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Post by Valkyrja Mon Dec 08, 2014 4:20 pm

adamdar wrote:Penalty is a gift
In open play you have 10% chance to score. Nobody knows you will get that chance or not. In penalties you have 90% chance to score.90%=gift

Penalty is so easy to score that players get red cards to avoid penalties (or 90% scoring chance)


Hi billionmillion. If penalties are gifts why did Messi lose a CHL because of a missed penalty ?

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Post by Curtinho Mon Dec 08, 2014 5:02 pm

http://messivsronaldo.net/calendar-year.php

This is how I picture Harmonica leaving the board when Ronaldo wins the Ballon d'Or.

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Post by Harmonica Tue Dec 09, 2014 9:58 am

Penalties given in Champions League

9 Messi
7 Cronaldo

Penalties given in La Liga

46 Cronaldo
28 Messi

http://www.mundodeportivo.com/20141208/futbol/cristiano-lleva-18-penaltis-mas-que-messi-desde-que-llego-a-la-liga_54420630683.html

Iturralde (retired Spanish ref) - "Most Spanish referees are Real Madrid fans"

This season Ballon d'Or bid has obviously been affected by the referees of La Liga, Cronaldo 7 penalties to Messi's 1, and it was confirmed when Cronaldo just utterly dived a penalty, and just after Neymar didn't get one from a clear tackle.
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Post by halamadrid2 Tue Dec 09, 2014 11:34 am

Neymar is a renowned diver who pretends to be shot when slightly touched. Of course nobody is going to believe him

Itturalde got his arse handed to him by Perez on live TV, his butthurt is too severe for any medication

And no Balon dor was not affected because your team hardly gets into the penalty box as it is lmfao so its natural that you wont get penalties. We get into the opposition penalty box like every 3 minutes so its understandable we have a higher penalty count than your one dimensional team
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Post by Valkyrja Tue Dec 09, 2014 12:01 pm

halamadrid2 wrote:Neymar is a renowned diver who pretends to be shot when slightly touched. Of course nobody is going to believe him

Itturalde got his arse handed to him by Perez on live TV, his butthurt is too severe for any medication

And no Balon dor was not affected because your team hardly gets into the penalty box as it is lmfao so its natural that you wont get penalties. We get into the opposition penalty box like every 3 minutes so its understandable we have a higher penalty count than your one dimensional team


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Post by adamdar Tue Dec 09, 2014 2:20 pm

Yes nobody believes Neymar. But why people believe CR? Its shown time and time again that he dives for penalties and still gets them

Maybe you are in the box every 3 minutes. But why so much difference between CL and la liga penalties? You play in tiki taka style in CL?

I think probably Madrid have different powers and reputation in la liga compared to CL. Plus Madrid players protest better and jump better. They are tall. If a tall player goes down it looks like a tragedy. If a midget goes down nobody even notices


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Post by adamdar Tue Dec 09, 2014 2:35 pm

Valkyrja wrote:If penalties are gifts why did Messi lose a CHL because of a missed penalty ?

Everything CR does Messi does better
CR missed in CL final and Messi did it better

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Post by Freeza Tue Dec 09, 2014 3:42 pm

adamdar wrote:
Valkyrja wrote:If penalties are gifts why did Messi lose a CHL because of a missed penalty ?

Everything CR does Messi does better
CR missed in CL final and Messi did it better


He actually scored a penalty this final hmm

Messi didn't Proud
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Post by farfan Tue Dec 09, 2014 3:44 pm

adamdar ,the new teenage barcelona/ messi fan of the forum hmm

i bet he's from asia .
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Post by Harmonica Tue Dec 09, 2014 3:51 pm

Freeza wrote:
adamdar wrote:
Valkyrja wrote:If penalties are gifts why did Messi lose a CHL because of a missed penalty ?

Everything CR does Messi does better
CR missed in CL final and Messi did it better


He actually scored a penalty this final hmm

Messi didn't Proud
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Post by Bankz Tue Dec 09, 2014 3:52 pm

@hala Isn't cr7 a classic serial diver too?
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Post by Bankz Tue Dec 09, 2014 3:52 pm

@hala Isn't cr7 a classic serial diver too? That logic..smh.
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Post by Mr Nick09 Tue Dec 09, 2014 4:16 pm

@hala Isn't cr7 a classic serial diver too? That logic..smh. you have no shame hala.
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Post by MaraVilla Tue Dec 09, 2014 4:18 pm

@hala Isn't cr7 a classic serial diver too? That logic..smh. you have no shame hala :facepalm:
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Post by Freeza Tue Dec 09, 2014 4:28 pm

Harmonica wrote:
Freeza wrote:
adamdar wrote:
Everything CR does Messi does better
CR missed in CL final and Messi did it better


He actually scored a penalty this final hmm

Messi didn't Proud
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Sorry I was here thinking this was a thread about things that happened in 2014 hmm
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Post by LeVersacci Tue Dec 09, 2014 5:51 pm

CR shouldn't win Banter D'or 2014 beacuse of a missed pen in CL final years ago Molenation

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Post by LeVersacci Tue Dec 09, 2014 5:52 pm

Also some of you care more about this award than Messi & Ronaldo ffs Laughing

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Post by Winter is Coming Tue Dec 09, 2014 6:23 pm

"If Manuel won it, it'd be totally deserved", Alonso told Sport Bild. Neuer is currently considered one of the frontrunners for the prize alongside Cristiano Ronaldo, whom the Basqueman played with for several years at Real Madrid.

