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Post by S Tue 23 Jun 2015, 20:34

Monaco value Abdennour at €25m according to Fraudullà.Juve, Roma and Milan interested.

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Post by Curtinho Tue 23 Jun 2015, 20:35

Yes you do. Carrasco is legit.
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Post by Kaladin Tue 23 Jun 2015, 20:37

S wrote:Monaco value Abdennour at €25m according to Fraudullà.Juve, Roma and Milan interested.


pls Galliani, 25m is paltry for a defender these days. Especially, one who is relatively young (25) and has European pedigree
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Post by farfan Tue 23 Jun 2015, 20:45

El Cujo wrote:Yes you do. Carrasco is legit.


drop the hipster act please , you hardly know the player .

his thread in the biggest As Monaco forum is " Yannick Carrasco - manque de régularité " which means " lack of consistency " . Laughing and most of the posts are echoing the same criticism i made about him .

but hey , how dare we argue against your combined youtube/ 4 cl matches / football manager/ fifa wisdom .
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Post by Curtinho Tue 23 Jun 2015, 21:02

So because a young player is inconsistent that makes him bad? Laughing

Who said you couldn't have a different opinion? You're the one that seems to be so offended that I actually think he's a quality player and would be a good pick-up. Last time I checked I didn't try and personally attack you over it. I think maybe you need to reflect on that, no need to be so insecure...generally the first person to jump to attacks about youtube/fm/fifa is the person most used to using those tools in my experience.

Of course my experience is only on youtube, FIFA and FM so I could be off.

Also one of the most recent posts in that forum:

Difficile de lui en vouloir pour cette fin de saison quand même. Le mec a quand même était monstrueux durant 80% de la saison. C'est pas un robot, il fatigue. En plus ce n'est que sa première saison complète en L1 et il n'a que 21 ans. Je comprend qu'il puisse agacé, moi-même il m'énerve beaucoup des fois, mais j'en vois demander son départ et je trouve ça ridicule...

There are plenty of posts in there praising him, too. Surely, being 'monstrous' for 80% of the season is bad for a 21 year old, aye? This guy is probably another one of those youtube/FM/FIFA kings.
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Post by Kaladin Tue 23 Jun 2015, 21:50

Official: Roma take 100% ownership of Andrea Bertolacci for €8.5m

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Post by S Tue 23 Jun 2015, 21:56

Carlo Laudisa carlolaudisa @ # Pirlo chose to leave immediately #Juve: will play in New York
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Post by S Tue 23 Jun 2015, 21:59

Monaco have offered €15m for Destro according to Laudisa
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Post by Robespierre Tue 23 Jun 2015, 22:00

I don't rate Carrasco too , frustrating player
I r emind Ranieri said he was best player in the world Laughing
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Post by farfan Tue 23 Jun 2015, 22:01

El Cujo wrote:So because a young player is inconsistent that makes him bad? Laughing

Who said you couldn't have a different opinion? You're the one that seems to be so offended that I actually think he's a quality player and would be a good pick-up. Last time I checked I didn't try and personally attack you over it. I think maybe you need to reflect on that, no need to be so insecure...generally the first person to jump to attacks about youtube/fm/fifa is the person most used to using those tools in my experience.

Of course my experience is only on youtube, FIFA and FM so I could be off.

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because a player is inconsistent it makes him a bad replacement for a departing inconsistent player ( Gervinho ) in a team looking to battle for the title and make a deep run in the CL .

the first time YFC was brought up this summer i pointed out that he was inconsistent and suffers from the same lack of intelligence in the final third as Gervinho .
your response was a dismissive , smuggish , not-bothered-to-make-a single-argument " not really " .

i then simply proceeded to let you know that your opinion contradicts the one held by the majority of people who watch him every week , which is an easily provable fact if you bothered checking out some Monaco and Belgium forums, and that your opinion was probably based on some limited sample like the CL or virtual reality like FIFA .

so yeah, replacing Gervinho with an inconsistent winger with low footy IQ is a bad idea and hardly an improvement if not a downgrade .

here are plenty of posts in there praising him, too. Surely, being 'monstrous' for 80% of the season is bad for a 21 year old, aye? This guy is probably another one of those youtube/FM/FIFA kings.

he was good in 80 % of the season according to one poster, and an inconsistent headless chicken to at least 80 % of the forum . Laughing

between the 3 months where he played like utter crap, and the months spent on the bench behind scurbs like Dirar , i'd say the 80% is pretty generous .
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Post by Robespierre Tue 23 Jun 2015, 22:02

Mancini has the numbers of all plyers in the world I think , curious to read his Whatsapp address book
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Post by RealGunner Tue 23 Jun 2015, 22:03

Cech nearly done :bow:
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Tue 23 Jun 2015, 22:09

Nearly done isn't done IMO.
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Post by farfan Tue 23 Jun 2015, 22:10

Robespierre wrote:Mancini has the numbers of all plyers in the world I  think , curious to read his Whatsapp address book


i'm more curious about the languages used to communicate . Laughing
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Post by Robespierre Tue 23 Jun 2015, 22:13

Laughing Frosties
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Post by Curtinho Tue 23 Jun 2015, 22:13

You were comparing him, as a 21 year old, to a departing Gervinho who is 28 and has essentially disappointed at every stop outside of France. Yes, while he could be inconsistent, he was also the best offensive player for a top 3 team in L1 and the team that knocked out Arsenal from the CL (I'm aware he barely featured in those matches). He also earned his call-up for the NT despite nursing injury and was pretty prolific in one of the tightest defensive leagues in Europe.

