With Hazard firmly establishing himself as a Top 3 player this season, what next for the Belgian Genius?

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Post by Gil Fri May 29, 2015 5:12 pm

farfan wrote:
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Hazard wasn't more important, or better, than old man Terry on his own team..


this doesn't even merit a serious response .


When did you become a Madrid fan mate? Laughing

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Post by Gil Fri May 29, 2015 5:14 pm



With Hazard proving GL wrong this season. It might be time to move on to hyping this guy instead.

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hmm
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Post by farfan Fri May 29, 2015 5:19 pm

Gil wrote:
farfan wrote:
windkick wrote:

Hazard wasn't more important, or better, than old man Terry on his own team..


this doesn't even merit a serious response .


When did you become a Madrid fan mate? Laughing


well , some overreaching mod decided what team i support .

totally unconstitutional and should be illegal if you ask me .
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Post by farfan Fri May 29, 2015 5:20 pm

Gil wrote:

With Hazard proving GL wrong this season. It might be time to move on to hyping this guy instead.

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hmm


if we follow Mole's logic of " only CL KO matches are relevant in rating a player ", then that guy is already better than Hazard . hmm
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Post by windkick Fri May 29, 2015 5:23 pm

Blue wrote:LMAO whenever i need a good laugh i come to this forum. Proud

Seriously some of the thing you guys are saying are the same crap you guys said in the beginning of the season. "Not better then Sanchez," "Not better then ADM," "Not Chelsea best player" bla bla bla. It is undoubted at the moment he is the best player in the PL and at Chelsea. Not questionable just like the shape of the earth........it is round for those people who are slow.
BarrileteCosmico wrote:I'm not even convinced he is currently better than Tevez


Geez Florentina are building Salah a statue atm, he couldn't even get on the pitch at Chelsea. pls BC you are a better poster then that.


Styles make fights they say, and that also applies to football. ADM might of been crap under LVG, but he excelled allot more than Hazard did under Mou.

And you could argue Alexis was more important for Arsenal than what Hazard was for Chelsea.

Not even bothering posting in this trash thread anymore.
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Post by Curtinho Fri May 29, 2015 5:52 pm

Carrasco would get more hype if he weren't playing in Ligue 1. A very good player indeed.
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Post by BarrileteCosmico Fri May 29, 2015 5:54 pm

Blue wrote:
BarrileteCosmico wrote:I'm not even convinced he is currently better than Tevez


Geez Florentina are building Salah a statue atm, he couldn't even get on the pitch at Chelsea. pls BC you are a better poster then that.


My count was mostly tongue in cheek but your counter logic is deeply flawed. There are a number of reasons players can fail at Chelsea and still be very good players, would you also suggest that KDB in spite of also failing there?
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Post by Valkyrja Fri May 29, 2015 5:54 pm

Hazard is better than Robben and Suarez. I would also argue that James is...

Messi, Ronaldo, Neymar, Hazard, James/Suarez/Robben are top 5.
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Post by futbol Fri May 29, 2015 6:10 pm

Valkyrja wrote:Hazard is better than Robben and Suarez. I would also argue that James is...

Messi, Ronaldo, Neymar, Hazard, James/Suarez/Robben are top 5.


Your perception of players is very weird at times. Do you even realize how similar Hazard and Ribery are yet you aren't rating Ribery at all from what I remember while rating Hazard so highly.

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Post by Hapless_Hans Fri May 29, 2015 6:18 pm

Hazard isn't fit to lace Ribéry's boots tbh. Yet.
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Post by Onyx Fri May 29, 2015 6:22 pm

--------------Aguero
----Hazard------------James
--------Verratti----Modric
----------------Kroos

hmm

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Post by zigra Fri May 29, 2015 6:25 pm

Hazard better than Suarez and Robben hmm




LOOOOOOOOOOOOL
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Post by Curtinho Fri May 29, 2015 6:27 pm

Hazard better than Suarez and Robben. Laughing

Suarez eats Hazard for breakfast and Robben runs circles around him.
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Post by Bankz Fri May 29, 2015 6:39 pm

I'm still wondering any coach in the world who would seriously consider buying hazard before any of these players. Messi, Ronaldo, Neymar, Suarez, Robben, Aguero, James. in fact when teams are built around these aforementioned guys it becomes painfully obvious how much better they are that its almost a troll attempt to compare him to them.
long story short, Hazard comfortably isn't a top 5 player and I don't know why its that hard to figure out.
Gil looking for attention while making hazard seem almost relevant in a Balon D'or discussion. i doubt hazard cracks top 10 this year.
inb4baleeliminateshazardandBelgiuminqualifers.

Poor attempt Gil, try next time.
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Post by Hapless_Hans Fri May 29, 2015 7:00 pm

I have to say though, even if a player is not 'top 3' or 'top 5', doesn't mean he can't be really, really good.

This is a completely silly discussion, once again provoked by Gil who seems to like making threads where he's practically asking us to abuse Hazard Laughing
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Post by Harmonica Fri May 29, 2015 7:09 pm

Lmao Ganso removing the CL-flop post. Laughing

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Hazard overall game has already well surpassed Cronaldo, now he just needs goals to make the casual fans to understand it.
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Post by M99 Fri May 29, 2015 7:18 pm

So do you also think that Nani and Casemiro are better than Ronaldo, Suarez and Neymar?
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Post by Harmonica Fri May 29, 2015 7:19 pm

M99 wrote:So do you also think that Nani and Casemiro are better than Ronaldo, Suarez and Neymar?
They played better in CL on average, why not?
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Post by zigra Fri May 29, 2015 7:26 pm

If whoscored says so, no one can complain imo hmm
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Post by M99 Fri May 29, 2015 7:26 pm

Like hell they did Laughing Hazard could not go past 10 men PSG while Suarez made them his bitch in the quarters and Neymar  did the same with Bayern (along with Messi) who gave Casemiro a sound beating. I don't even know why I'm debating something so damn obvious, it is ludicrous to think that Casemiro, Nani and Hazard played better in the CL than Suarez, Neymar and Ronaldo just because WhoScored has some stats saying so. Of course any stat which has Messi at 1 (he is actually number 1 in this case) and Ronaldo a significant distance below is gospel to you Rolling Eyes
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Post by Harmonica Fri May 29, 2015 7:30 pm

Statistics don't care who are you against, players have good days and bad days and everything between. But stats don't care, they take the average of your performance, which is the most relative comparison you can make.
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Post by Hapless_Hans Fri May 29, 2015 7:32 pm

whoscored ratings are the single most silly thing in today's football.
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Post by Harmonica Fri May 29, 2015 7:34 pm

Yes, the fact that the other advances the game 3.5 times more individually than the other is silly, yet the same people quote how many tap-in's somebody poached after his team gang bang fed him 93 minutes straight. rofl
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Post by Onyx Fri May 29, 2015 7:37 pm

Casemiro a top 4 player on WhoScored. Maybe we don't need to buy a DM after all. hmm

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Post by zigra Fri May 29, 2015 7:39 pm

In the past even multibillion-dollar companies failed to use (correct) numbers they had the right way and made huge losses because of that and of course it still happens and will continue to happen in the future.
But of course that can't happen to whoscored.com. The rating is perfect and Messi has been 6.66% better than Hazard who has been 1.43% better than Nani hmm
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Post by Freeza Fri May 29, 2015 7:39 pm

Yohan Modric wrote:Casemiro a top 4 player on WhoScored. Maybe we don't need to buy a DM after all. hmm


We're selling him to Porto I think, with a buy-back.
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