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Post by Sri Sun Feb 01, 2015 6:13 am

This is Mou and Chelsea you guys are talking about. After all these years, you still want to complain about their approach? Really?

It's about winning for them, not about how many people are jizzing their pants watching them play. It is a very practical approach to the game. Besides, they got to the top of the league by playing some fantastic football, even if it was a bit of scrub-spanking.

We can hate the approach all we want, but there is no denying that it is practical, efficient and wins them enough to show for it. Champions League with Roberto effin De Mattio sums it up.

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Post by MaraVilla Sun Feb 01, 2015 6:16 am

srigooner wrote:This is Mou and Chelsea you guys are talking about. After all these years, you still want to complain about their approach? Really?


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Post by Red Alert Sun Feb 01, 2015 8:43 am

srigooner wrote:This is Mou and Chelsea you guys are talking about. After all these years, you still want to complain about their approach? Really?

It's about winning for them, not about how many people are jizzing their pants watching them play. It is a very practical approach to the game. Besides, they got to the top of the league by playing some fantastic football, even if it was a bit of scrub-spanking.

We can hate the approach all we want, but there is no denying that it is practical, efficient and wins them enough to show for it. Champions League with Roberto effin De Mattio sums it up.


That's not banter.
That's talking with sense and logic.
Mods ban him.
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Post by Sri Sun Feb 01, 2015 9:09 am

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Post by Sri Sun Feb 01, 2015 10:20 am

United, for example, might have been tempted, one assumed, to bring down their ticket prices for the FA Cup replay against Cambridge on Tuesday, in the same way that City routinely do for their cup ties. That assumption was plainly wrong. Supporters started receiving texts that the full whack, up to £53, would be debited from their bank accounts, under the terms of the club’s “automatic cup scheme” within minutes of the final whistle at Cambridge.
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Sir Alex Ferguson was paid £2.165m in retirement last season because of his new role as a “global ambassador”. To put that into context, it would be more than Roy Hodgson earns as England’s manager, more than Antonio Conte’s basic salary when he won three successive scudetti with Juventus and even more than Joachim Löw earned, before bonuses, in the year when Germany won the World Cup.
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Sir Bobby Charlton is paid £105,000 a year as another of the club’s ambassadors and, though you would naturally expect Ferguson to get an extra chunk on top, it certainly prompted a double-take here to discover his salary is at least 14 times that of the prime minister. In fact, you could add the chancellor of the exchequer, the home secretary and almost every other cabinet minister together and their combined pay might be roughly what he comes out with in a year.
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But equally, is it not legitimate to consider it an extraordinary amount of money when it appears he might not just be earning more than a World Cup-winning manager but also more than the guy who actually runs the club?
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http://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2015/jan/31/sir-alex-ferguson-manchester-united-ambassador-salary

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Post by Sri Sun Feb 01, 2015 10:20 am

Apparently the two clubs sizing each other up at Stamford Bridge on Saturday “ain’t got no history” if you believe the different variations of the song that follows them around the country now they are threatening to turn the Premier League into a duopoly.

Perhaps this might be an appropriate time, then, to point out that Manchester City won their first FA Cup 26 years before Arsenal and their first League Cup 17 years earlier. Their first European trophy, the 1970 Cup Winners’ Cup, arrived before any of Liverpool’s. They broke the attendance record for the first time in 1924 and there are 110 years between the first and last of their major honours. Only two clubs, Blackburn Rovers (118 years) and Liverpool (111), have a longer span of success.

Likewise, Chelsea’s supporters can probably be forgiven for feeling slightly bemused about the kind of chants that could be heard at Stamford Bridge on Tuesday. As it happened, Chelsea also lifted a European trophy before Liverpool. A plastic new-age club? Chelsea had the best average attendance in England 10 times from 1908 to 1955. They were the first team to average more than 40,000 during one season and their FA Cup final replay against Leeds in 1970 pulled in a television audience of 28 million, the best there has been for a club game in England.

City have not done too badly either given that the crowd of 84,659 to watch an FA Cup tie against Stoke City in 1934 is still a record in English football. No history? Well, King George V chose Hyde Road, City’s first ground, when he became the first monarch to attend a game and if you go back even further into the Manchester Evening News archives you will find sepia-tinted clippings from 1902 when the club were raising money to keep Newton Heath going (and if you know your history, you will be aware what became of Newton Heath).



What cannot be disputed, though, is that Chelsea versus City – Abramovich against Mansour, royal blue versus royal funding – is a very modern kind of rivalry. There is no great nostalgia here. Both teams endured slump periods before the money started pouring in – City losing to Lincoln, Wycombe and York to fall to 12th in the old third division in 1998; Chelsea drawing their lowest crowd, 6,009, against Leyton Orient in 1982 – and the clubs have shared few stand-out moments apart from one of Wembley’s great custard-pie finals.

