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Post by Helmer Mon Feb 02, 2015 12:29 pm

did you just edit your post Mad

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Post by Sri Mon Feb 02, 2015 12:41 pm

HEIL MEIN REDS wrote:did you just edit your post Mad


Yeah 15 minutes before you replied rofl

I realized that my first post was too hasty and needed some elaboration.. Which is why the other ladies joined in Very Happy

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Post by Nishankly Mon Feb 02, 2015 12:42 pm

Robespierre wrote:Liverpool 4 wins and 2 ties in last 6 matches, and it could be 5 if they didn't bottle it against Leicester at Anfield, they are getting results with a good game too , very deserved victory against Hammers.
Just a curiosity : does LFC fans want still Rodgers out ? hmm


Rodgers deserves full credit for turning it around, He also has to share a huge amount of blame for not turning it around a bit sooner. It works both ways, As long as he gets a top 5 finish and a trophy imo he's safe.
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Post by Nishankly Mon Feb 02, 2015 12:43 pm

Emma Stone ffs :bow: :bow:
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Mon Feb 02, 2015 12:44 pm

He's safe regardless imo.
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Post by Nishankly Mon Feb 02, 2015 12:47 pm

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:He's safe regardless imo.


My imo is not Liverpool boards imo hmm
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Post by Sri Mon Feb 02, 2015 12:48 pm

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:He's safe regardless imo.


Me or Brenda? hmm

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Post by Sri Mon Feb 02, 2015 12:49 pm

Nishy wrote:
Rodgers deserves full credit for turning it around, He also has to share a huge amount of blame for not turning it around a bit sooner. It works both ways, As long as he gets a top 5 finish and a trophy imo he's safe.


That's how we ended up with Arsene for 18 years Proud

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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Mon Feb 02, 2015 12:50 pm

srigooner wrote:
Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:He's safe regardless imo.


Me or Brenda? hmm


Eeyore hmm
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Post by McAgger Mon Feb 02, 2015 3:28 pm

Natalie Portman wrote:
Some fans are cowards...some fans are leaders.


I'm gonna get this tattooed on my forehead Proud Commander Sepi Molenation
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Post by El Gunner Mon Feb 02, 2015 3:37 pm

Nishy wrote:Emma Stone ffs :bow: :bow:
Proud Proud Proud Proud Proud
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Post by McAgger Mon Feb 02, 2015 3:39 pm

Are you people serious abotu Emma Stone?

She's got such a weird looking face. I find her quite unattractive.
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Post by El Gunner Mon Feb 02, 2015 3:41 pm

Don't call me James wrote:Are you people serious abotu Emma Stone?

She's got such a weird looking face. I find her quite unattractive.

Reported.
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Post by Curtinho Mon Feb 02, 2015 4:48 pm

Nishy wrote:
Robespierre wrote:Liverpool  4 wins and 2 ties in last 6 matches, and it could be 5 if they didn't bottle it against Leicester at Anfield, they are getting results with a good game too , very deserved victory against Hammers.
Just a curiosity : does LFC fans want still Rodgers out ? hmm


Rodgers deserves full credit for turning it around, He also has to share a huge amount of blame for not turning it around a bit sooner. It works both ways, As long as he gets a top 5 finish and a trophy imo he's safe.


Does he also deserve full credit for taking us from mid-table to 2nd place in the PL and an individual error away from winning the title? Or is this one of those things where we are judging on a season to season basis ignoring all previous accomplishments and work done? hmm

Rodgers has, and had, already successfully turned this team into a great team to watch with their high pressing, attack minded and free-flowing play. On top of that he also brought success and competitiveness and it's in a period where Liverpool are not just one of the 'big 4' clubs anymore as all of City, Arsenal, United and Chelsea can outspend us, and attract better players than we can.

For me, even if the season hadn't been turned around (though I was confident it was going to anyway) Rodgers deserved better than the fans turning on him like fair-weather mongrels.
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Post by McAgger Mon Feb 02, 2015 4:56 pm

Football managing is not a life time achievement award. If a manager is making horrible, yes horrible, decisions like Brendan was at the start for the season then it is not going to matter what they did last year, they are going to get criticized for what they are doing now. He was looking so clueless until December this season that all the criticism he received was well justified.

Now that he's turned it around he DESERVES all the credit he's getting.

