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Post by futbol Mon Apr 20, 2015 9:20 am

#saveUsTransferBan

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Post by free_cat Mon Apr 20, 2015 12:50 pm

It's not far fetched to say that Pogba is the best midfielder in the world, but it's more to current Top midfielders declining than him being so incredible. Modric and Scweinsteigger has been injured a lot, Xavi is old, Iniesta is in poor form, etc.
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Post by Robespierre Mon Apr 20, 2015 1:09 pm

The only player to increase his price even when he is injured hmm
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Mon Apr 20, 2015 1:27 pm

It's been said before but Barca can buy players, they just can't register them for official competitions.
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Post by Glory Mon Apr 20, 2015 1:33 pm

Pogba going to Barca would be a minor consolation for me, a devastated united fan.  Crying or Very sad  Dread all other prospects. Even Real. So go Barca go !! bounce bounce 'We' need him as the replacement to Xavi/iniesta. Proud

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Post by Jonathan28 Mon Apr 20, 2015 1:39 pm

Hapless_Hans wrote:I hate to have to continue to bring this up, but ... transfer ban


lol, transfer ban doesn't stop us from buying players only from registering them until January 2016, FIFA have already said this.
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Post by Hapless_Hans Mon Apr 20, 2015 1:41 pm

Yes I know, but still, what are you saying?

You'll buy Pogba but not register him lol?

What a load of nonsense.
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Post by Jonathan28 Mon Apr 20, 2015 1:42 pm

Hapless_Hans wrote:Yes I know, but still, what are you saying?

You'll buy Pogba but not register him lol?

What a load of nonsense.


Loan him to Juve for a season
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Post by Hapless_Hans Mon Apr 20, 2015 1:43 pm

You can't loan out a player without registering him first, if the info BC gave is correct.
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Mon Apr 20, 2015 2:12 pm

Hans it's not exactly difficult. Sign the player but agree not to let the transfer go through till January 2016.

If both clubs agreed it can and has happened, not that i believe it will as i think he'll stay with Juve.
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Post by Mr Nick09 Mon Apr 20, 2015 2:13 pm

barca need pogba more or verratti?
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Mon Apr 20, 2015 2:14 pm

I'd argue both but i don't think they'll get either.
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Post by Hapless_Hans Mon Apr 20, 2015 2:35 pm

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:Hans it's not exactly difficult. Sign the player but agree not to let the transfer go through till January 2016.

If both clubs agreed it can and has happened, not that i believe it will as i think he'll stay with Juve.


well obviously they can make whatever deals they want regarding later dates, but still they can't 'sign' the player in summer, unless he's willing to forfeit professional football for half a year.
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Post by futbol Mon Apr 20, 2015 3:21 pm

Mr Nick09 wrote:barca need pogba more or verratti?


Verratti is the superior talent. Pogba is the random big guy with fancy footwork and random long range goals in a tier 5 league. But Verratti can't be bought from PSG. It's impossible.

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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Mon Apr 20, 2015 3:34 pm

Hapless_Hans wrote:
Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:Hans it's not exactly difficult. Sign the player but agree not to let the transfer go through till January 2016.

If both clubs agreed it can and has happened, not that i believe it will as i think he'll stay with Juve.


well obviously they can make whatever deals they want regarding later dates, but still they can't 'sign' the player in summer, unless he's willing to forfeit professional football for half a year.


Yes they can, Italian clubs have consistently bought Brazilians in the summer and not had them join till the January and they still played for that club till January.
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Post by Mr Nick09 Mon Apr 20, 2015 3:42 pm

Fußball wrote:
Mr Nick09 wrote:barca need pogba more or verratti?


Verratti is the superior talent. Pogba is the random big guy with fancy footwork and random long range goals in a tier 5 league. But Verratti can't be bought from PSG. It's impossible.
humm I would go the other way around. Pogba is thr superior individual talent. He can do more on its own, including win them for his team.

Verratti however can have a lot more influence on games from deep but he cant win games by himself.
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Post by BarrileteCosmico Mon Apr 20, 2015 3:47 pm

Jonathan28 wrote:
Hapless_Hans wrote:Yes I know, but still, what are you saying?

You'll buy Pogba but not register him lol?

What a load of nonsense.

