Ballon D'Or and FiFA WPOY format will return

FIFA and L'Equipe have not renewed their agreement to merge both trophies so we will most likely be back to the old format unless an unexpected changes.

Meaning, journalists will vote for really deserving (hopefully) players now, as we have missed an opportunity this generation to rewards achievements from the likes of Sneijder, Robben, Iniesta, Xavi, etc...

This is a good thing hopefully

Harmonica can you show us who would have won the ballon dor if we had only had journalist voting in the past 5-6 years, ie since that BS started. thank you to be useful for once im sure you will enjoy this request

This is really good. At least other players have a shot at one or the other instead of this boring CR/Messi D'Or

Mr Nick09 wrote:
Harmonica can you show us who would have won the ballon dor if we had only had journalist voting in the past 5-6 years, ie since that BS started. thank you to be useful for once im sure you will enjoy this request

Sneijder and Ribery would have won Balon D Or on 2010 and 2013 iirc

The real Ballon d'Or winners

2010: Sneijder
2011: Messi
2012: Messi
2013: Ribery
2014: Ronaldo
2015: Messi

2014 should have been Manuel Neuer's!

a goalie has to be extraordinary to win it. all due respect to neuer, great goalie, but i felt he should have never even been in the top 3.

rwo power wrote:2014 should have been Manuel Neuer's!

nope. Germans tried to push the wrong player, he wasn't even top 5 most important German players in World cup .

good news

Thank God.  This also means marketing hype players like Pogba will never win it. Come to think of it, he went to United not only for the money but he actually probably believed he could win B D'or with United. Lol

All the awards he's received so far has mostly been unjust. His inclusion in last year's Fifa world X1 was an absolute farce.

The less B D'or is about marketing hype the better.

heffkzar wrote:The real Ballon d'Or winners

2010: Sneijder
2011: Messi
2012: Messi
2013: Ribery
2014: Ronaldo
2015: Messi

I hope they go change it and retroactively award these; I was so upset in 2010.

Not good news, as Perez co. controls most of the media. Madridistas have already been planted in many places like as French and Spanish media positions. If Ballon d'Or was based on relative individual performance, Messi would have won it from 2009 soon 8 times in a row. But everything assosiated to referees, uefa and fifa officials, media voters are controlled already by Perez co. enough.

Case in point, only trophy that they don't have power in is LFP Best Player, because it's voted by coaches and captains who play against Messi every season. Messi has won it everytime, only time he didn't win Perez didn't choose him to the vote pool, so people couldn't vote him. And Liga third Fakenaldo won it even when Messi scored Liga winning goal, which refdrid wrongfully called offside. They've also invented fake trophies for Fakenaldo like MVP and Fan Star awards, for playing like shitbag but being money cow for many fake families.

Football is fake and long dead already.

There's a post on Reddit (link) where this guy apparently claims to have only taken into account the votes from journalists and says this would've been the result (since 2010):

2010 winner: Iniesta
2011 winner: Messi
2012 winner: Messi
2013 winner: Ribéry
2014 winner: Ronaldo
2015 winner: Messi

It remains to be seen, however, if his stats are accurate, so don't take this as absolute truth, for he could be wrong.

BUT assuming this is true, Messi and Ronaldo, if only journalists were allowed to vote, would have had each one less Ballon d'Or, and Iniesta and Ribéry would have had one each.

So it'd still be dominated by Ronaldo and Messi, albeit in a less obvious sort of way.

Sneijder would have edged Iniesta in 2010 on media voting (rightfully so, Iniesta was not deserving of the award that year at all).

Sneijder led Inter to an historic treble where he was the main creative engine. Almost every goal he scored that year was in a big game, or a crucial goal to seal a win (literally almost 0 'stat padding goals'). On top of which he obviously had many, many assists, created many chances where he wasn't credited with an assist, and really had Robben not been a choker at the time he'd have won the WC for Holland because of Sneijder's beautiful throughballs.

Sneijder not winning the Ballon d'Or in 2010 was criminal, but it's even worse when you consider he didn't even make the top 3. Disgusting.

Militto not even being nominated among the top 30 in 2010 is probably the most criminal thing that ever happened with the balon d'or tbh..

Wins league, wins copa italia, wins UCL, wins CWC all while being absolute clutch and being the ultimate best striker in europe yet, not even being among the 32 nominees

Ballon d'or 2010 was just a farce all around.

Curtinho wrote:Sneijder would have edged Iniesta in 2010 on media voting (rightfully so, Iniesta was not deserving of the award that year at all).

This is why I called into question the guy's stats because they go against logic. Three possibilities here:

1) He was biased towards Iniesta and deliberately left out some votes in favor of Sneijder.
2) He inadvertently miscounted the votes.
3) His stats are accurate which means the journalists picked Iniesta over Sneijder that year.

And if the third option is correct then only allowing journalists to vote won't get rid of the bias.

Maybe if I could squeeze out a window of free time this weekend, I might be able to count them myself and verify everything - because honestly, something doesn't quite add up with that guy's stats.

I have said this a millions times on this forum since the 2010 but Xavi was the one who deserved it in 2010.

Iniesta wasn't very good for most of that year and only got votes because well people like him a lot and because he scored the winner.

Repeating something nonsensical million times doesn't make it right. Xavi wasn't the best player of Spain, Villa was, nor the best player of Barcelona, Messi was.

Most scandalous Ballon d'Or was 2013 when Fakenaldo stole it by winning nothing with the help of Fifa corruption. Season when Messi carried Barca to La Liga scoring 21 games straight when the previous record was some random Polish league of 16 like 1920's.

Never said it was, has a much bigger case than most though.

Besides Milito was a bigger reason why Inter won the treble than Sneijder was (if you want to go further the defence is the biggest reason.)

The real farce is why he wasn't at least top 3 that year.

Yes Milito was better than Sneijder at Inter, but they weren't that great, Sneijder doesn't even make whoscored top 20 or Milito top 10 in 09-10, both Lucio and Maicon were listed better from Inter players, and as the best players in Serie-A.

Sneijder 2010 is very overrated, I agree with that. Wouldn't have given him the BdO myself. 2 league goals and 8 assists for a player like him (he IS a player who will produce good numbers if on form, not one of these who don't collect goals and assists) is just not best in the world stuff. He was great in some big games but so where others and he had way too many low showings that year.

Milito did not even make the top 23 on 2010

Harmonica wrote:Repeating something nonsensical million times doesn't make it right. Xavi wasn't the best player of Spain, Villa was, nor the best player of Barcelona, Messi was.
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damn, can't believe i'm agreeing with harmonica, but that part rings very true to me (obviously he goes back to normal programming as the comment goes on). and iniesta has never deserved being called the world's best player, i don't think he's ever even been the second best player on any of the barcelona teams

whilst i thought sneijder not being in the top 3 was a little harsh...i can't say with a straight face that he was the best or most brilliant player that year. if he had gotten it, fine, i won't have said he didn't deserve it. but him not getting it, i don't think was as big a 'crime' as many have made it out to be