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Re: 2017/18 Champions League R16 draw

Post by Harmonica on Thu Nov 23, 2017 2:43 pm

Uefadrid will take either Besiktas or Liverpool with their awful defense. Slightly torn who Perez thinks is easier? hmm Anyway pretty easy way to almost quadruble your villages.

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Re: 2017/18 Champions League R16 draw

Post by S on Thu Dec 07, 2017 6:21 am



United or Spurs pls

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Re: 2017/18 Champions League R16 draw

Post by rincon on Thu Dec 07, 2017 9:12 am

So Chelsea-Barca is the most likely? That sounds like a fun game. Barca would be favorites but Chelsea should put up a fight.

Liverpool is gonna get wrecked unless they get Basel (assuming Madrid wake up).

Roma has a good chance vs most of those.
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Re: 2017/18 Champions League R16 draw

Post by halamadrid2 on Thu Dec 07, 2017 9:15 am

Bring on Citeh. Can't wait to eliminate that fraud coach and hear his excuses when they had 0 shots at goal over two legs
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Re: 2017/18 Champions League R16 draw

Post by The Demon of Carthage on Thu Dec 07, 2017 12:40 pm

Under normal circumstances I wouldn't care about who. Barcelona (or any other team for that matter) gets in the draw. But when your close circle of Barcelona friends keeps whining about Madrid's alledged "favouritism" in the CL, I can't help but disagree, especially when I see this:

Real Madrid's possible opponents: Psg - Man.City - Man.United - Liverpool - Rome - Besiktas.

Barcelona's possible opponents:
Bayern - Chelsea - Shakhtar - Basel - Porto.

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Re: 2017/18 Champions League R16 draw

Post by S on Thu Dec 07, 2017 12:57 pm

Prediction :
Chelsea Vs Barcelona
Juventus Vs Spurs
Bayern Vs Roma
Porto Vs PSG
Basel Vs City
Madrid Vs Liverpool
Sevilla Vs Besiktas
Shakthar Vs United

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Re: 2017/18 Champions League R16 draw

Post by iftikhar on Thu Dec 07, 2017 1:38 pm

@rincon wrote:So Chelsea-Barca is the most likely? That sounds like a fun game. Barca would be favorites but Chelsea should put up a fight.

Liverpool is gonna get wrecked unless they get Basel (assuming Madrid wake up).

Roma has a good chance vs most of those.
We do better against better/bigger teams. :coffee:

How do they calculate those %??? scratch
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Re: 2017/18 Champions League R16 draw

Post by rincon on Thu Dec 07, 2017 2:03 pm

By checking the possible opponents of the teams involved hmm
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Re: 2017/18 Champions League R16 draw

Post by Firenze on Thu Dec 07, 2017 2:29 pm

jesus christ, those second place teams..knockouts are gonna be ridiculous this year, gonna see a lot of top teams crash out

I honestly don't care who we get, such a hot and cold team that we could comfortably beat anyone and also get beaten by any of them, though obviously Porto would be a free ride.

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Re: 2017/18 Champions League R16 draw

Post by Warrior on Thu Dec 07, 2017 2:31 pm

Seems like Chelsea is bound to face Barcelona or PSG every year in Champions League...

Roma vs Basel
Man Utd vs Juve
Liverpool vs Real
Tottenham vs Bayern
Chelsea vs Barca
Man City vs Sevilla
PSG vs Porto
Besiktas vs Waxtap
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Re: 2017/18 Champions League R16 draw

Post by Unique on Thu Dec 07, 2017 3:26 pm

hope we get madrid :coffee:

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Re: 2017/18 Champions League R16 draw

Post by halamadrid2 on Thu Dec 07, 2017 3:36 pm

I don't.....with your defence and GK Benz will get a hattrick and cement his place at Madrid for the next decade. Can't have that
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Re: 2017/18 Champions League R16 draw

Post by The Demon of Carthage on Thu Dec 07, 2017 4:20 pm

ouch

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Re: 2017/18 Champions League R16 draw

Post by iftikhar on Thu Dec 07, 2017 4:56 pm

@rincon wrote:By checking the possible opponents of the teams involved hmm
Then, for example, Liverpool has 16.67% against each team and not 18.91% against Real. hmm
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Re: 2017/18 Champions League R16 draw

Post by Harmonica on Thu Dec 07, 2017 5:05 pm

@iftikhar wrote:
@rincon wrote:By checking the possible opponents of the teams involved hmm
Then, for example, Liverpool has 16.67% against each team and not 18.91% against Real. hmm
You're fairly new at this? Real Madrid has 100% chance for Besiktas/Liverpool, depending what Perez chooses. He might actually take a risk with Liverpool (not with their defense) to not be so obvious, and lessen the mathematical proof of corruption. Then again there's no risk if you plant refs also in there.