Loan him to Juve for a season
This myth needs to die. If Barca can't register a player then he can't be loaned out, becuase in order to be loaned to a different club he needs to be registered at the home club first.
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Post by futbol Mon Apr 20, 2015 3:51 pm

Mr Nick09 wrote:
Fußball wrote:
Mr Nick09 wrote:barca need pogba more or verratti?


Verratti is the superior talent. Pogba is the random big guy with fancy footwork and random long range goals in a tier 5 league. But Verratti can't be bought from PSG. It's impossible.
humm I would go the other way around. Pogba is thr superior individual talent. He can do more on its own, including win them for his team.

Verratti however can have a lot more influence on games from deep but he cant win games by himself.


Pogba is a better goalscorer but that doesn't make him a better individual talent for me given the position we're talking about. Unless you would also say Gerrard is a superior individual talent than Xavi because he's more likely to unleash a long range rocket goal. I'd rather have someone who can conduct the midfield like Verratti instead of an all-action guy like Pogba. Pogba would only work as an Iniesta replacement. Actually alongside Verratti I'd take him and it would be perfect. But if it's between the two I take Verratti everytime.

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Post by futbol Mon Apr 20, 2015 3:54 pm

BarrileteCosmico wrote:
Jonathan28 wrote:
Hapless_Hans wrote:Yes I know, but still, what are you saying?

You'll buy Pogba but not register him lol?

What a load of nonsense.

Loan him to Juve for a season
This myth needs to die. If Barca can't register a player then he can't be loaned out, becuase in order to be loaned to a different club he needs to be registered at the home club first.


He doesn't need to be literally loaned. Barca can make a deal this summer where they already pay (some of) the money but agree that Pogba joins in January. The same practically happened with Neymar. Don't see what's the big deal.

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Post by BarrileteCosmico Mon Apr 20, 2015 4:03 pm

But what's the point of that? Barca would be locking itself for a contract and Pogba has 6 months to get injured. It wouldn't benefit Barca at all to sign him over the summer, or even start making payments, before they can bring him over completely.

Also, as a rule, it's generally a bad idea to bring people over the winter break because they don't have enough time to adapt. Better to give them a pre-season to adjust, get used to the new role and country, etc, rather than being thrown straight into the fire.
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Post by farfan Mon Apr 20, 2015 4:03 pm

Madrid should buy both Verratti and Pogba in the summer after Selling bale .
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Post by Valkyrja Mon Apr 20, 2015 4:03 pm

Fußball wrote:
Mr Nick09 wrote:barca need pogba more or verratti?


Verratti is the superior talent. Pogba is the random big guy with fancy footwork and random long range goals in a tier 5 league. But Verratti can't be bought from PSG. It's impossible.


Watch Uncle Flo in action Laughing
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Post by farfan Mon Apr 20, 2015 4:06 pm

-------Benzema----Cristiano------

--------------James--------------
---Pogba----------------Verratii
--------------Kroos--------------

bench : Isco , Modric , Casimero .

MAKE IT HAPPEN !
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Post by Hapless_Hans Mon Apr 20, 2015 4:13 pm

BarrileteCosmico wrote:But what's the point of that? Barca would be locking itself for a contract and Pogba has 6 months to get injured. It wouldn't benefit Barca at all to sign him over the summer, or even start making payments, before they can bring him over completely.

Also, as a rule, it's generally a bad idea to bring people over the winter break because they don't have enough time to adapt. Better to give them a pre-season to adjust, get used to the new role and country, etc, rather than being thrown straight into the fire.


Exactly. Not to mention cup tied.

My point would be that with the transfer ban which means any 'transfer' could only refer to preagreements over a transfer in 2016, the elections coming up, any transfer rumours should be taken with a few million extra grains of salt, on top of the already oversalted stew that transfer rumours are by default.

Why would either club or player commit to such a deal now, with so many variables?
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Post by farfan Mon Apr 20, 2015 4:21 pm

Madrid should make it their mission to snatch every single Barça target .
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Post by futbol Mon Apr 20, 2015 4:27 pm

farfan wrote:Madrid should make it their mission to snatch every single Barça target .


"Should make"? It's already happening. Half the Madrid squad was posing with Barca jerseys or cheering on Barca in social media before they decided to wear the toilet paper coloured jersey. Actually you guys should rename to "Barca Fanclub CF" or something.

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