Obviously you will have exceptions of people where no matter what the manager does they will still criticize him. Those are people with agendas and they don't really care if the club was winning or being successful they would still push their own agendas.

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Post by Curtinho Mon Feb 02, 2015 5:01 pm

There's a difference between criticizing a manager and calling him a fraud and asking for him to be sacked. He's one of the youngest/most inexperienced top level managers out there he is going to make mistakes. I fully agreed with the criticisms leveled at some of the decisions he was making, but a lot of fans (you specifically, too) calling him a fraud, calling for him to be sacked and all the other drivel was just ridiculous and short-sighted in general.
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Post by Guest Mon Feb 02, 2015 7:13 pm

Can Cuadrado do the seemingly impossible(at least to Schürrle,Mata, and Salah) and finally Bench 1 goal 1 assist Willian?

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Post by Art Morte Mon Feb 02, 2015 7:36 pm

Betty La Fea wrote:Can Cuadrado do the seemingly impossible(at least to Schürrle,Mata, and Salah) and finally Bench 1 goal 1 assist Willian?


Depends on his defensive work rate.
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Post by lszanto Mon Feb 02, 2015 8:15 pm

Betty La Fea wrote:Can Cuadrado do the seemingly impossible(at least to Schürrle,Mata, and Salah) and finally Bench 1 goal 1 assist Willian?


If he shows the kind of form he's capable off and like we saw in the WC then there's no doubt Cuadrado would be the undisputed starter. Maybe in bigger matches Willian may start though due to workrate but Cuadrado is no slouch.
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Post by DeletedUser#1 Mon Feb 02, 2015 11:28 pm

El Cujo wrote:There's a difference between criticizing a manager and calling him a fraud and asking for him to be sacked. He's one of the youngest/most inexperienced top level managers out there he is going to make mistakes. I fully agreed with the criticisms leveled at some of the decisions he was making, but a lot of fans (you specifically, too) calling him a fraud, calling for him to be sacked and all the other drivel was just ridiculous and short-sighted in general.


That I agree with. But sadly, we live in a sack-happy era where apparently every problem is solved by sacking managers.

Funny thing is, the manager most wanted by those calling for Rodgers head, Klopp, has had the exact same issues as Brendan had earlier this season, yet unlike Brendan (Who came out with a new formation outta nowhere, with some bold decisions and it worked) he hasn't steadied the ship and stopped the slide. He hasn't changed his tactical approach, is still stubborn on a way of playing that is clearly failing and is BOTTOM of the league, facing relegation. It's a poetic irony.

Imagine if Klopp was managing us and we were bottom of the league. People would want him sacked and replaced by someone else Laughing

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Post by Curtinho Tue Feb 03, 2015 2:57 am

They wouldn't just want him sacked. If Rodgers had us at the bottom of the league, especially in the less competitive Bundesliga, they would want him banned from football for life and every player traded to China or something.
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Post by Sri Tue Feb 03, 2015 1:52 pm

Googled 'dodgy'.

Not disappointed rofl rofl rofl

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Post by Hapless_Hans Tue Feb 03, 2015 2:00 pm

El Cujo wrote:They wouldn't just want him sacked. If Rodgers had us at the bottom of the league, especially in the less competitive Bundesliga, they would want him banned from football for life and every player traded to China or something.


First of all, the notion that the Bundesliga is "less competitive", especially from places 2-18 lol, isn't getting any truer the more it's used.
Second of all, you cannot compare the importance Klopp has in the recent standing and identity of Dortmund with Rodgers' importance for Liverpool.
If Rodgers had won the league last year and wins it this season, adds the this season's FA cup to the back to back league wins, and then leads Liverpool to the CL final 2016 while finishing 2nd in the league two more times, and THEN gets you to last spot in the table, we could compare it.

oh wait, and all that while making suprlus from player sales in the first seasons, not spending tens of millions.
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Post by Art Morte Tue Feb 03, 2015 2:58 pm

Nooooooooooo, Harry has resigned Crying or Very sad

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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Tue Feb 03, 2015 3:05 pm

Laughing

Again getting out before he gets the blame for another failure Laughing

Can't wait for the excuses his media buddies make for him.
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Post by Art Morte Tue Feb 03, 2015 3:08 pm

He took an arrow to the knee, can't coach, then.
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