removal of penalties.. What's next ffs

[zigra]

Imo goals that shouldn't have been give (offside and stuff) won't count anymore and goals that should've been given will count
If it makes a difference.

Or we could hand out points for getting players sent off. If the team scores after you got a player sent of you get a semiwideassist

[Freeza]

any goals after a missed call shouldn't count, because if that missed call didn't happen, neither would the goals.

[Hapless_Hans]

any goals after a missed call shouldn't count, because if that missed call didn't happen, neither would the goals.

This. These missed calls distort the whole fabric of reality tbh. We need to do away with all of it.

[M99]

You couldn't make this up jiopsi

[Hapless_Hans]

Let's also register the fact that harmonica, after posting about 25 of these tables with the same methodology already, decides to take penalties out of the overall count exactly at the point where Ronaldo overtakes Messi and he would've had to put him in top spot for the first time

[zigra]

But not because Ronaldo would've topped the list but because Real Madrid is giftet to many unfair penalties.
Had nothing to do with Ronaldo vs Messi imo

[Winter is Coming]

[Freeza]

But not because Ronaldo would've topped the list but because Real Madrid is giftet to many unfair penalties.
Had nothing to do with Ronaldo vs Messi imo

Those penalties happened after a missed call so they don't exist. Ronaldo has not scored a legit goal this season imo. That throw in at the start of every game was going the wrong way, and that changed the course of the game.

[Curtinho]

It's starting to get really grim for Messi.

http://messivsronaldo.net/calendar-year.php

Ronaldo: 61 goals, 20 assists in 58 apps (81 goals created)
Messi: 56 goals, 21 assists in 65 apps (77 goals created)

Messi has to hope Ronaldo misses another 5 games so he can catch up.

[Freeza]

It's starting to get really grim for Messi.

http://messivsronaldo.net/calendar-year.php

Ronaldo: 61 goals, 20 assists in 58 apps (81 goals created)
Messi: 56 goals, 21 assists in 65 apps (77 goals created)

Messi has to hope Ronaldo misses another 5 games so he can catch up.

Did you factor in wide assist and purity of the goals? else I won't give any credit to those stats.

[Hapless_Hans]

I wouldn't call that 'grim' though, unless you reckon scoring only 50+ goals per season and not winning the Ballon D'or for the 5th time at the age of 27 is 'grim'.

[zigra]

But not because Ronaldo would've topped the list but because Real Madrid is giftet to many unfair penalties.
Had nothing to do with Ronaldo vs Messi imo

Those penalties happened after a missed call so they don't exist. Ronaldo has not scored a legit goal this season imo. That throw in at the start of every game was going the wrong way, and that changed the course of the game.

Yeah I must've missed that somehow. Thank you for reminding me bro.

Imo we also have to take into consideration that Messi scored a title winning goal last season against Atletico (+1 anyway) that was perfectly legit but wasn't given.
Imagine the mental damage on Messi because of it.. for the huge amount of mental strength he needed to recover from that imo we should give him two points for every goal scored after that game.

[Dante]

It's starting to get really grim for Messi.

http://messivsronaldo.net/calendar-year.php

Ronaldo: 61 goals, 20 assists in 58 apps (81 goals created)
Messi: 56 goals, 21 assists in 65 apps (77 goals created)

Messi has to hope Ronaldo misses another 5 games so he can catch up.

Did you factor in wide assist and purity of the goals? else I won't give any credit to those stats.

Freeza

[Curtinho]

I wouldn't call that 'grim' though, unless you reckon scoring only 50+ goals per season and not winning the Ballon D'or for the 5th time at the age of 27 is 'grim'.

Very grim. To be in Ronaldo's shadow? You can tell Messi is starting to become depressed.

[chad4401]

wide assists and purity of goals, concrete evidence and logic

[Winter is Coming]

I wouldn't call that 'grim' though, unless you reckon scoring only 50+ goals per season and not winning the Ballon D'or for the 5th time at the age of 27 is 'grim'.

Very grim. To be in Ronaldo's shadow? You can tell Messi is starting to become depressed.

You can tell that by two images then? One of which Ronaldo comforts him after losing a final, in which he still smiling and another he just seems like suit is bothering him and is bored as hell?

[Bankz]

Why dont u factor in goals scored with the weaker foot this year? It should be multiplied by two or more points..*coffee*

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