The Official WWE Thread - Part 29
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Re: The Official WWE Thread - Part 29
by zizzle Thu Sep 08, 2016 3:00 pm
I heard he's off SD because he's filming a TV series or whatever
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Re: The Official WWE Thread - Part 29
by Great Leader Sprucenuce Thu Sep 08, 2016 3:07 pm
Specifically he's filming American Grit and the night Backlash happens he's in China.
Both factors mean keeping him off TV makes sense imo.
Both factors mean keeping him off TV makes sense imo.
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Re: The Official WWE Thread - Part 29
by Great Leader Sprucenuce Thu Sep 08, 2016 3:09 pm
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He's booked for the shows after Backlash. It wouldn't surprise me if he interferes in the AJ-Ambrose match.
Pretty sure I read he's doing a house show in China or somewhere miles away lol.
Ambrose and AJ will end clean either way imo.
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Re: The Official WWE Thread - Part 29
by Great Leader Sprucenuce Thu Sep 08, 2016 3:48 pm
I mean it would make sense considering the only other guys to Beat Cena twice in singles competition in last 5 years is Lesnar and Punk.
I just don't think they want to take the belt off Ambrose yet but from a booking sense the whole thing would be a bit non sensical.
They have backed themselves into a corner that they don't want to deal with this early, on one hand you have Ambrose who to me has been impressive since becoming champion and on the other you have the guy who they put over massively at Summerslam.
I basically agree with Cas said before that Ambrose reign would be too short but at the same time I'm not sure you can have him beat the guy who kicked out of a top rope AA lol.
This is a corner I don't believe they wanted to be in but now they are they have to deal with it.
I just don't think they want to take the belt off Ambrose yet but from a booking sense the whole thing would be a bit non sensical.
They have backed themselves into a corner that they don't want to deal with this early, on one hand you have Ambrose who to me has been impressive since becoming champion and on the other you have the guy who they put over massively at Summerslam.
I basically agree with Cas said before that Ambrose reign would be too short but at the same time I'm not sure you can have him beat the guy who kicked out of a top rope AA lol.
This is a corner I don't believe they wanted to be in but now they are they have to deal with it.
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Re: The Official WWE Thread - Part 29
by M99 Thu Sep 08, 2016 4:23 pm
Have Ambrose beat him here, AJ beats Ambrose at No Mercy, triple threat AJ vs Ambrose vs Cena at Survivor Series.
Simple.
Simple.
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Re: The Official WWE Thread - Part 29
by Great Leader Sprucenuce Thu Sep 08, 2016 4:35 pm
That doesn't make sense though imo, also what reason is for the rematch if AJ loses lol.
He'd have no right to one logically
He'd have no right to one logically
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Re: The Official WWE Thread - Part 29
by Tomwin Lannister Thu Sep 08, 2016 4:41 pm
Guess they'd need to have AJ win via accidental DQ or countout in this match, demand a rematch and win that.
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Re: The Official WWE Thread - Part 29
by M99 Thu Sep 08, 2016 4:44 pm
Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:That doesn't make sense though imo, also what reason is for the rematch if AJ loses lol.
He'd have no right to one logically
Lol they can easily write that. Have a Number 1 contenders fatal 4 way at Smackdown that AJ wins, or AJ just attacks Ambrose and goods him to a match.
Backlash card is really thin, only going to see the main event. Didn't help that this only had 2 weeks of build.
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Re: The Official WWE Thread - Part 29
by Great Leader Sprucenuce Thu Sep 08, 2016 4:46 pm
That might work but personally I find the idea of Ambrose winning then losing it the following month to the same guy he just beat to not make much sense.
Maybe I'm overthinking this stuff though lol.
Maybe I'm overthinking this stuff though lol.
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Re: The Official WWE Thread - Part 29
by Kaladin Thu Sep 08, 2016 4:48 pm
Cena should make an appearanceduring AJ-Ambrose, AJ loses because of him, demands a rematch, wins it
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Re: The Official WWE Thread - Part 29
by Great Leader Sprucenuce Thu Sep 08, 2016 4:51 pm
I agree on the card mind you, looks like a standard brand exclusive PPV tbh.
I'll probably watch it anyway but I'm meh on it for sure, only main event interests me tbh.
I'll probably watch it anyway but I'm meh on it for sure, only main event interests me tbh.
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Re: The Official WWE Thread - Part 29
by M99 Thu Sep 08, 2016 5:46 pm
Randy Orton vs Bray Wyatt looks good on paper but the build up has just been both of them cutting standard promos lol.
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Re: The Official WWE Thread - Part 29
by Tomwin Lannister Thu Sep 08, 2016 5:48 pm
At this point Bray looks like shit, first they ruin his backwoods anti authority gimmick by making him pseudo undertaker, then they job out him and his family, split them and put him on a solo path all the while booking him like shit.
And Randy is coming off of a beating after coming back from injury. He's not exactly carrying red hot momentum.
WWE dun goof'd
And Randy is coming off of a beating after coming back from injury. He's not exactly carrying red hot momentum.
WWE dun goof'd
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Re: The Official WWE Thread - Part 29
by zizzle Thu Sep 08, 2016 8:24 pm
Yea typical WWE, booking 2 guys who both need a win against one another, then wonder why they're not making new starts
on the other hand Strowman is getting a monster push that Brey never dreamed off, for some reason being big and scary is not enough, you need to suck in the ring and be horrible on the mic to get pushed.
on the other hand Strowman is getting a monster push that Brey never dreamed off, for some reason being big and scary is not enough, you need to suck in the ring and be horrible on the mic to get pushed.