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Re: 2017/18 Champions League R16 draw

Post by rincon on Thu Dec 07, 2017 5:22 pm

@iftikhar wrote:
@rincon wrote:By checking the possible opponents of the teams involved hmm
Then, for example, Liverpool has 16.67% against each team and not 18.91% against Real. hmm


You have to consider which opponents the other teams involved can get. You can't just look at 1 team and divide 100% by the number of teams possible because the draw is not symmetric for every team. The limitations of each team in terms of which other teams they can get are different, so you get uneven odds.
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Re: 2017/18 Champions League R16 draw

Post by Winter is Coming on Fri Dec 08, 2017 6:11 am

@The Demon of Carthage wrote:Under normal circumstances I wouldn't care about who. Barcelona (or any other team for that matter) gets in the draw. But when your close circle of Barcelona friends keeps whining about Madrid's alledged "favouritism" in the CL, I can't help but disagree, especially when I see this:

Real Madrid's possible opponents: Liverpool - Rome - Besiktas.

Barcelona's possible opponents: Bayern - Chelsea.

Fixed.

We need to be honest here DoC.

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Re: 2017/18 Champions League R16 draw

Post by Unique on Fri Dec 08, 2017 12:41 pm

@halamadrid2 wrote:I don't.....with your defence and GK Benz will get a hattrick and cement his place at Madrid for the next decade. Can't have that
but look on the bright side. Mane and salah will end the careers of them 2 scrub fullbacks you have.

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Re: 2017/18 Champions League R16 draw

Post by Valkyrja on Fri Dec 08, 2017 12:52 pm

@Unique wrote:
@halamadrid2 wrote:I don't.....with your defence and GK Benz will get a hattrick and cement his place at Madrid for the next decade. Can't have that
but look on the bright side. Mane and salah will end the careers of them 2 scrub fullbacks you have.


scrub fullbacks better than your entire team combined

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Re: 2017/18 Champions League R16 draw

Post by Cruijf on Fri Dec 08, 2017 1:39 pm

@The Demon of Carthage wrote:Under normal circumstances I wouldn't care about who. Barcelona (or any other team for that matter) gets in the draw. But when your close circle of Barcelona friends keeps whining about Madrid's alledged "favouritism" in the CL, I can't help but disagree, especially when I see this:

Real Madrid's possible opponents: Psg - Man.City - Man.United - Liverpool - Rome - Besiktas.

Barcelona's possible opponents:
Bayern - Chelsea - Shakhtar - Basel - Porto.


Who would've thought you get easier opponents if you win your group than if you finish second? :facepalm:

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Re: 2017/18 Champions League R16 draw

Post by Nishankly on Fri Dec 08, 2017 1:43 pm

Hope we get Real, Should be fun exposing them.
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Re: 2017/18 Champions League R16 draw

Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce on Fri Dec 08, 2017 2:05 pm

Never went to hear Madrid fans talking about easy draws for other teams tbh.

You won a CL where your path to the final consisted of Roma, Wolfsburg and Man City ( a Man City who finished 4th no less)

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Re: 2017/18 Champions League R16 draw

Post by The Demon of Carthage on Fri Dec 08, 2017 2:09 pm

@Cruijf wrote:
@The Demon of Carthage wrote:Under normal circumstances I wouldn't care about who. Barcelona (or any other team for that matter) gets in the draw. But when your close circle of Barcelona friends keeps whining about Madrid's alledged "favouritism" in the CL, I can't help but disagree, especially when I see this:

Real Madrid's possible opponents: Psg - Man.City - Man.United - Liverpool - Rome - Besiktas.

Barcelona's possible opponents:
Bayern - Chelsea - Shakhtar - Basel - Porto.


Who would've thought you get easier opponents if you win your group than if you finish second? :facepalm:

That's not necessarily true. For instance, Napoli won their group last year, but they ended up drawing Madrid in the round of 16.

The idea that finishing first guarantees an easy opponent is no longer valid because many top teams nowadays tend to be quite underwhelming in the group stage but they become different beasts once they reach the round of 16.

In this year's CL, you have Madrid, Bayern, Chelsea and Juventus all finishing second. Now, I'm sure you agree with me that a team like Roma who topped their group would rather draw another table topper like Besiktas than drawing any of the aforementioned and second-placed teams.

But this wasn't even my point btw. What I was trying to do, is squash the idea that Madrid gets special treatment in the CL. We may have been lucky at times with the draw, but there's no favoritism involved as shown by all the tough and possible opponents awaiting us in the round of 16.

I hope I've made myself clear Smile

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Re: 2017/18 Champions League R16 draw

Post by BarrileteCosmico on Fri Dec 08, 2017 2:34 pm

It doesn't guarantee anything, but it does make the pool of possible opponents easier

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Re: 2017/18 Champions League R16 draw

Post by Sina Yesterday at 10:24 pm

Barca v Chelsea
Man C v Juve
Bayern v Man utd
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Re: 2017/18 Champions League R16 draw

Post by Mr Nick09 Yesterday at 10:25 pm

preference in order
1-besiktas
2-roma
3-man yoo
4-man city
5-psg
6-pool

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