"Neuer is by far the best keeper I've played with and is also outstanding outfield", Alonso raved

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Post by Freeza Tue Dec 09, 2014 6:43 pm

Winter is Coming wrote:"If Manuel won it, it'd be totally deserved", Alonso told Sport Bild. Neuer is currently considered one of the frontrunners for the prize alongside Cristiano Ronaldo, whom the Basqueman played with for several years at Real Madrid.

"Neuer is by far the best keeper I've played with and is also outstanding outfield", Alonso raved

Shots fired at Casillas Laughing


I never take anything said about a current teammate for anything but diplomatic, however true the statement might be.
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Post by Lord Awesome Tue Dec 09, 2014 7:04 pm

Well he's not wrong about Neuer > Casillas.

Always figured Xabi Alonso was the smart one on the RM team when he was there. Seems he's the same at Bayern.

That penalty isn't a miss. It's a block, btw. But I know some guy at Barca who occasionally misses them. :coffee:
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Post by Harmonica Thu Dec 11, 2014 9:42 am

2014 (11.12) in official games

Messi 56 (7pen) goals, 25 assists = directly part of 81 goals (Top 3)
Cronaldo 59 (13pen) goals, 21 assists = directly part of 80 goals (Top 3)

Benzema 33 (1pen) goals, 22 assists = directly part of 55 goals

Neymar 33 (0pen) goals, 12 assists = directly part of 45 goals
Müller 30 (7pen) goals, 15 assists = directly part of 45 goals
Zlatan 33 (5pen) goals, 11 assists = directly part of 44 goals
Bale 24 (0pen) goals, 19 assists = directly part of 43 goals
James 23 (3pen) goals, 19 assists = directly part of 42 goals
Suarez 19 (0pen) goals, 21 assists = directly part of 40 goals (not shortlisted)

Götze 25 (0pen) goals, 13 assists = directly part of 38 goals
Robben 22 (3pen) goals, 16 assists = directly part of 38 goals
Di Maria 10 (0pen) goals, 28 assists = directly part of 38 goals

Costa 26 (2pen) goals, 3 assists = directly part of 29 goals
Toure 19 (6pen) goals, 9 assists = directly part of 27 goals
Hazard 15 (7pen) goals, 11 assists = directly part of 26 goals
Pobga 11 (0pen) goals, 13 assists = directly part of 24 goals
Kroos 8 (0pen) goals, 12 assists = directly part of 20 goals

Iniesta 4 (0pen) goals, 12 assists = directly part of 16 goals
Schweinsteiger 6 (0pen) goals, 6 assists = directly part of 12 goals

Defenders

Lahm
Mascherano
Ramos

Goalies

Neuer (Top 3)

Source: transfermarkt.co.uk

Cronaldo scores yet another penalty to keep up with Messi.
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Post by Kuru Thu Dec 11, 2014 11:00 am

I beginning to think you're a bot...maybe MT's inner's fan.
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Post by Pip Thu Dec 11, 2014 11:06 am

Hey Harmonica, do you know how many goals Messi was directly a part of for every year in his career?

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Post by Harmonica Thu Dec 11, 2014 1:13 pm

Pippo wrote:Hey Harmonica, do you know how many goals Messi was directly a part of for every year in his career?
2004 0
2005 8
2006 16
2007 49
2008 41
2009 56
2010 87
2011 99
2012 120
2013 64
2014 (11.12) 81
Total 621

That 2012 is quite insane when you think it now.
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Post by titosantill Thu Dec 11, 2014 4:28 pm

Freeza wrote:
Winter is Coming wrote:"If Manuel won it, it'd be totally deserved", Alonso told Sport Bild. Neuer is currently considered one of the frontrunners for the prize alongside Cristiano Ronaldo, whom the Basqueman played with for several years at Real Madrid.

"Neuer is by far the best keeper I've played with and is also outstanding outfield", Alonso raved

Shots fired at Casillas Laughing


I never take anything said about a current teammate for anything but diplomatic, however true the statement might be.


agreed, what else is he expected to say? although its no secret he and arbeloa did not get along with iker....but yeah he's expected to praise his teammate and his club....everyone does that, players and managers..hell ferguson back in the day stated ruud should be euro player of the year (as great a footballer and a talisman as ruud was, that was a bit of a stretch)
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Post by RealGunner Thu Dec 11, 2014 4:41 pm

Messi in 2012 Shocked
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