I was in an accident and got retrograde amnesia. My memory has wiped the last 8 seasons.

Kebab wrote:Because luck doesnt work in 38 games.
Compared to 3 knock out stages in CL.
Only CL=overrated
Liga+CL =deserved

truth bombs dropped

also

WOOT WOOT

Preparing to post in this thread:

I'm sure you actually have a better sofa Vlad.

juve_gigi wrote:

Freeza wrote:

juve_gigi wrote:Trolling the Champions League winners. This must be a new low in trolling...

It's just a Champions League trophy. Even Liverpool has one.

Even Aston Villa, Hamburg, Feyenoord, Celtic, PSV, Steaua Buceresti, Red Star Belgrade and Marseille have one. So I guess the trophy is pretty much meaningless..

Those don't count though. Since Madrid had bought 5 of those trophies. Only since 1992. Jiopsi told me so.

Agreed if it happened before I was born it doesn't count imo.

Myesyats wrote:

Kebab wrote:Because luck doesnt work in 38 games.
Compared to 3 knock out stages in CL.
Only CL=overrated
Liga+CL =deserved

truth bombs dropped

also

WOOT WOOT

this is reality. After spending vacation in group stages you have to win 3 games to win CL. And in those 3 games you dont even have the same opponents. Luck choices it. Liga+CL winner is the true champion of the world

Yeah Kebab. I get it and I agree.

You need real men to be the best over 38 games, that's why RM struggles to win the leauge.

La Liga trophies:

Real Madrid - 32
Barcelona - 24

Champions League trophies:

Real Madrid - 11
Barcelona 5

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:Agreed if it happened before I was born it doesn't count imo.

Myesyats wrote:Yeah Kebab. I get it and I agree.

You need real men to be the best over 38 games, that's why RM struggles to win the leauge.

I thought it was because Barca had the greatest player of all time.

Well, I can be wrong.

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:I'm sure you actually have a better sofa Vlad.

I have black dots on my skin and 3D glasses on. This is the essence of what matters. The rest is from the supplier's stock, so it's not my merit.

Freeza wrote:

Myesyats wrote:Yeah Kebab. I get it and I agree.

You need real men to be the best over 38 games, that's why RM struggles to win the leauge.

I thought it was because Barca had the greatest player of all time.

Well, I can be wrong.

I'm sure according to a large part of Madrid's fanbase Ronaldo is the greatest of all time. Definitely debatable.

Myesyats wrote:

Freeza wrote:

Myesyats wrote:Yeah Kebab. I get it and I agree.

You need real men to be the best over 38 games, that's why RM struggles to win the leauge.

I thought it was because Barca had the greatest player of all time.

Well, I can be wrong.

I'm sure according to a large part of Madrid's fanbase Ronaldo is the greatest of all time. Definitely debatable.

Probably the same people who call Ramos the greatest defender in the world.

Myesyats wrote:

Freeza wrote:

Myesyats wrote:Yeah Kebab. I get it and I agree.

You need real men to be the best over 38 games, that's why RM struggles to win the leauge.

I thought it was because Barca had the greatest player of all time.

Well, I can be wrong.

I'm sure according to a large part of Madrid's fanbase Ronaldo is the greatest of all time. Definitely debatable.

PELE - "Cristiano Ronaldo is better than Lionel Messi.  At the moment the best player in the world is Ronaldo. I admire him, if I had to set up a national team he would be my first pick. But in the meantime I feel sorry because today and the last five years, you just mention two big stars. Some years ago, you had a lot of players."

Kommander...  

Actually Pele is the last guy I'd go to for an opinion on that matter despite having been such a great athlete...

Also:

Barcelona and Argentina star Lionel Messi is Pele's 'favourite player'

Pele has named Lionel Messi at the top of his list of all-time best players, ahead of Diego Maradona, while saying he was almost brought to tears by Brazil's World Cup defeat to Germany two years ago.

from ESPN

Let's stop this particular train of thought before it leaves the station

I'm getting on that train dawg and there's no stopping it I tell ya

Myesyats wrote:Actually Pele is the last guy I'd go to for an opinion on that matter despite having been such a great athlete...

Also:

Barcelona and Argentina star Lionel Messi is Pele's 'favourite player'

Pele has named Lionel Messi at the top of his list of all-time best players, ahead of Diego Maradona, while saying he was almost brought to tears by Brazil's World Cup defeat to Germany two years ago.

from ESPN

Brazil legend Pele claims he's never seen ANYONE as good as he was in his prime...

The 75-year-old admitted Lionel Messi and Cristiano Ronaldo are the best players of their generation but refused to say either is the best ever...

Three-time World Cup winner Pele claims he has never seen a footballer play as well as he did in his pomp.

The Brazil legend still thinks of himself as the greatest footballer of all-time, despite the astonishing achievements of Cristiano Ronaldo and Lionel Messi over the past decade.

Asked by Spanish publication Marca if there had ever been a better player than him, Pele was unerring with his response.

"Please forgive my lack of modesty, but I've never seen a player as good as Pele was in 1970," the 75-year-old said.

However, Pele did give Ronaldo and Messi some credit, saying they are the best players of the current era.

The thread got boring very fast.

Alright, I've had enough.

I summon Harmonica.

To provide all the data we need to prove that Messi is the BEST. DIE BESTE. JEST KURWA NAJLEPSZY.

Myesyats wrote:Alright, I've had enough.

I summon Harmonica.

To provide all the data we need to prove that Messi is the BEST. DIE BESTE. JEST KURWA NAJLEPSZY.

Ok, I surrender. You win...

Even the slight threat of HARMONICA derailing this thread with his whoscored charts has me shivering in my sheets...

I accept your apology. (:

Aaand... I think for the sake of health of GL members this thread should be taken down ASAP.

Don't call me James wrote:Sevilla are less defensively solid than Villarreal, worse offensively and pressing wise than Dortmund, and they don't keep possession as well as LVG's philosophy.

Might as well give us the trophy right now. It's gonna get ugly.

Klopp Revolution is upon us.

Poor guy. Guess it's not amnesia, maybe straight madness

League is about consistency; Tournaments are about performing in high pressure situations; both are praiseworthy.

Freeza wrote:

juve_gigi wrote:Trolling the Champions League winners. This must be a new low in trolling...

It's just a Champions League trophy. Even Liverpool has one.

5

Let me try and bring some seriousness to this topic.

I think this is the first time in years where Perez hasn't interfered with transfers and is allowing Zidane to build the team in his image. Madrid haven't gone in for any 'galactico' and they have tried to focus on their weaknesses and are building the team from last season which was a successful campaign however lacked in the league due to some turbulent times early on under Rafa.

Therefore it's interesting to see how Madrid do in the league this season. Chemistry won't be a problem as the team is pretty much the same with 2-3 squad additions. They could sign another defender to cover LB which would only help. Asensio might prove to be the spark James failed to be when they needed one.

However the issue is that it's really difficult for any team to win La Liga till Messi either leaves or retires or declines. Only 2 teams have actually won La liga outside barca in 8 years. Both seasons where Messi wasn't at his best or was injured (think ratregas sabotaged one of the seasons).

Barca are favourites to go into this season but Atletico will be there and so will madrid as always. It will require unreal consistency for Madrid to get the upper hand. Big big task for Zidane.