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Re: The Official WWE Thread - Part 29
by Casciavit Thu Sep 08, 2016 10:24 pm
Am I the only one who likes Strowman?
GOAT look. no homo.
GOAT look. no homo.
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Re: The Official WWE Thread - Part 29
by Casciavit Sat Sep 10, 2016 9:49 pm
Betting odds
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- AJ Styles -1200 vs Dean Ambrose +600
Becky -650 vs Nikki +420 vs vs Natalya +3500 vs Bliss +4000 vs Carmella +5500 vs Naomi +5500
Slater & Rhyno -650 vs Usos +450
Randy Orton -900 vs Bray Wyatt +500
Ziggler -600 vs Miz +400
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welp
Looks like AJ is going to go on an unbeaten run until he drops the title to Cena. Ambrose really shouldn't be dropping the title. It'd give him so much cred if he could beat the guy, Cena couldn't.
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Re: The Official WWE Thread - Part 29
by RealGunner Sat Sep 10, 2016 9:55 pm
AJ is pretty much the face of smackdown. Rightfully so too. I hope he goes on a long run if he wins. But Ambrose is a good champion too so i am not bothered
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Re: The Official WWE Thread - Part 29
by Great Leader Sprucenuce Sat Sep 10, 2016 11:01 pm
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- Beats John Cena twice, something that only Lesnar and Punk in last 5 years have done with one of the wins being massive clean at Summerslam.
He was always going to win, Ambrose has been fantastic on the mic as champion but to be frank you can't go any other way here.
Look at it realistically, they are not going to have him go over Cena clean which so few people have done and then have him lose his championship opportunity.
Was never happening, which is why I said before they have put themselves in a position they didn't want to be in which is their own fault as I honestly believe they didn't want to make Ambrose drop it yet but the situation is unavoidable.
Although considering I been a massive AJ fan since 2005 this is great news for me. This is my MT WM30 moment tbh. Also personally I think it's absolutely amazing he could win it tbh, even when he signed I never thought it was possible.
Ironically at the time I said if he's like Ambrose was at the time, floating between the main event and mid card I'll be happy.
2016 is a weird place.
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Re: The Official WWE Thread - Part 29
by Casciavit Sat Sep 10, 2016 11:12 pm
Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:
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He was always going to win, Ambrose has been fantastic on the mic as champion but to be frank you can't go any other way here.
Look at it realistically, they are not going to have him go over Cena clean which so few people have done and then have him lose his championship opportunity.
Was never happening, which is why I said before they have put themselves in a position they didn't want to be in which is their own fault as I honestly believe they didn't want to make Ambrose drop it yet but the situation is unavoidable.
Although considering I been a massive AJ fan since 2005 this is great news for me. This is my MT WM30 moment tbh. Also personally I think it's absolutely amazing he could win it tbh, even when he signed I never thought it was possible.
Ironically at the time I said if he's like Ambrose was at the time, floating between the main event and mid card I'll be happy.
2016 is a weird place.
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I'm not against him winning the title against Ambrose. I just think the feud should have been stretched out more. I'd have done it like this:
Ambrose barely gets the win against AJ at Backlash
Ambrose disqualifies himself at No Mercy (double turn)
Ambrose drops the title to AJ at Survivor Series
I think that would have been a great storyline. I guess after that Ambrose could be written off TV and come back with a main event gimmick.
Then you could have AJ go on a roll until Royal Rumble where he drops it to Cena.
Instead, we'll probably get an AJ win at Backlash. A triple threat at No Mercy where AJ will win, and he'll hold the title until whenever Cena comes back. It's definitely going to be the case that no one is going to beat him until Cena does.
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Re: The Official WWE Thread - Part 29
by Great Leader Sprucenuce Sat Sep 10, 2016 11:16 pm
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- I'm not against that Cas, I just wonder how you justify Ambrose winning no matter how barely after the Cena win lol.
From a Kayfabe point of view it doesn't add up, if he was a heel (cheat to win etc) I could think of something creatively but while he's a face I'm struggling here.
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Re: The Official WWE Thread - Part 29
by Casciavit Sat Sep 10, 2016 11:23 pm
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- Because I think it would make him a star. That's all there is to it. All I want are more top players who WWE book as stars.
This has always been my stance. Even with the Reigns cancer push in 2015, I maintained that he should still M.E WM31 over Bryan because Bryan was already a made man.
AJ is always going to be over. He's the most over wrestler with the smarks since Bryan.
I just think that win could make Ambrose more over with the kids/women. We don't really have anyone who is over with that audience bar Cena. More over wrestlers = better match ups.
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Re: The Official WWE Thread - Part 29
by Great Leader Sprucenuce Sat Sep 10, 2016 11:31 pm
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- Well I don't disagree with that
I just don't know from a creative point of view how you get there with Ambrose as a face.
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Re: The Official WWE Thread - Part 29
by Great Leader Sprucenuce Sun Sep 11, 2016 9:12 pm
Apparently Orton is injured and won't be on the show tonight looool.
Absolutely pointless card outside of the main event tbh, if they have any sense they'll make this two hours instead of 3 but they probably won't.
Absolutely pointless card outside of the main event tbh, if they have any sense they'll make this two hours instead of 3 but they probably won't.
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Re: The Official WWE Thread - Part 29
by Great Leader Sprucenuce Sun Sep 11, 2016 11:02 pm
Looooooool kinda wish I watched the SmackDowns back now to see what else I missed.
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