The thing is that you aren't buying the finished product there, but he will already step in and be better than Gervinho most likely, and Gervinho was not bad for Roma (yes, inconsistent). So you replace that player with a 21 year old that is extremely talented, with a lot of potential still, and that is bad why? If he can carry Monaco's offence for a large part of the season (even ignore the 80%) he can certainly provide a spark to Roma when not asked to be the main man.

Anyway the point to quoting that wasn't that there weren't others that thought he was a 'headless chicken' as you put it, but that not everyone views him as you do. Many in Belgium and someone I know who works with youth in France rate him quite highly in fact. His stats speak for themselves really on a really poor offensive team so they don't even need to be referenced. I would take Carrasco at Liverpool in a heartbeat, and in a few years he will probably go for a massive fee somewhere if he continues his progression.


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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Tue 23 Jun 2015, 22:15

Robespierre wrote:Laughing Frosties


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Post by B-Mac Tue 23 Jun 2015, 22:37

Mr Nick09 wrote:
RED wrote:Straight swap for De Gea.

We shouldn't give Real Madrid any money on top of this potential transfer.

Woodward playing RM at their own game. You take one of our key players, we'll unsettle and take one of yours.

It helps that DDG is classy enough not to kick up a fuss and push for a move. If all else falls through, I can see him remaining at Utd for one more year....by then RM may be banned from transfers.

The ball is in our court.





the ball in your court lmao,

you will sell de gea want it or not lol

and ramos is most likely using u to get a new contract, although, i dont see many fans crying because he would be leaving.

by selling u ramos bsically we are getting De Gea + Money to buy someone like Otamendi rofl ball in your court Laughing


except nobody giving you De Gea + money for *bleep* Ramos Laughing

so you can kill that pipe dream

can't wait till we sign Otamendi and keep De Gea and you stuck with Casillas and Ramos on a pay raise another year Proud
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Post by Freeza Tue 23 Jun 2015, 22:39

Ramos is actually considered by the casual fan to be worth 150m€ so it's not ridiculous.

We'll get De Gea and keep Ramos though, it's happening.
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Post by B-Mac Tue 23 Jun 2015, 22:44

Freeza wrote:Ramos is actually considered by the casual fan to be worth 150m€ so it's not ridiculous.

We'll get De Gea and keep Ramos though, it's happening.


i'll gladly lose De Gea for nothing next year tbh...we don't need the cash
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Post by Freeza Tue 23 Jun 2015, 22:47

B-Mac wrote:
Freeza wrote:Ramos is actually considered by the casual fan to be worth 150m€ so it's not ridiculous.

We'll get De Gea and keep Ramos though, it's happening.


i'll gladly lose De Gea for nothing next year tbh...we don't need the cash


Well, we're dealing with humans here and not CPU players. If a player wants out, I'd rather cash in on him and actually have a GK that's happy to play for my club.
I would take 30m€ above some leaving for free.

Losing Khedira for free after that 40m€ bid Laughing
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Post by farfan Tue 23 Jun 2015, 22:49

it's cute when fans of big teams with a bottomless pit of money worry about the price of a signing or whether their team makes a profit on a sale or not .
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Post by B-Mac Tue 23 Jun 2015, 22:50

Freeza wrote:
B-Mac wrote:
Freeza wrote:Ramos is actually considered by the casual fan to be worth 150m€ so it's not ridiculous.

We'll get De Gea and keep Ramos though, it's happening.


i'll gladly lose De Gea for nothing next year tbh...we don't need the cash


Well, we're dealing with humans here and not CPU players. If a player wants out, I'd rather cash in on him and actually have a GK that's happy to play for my club.
I would take 30m€ above some leaving for free.

Losing Khedira for free after that 40m€ bid Laughing


De Gea isn't unhappy tho...he hasn't made a fuss at all

he has a contract and by all accounts he is willing to honour it, he is not pushing a move, he is just not signing a new contract

it is up to the club to decide if they want the money for him now or just let him play out his contract
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Post by Curtinho Tue 23 Jun 2015, 22:50

Supposedly Liverpool have signed Firmino.

https://mobile.twitter.com/SkySportsNewsHQ/status/613444490683117568
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Post by RedOranje Tue 23 Jun 2015, 23:11

1) Agreeing a deal with the current owning club is not signing a player, a lot still has to happen between there.

2) It's "Sky Sources" which means it has as much (or more) chance of being complete nonsense as it does being accurate.


Don't go getting too excited just yet.
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Post by Myesyats Tue 23 Jun 2015, 23:12

El Cujo wrote:Supposedly Liverpool have signed Firmino.

https://mobile.twitter.com/SkySportsNewsHQ/status/613444490683117568

Great signing if true.

Also, according to Diego Torres from El País, Pérez is bent on getting rid of Casillas and Ramos. I really hope Ramos ends up at United tbh
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