That was in the Full Members Cup in 1986 when both clubs were required to play a First Division match the previous day. Chelsea won 1-0 at Southampton while, for City, there was the small matter of a 2-2 draw at Manchester United before hotfooting it down to London. A strange set of events became even stranger when Chelsea ran up a 5-1 lead, then conceded three goals in the final six minutes and almost blew it. David Speedie had scored a hat-trick for Chelsea. Both teams wore their away kit and Colin Pates lifted a cup that is presumably kept somewhere near the back of Chelsea’s trophy cabinet these days. Gary James, the author of several distinguished books on Manchester’s football history, remembers the local paper laughing at City for even entering the competition.

http://www.theguardian.com/football/2015/jan/30/chelsea-manchester-city-history-jose-mourinho-manuel-pellegrini

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Post by Art Morte Sun Feb 01, 2015 12:10 pm

Pardew exploiting Newcastle's scouting work, Palace have signed a full-back from France Proud

Some Senegalese called Pape Souare from Lille.

And Huth is set to join Leicester from Stoke, would be a decent addition for the Foxes.
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Sun Feb 01, 2015 12:20 pm

Of course he needs to make sure he needs to make his patented left back for left back sub Laughing
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Post by Sri Sun Feb 01, 2015 12:30 pm

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#Arsenal team to play Aston Villa: Ospina, Bellerin, Mertesacker, Koscielny, Monreal, Coquelin, Ramsey, Walcott, Cazorla, Ozil, Giroud

#Arsenal subs: Szczesny, Gibbs, Gabriel, Chambers, Flamini, Rosicky, Akpom #AFCvAVFC

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Post by Sri Sun Feb 01, 2015 12:31 pm

Aston Villa FC ‏@AVFCOfficial  
#AVFC (v @Arsenal): Guzan, Hutton, Okore, Clark, Richardson, Sanchez, Delph, Cleverley, Weimann, Gil, Benteke. #AVFCLIVE

#AVFC subs (v @Arsenal): Given, Baker, Bacuna, Sinclair, Agbonlahor, Westwood, Cissokho. #AVFCLIVE


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Post by Collblanc Sun Feb 01, 2015 1:32 pm

No Alexis? ffs Arsene, if you injure this guy...........ill beat the shit out of you pos
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Post by RealGunner Sun Feb 01, 2015 1:38 pm

HOLY SHIT THAT TOUCH BY OZIL. Great assist

GIROUDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD :bow: :bow:

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Post by RealGunner Sun Feb 01, 2015 1:47 pm

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Post by MaraVilla Sun Feb 01, 2015 1:49 pm

need giroud to score 3 more goals. 2 goals for hutton and 2 pen save for ospina......for the sake of my fpl team
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Post by Sri Sun Feb 01, 2015 2:04 pm

Collblanc wrote:No Alexis? ffs Arsene, if you injure this guy...........ill beat the shit out of you pos


He's being rested for NLD

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Post by Hapless_Hans Sun Feb 01, 2015 2:05 pm

Arsenal are so much better now than at the beginning of the season.. decent pressing, a DM who gets into the right challenges.
And Bellerin, my new favourite PL player. The kid will be huge, Debuchy should be backup to him not the other way round.
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Post by Sri Sun Feb 01, 2015 2:08 pm

Let's not be Gil-esque in hyping Hans.. If you insist, you can join my Sanogoat bandwagon though Very Happy

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Post by Helmer Sun Feb 01, 2015 2:09 pm

I dont think Gil over overhypes someone, it is just the way he rates players :coffee:

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Post by Sri Sun Feb 01, 2015 2:10 pm

Bore off HMR Laughing

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Post by Hapless_Hans Sun Feb 01, 2015 2:11 pm

the little Gil in me wants to overhype that kid, and it feels good.
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Post by Sri Sun Feb 01, 2015 2:12 pm

Hapless_Hans wrote:the little Gil in me wants to overhype that kid, and it feels good.


ffs rofl

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Post by Helmer Sun Feb 01, 2015 2:14 pm

Hapless_Hans wrote:the little Gil in me wants to overhype that kid, and it feels good to be little Gil.

then how does Gil feel about it hmm

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Post by Sri Sun Feb 01, 2015 2:15 pm

HEIL MEIN REDS wrote:
Hapless_Hans wrote:the little Gil in me wants to overhype that kid, and it feels good to be little Gil.

then how does Gil feel about it hmm


He probably has little han(d)s in him too rofl

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Post by Sri Sun Feb 01, 2015 2:16 pm

I hope Art wasn't expecting Hans to be exclusive though. He could be really VAGI by this hmm

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Post by Helmer Sun Feb 01, 2015 2:21 pm

srigooner wrote:
HEIL MEIN REDS wrote:
Hapless_Hans wrote:the little Gil in me wants to overhype that kid, and it feels good to be little Gil.

then how does Gil feel about it hmm


He probably has little han(d)s in him too rofl

stahp pls Laughing

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Post by Sri Sun Feb 01, 2015 2:43 pm

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