Re: The 2017/18 Calcio Thread: Part 2

[Robespierre]

Andre Silva is okayish, i had to revise my opinion on him

What could you expect from Portoguese fraud generation ?
Andre Gomes Joao Mario Renato Sanches Andre Silva etc

[Robespierre]

Congrats Milan for beating Lazio, a tough team to beat, seems like the negative spiral is coming to an end. 10 points off 4th place should be a motivation boost now

Meanwhile Inter 1-1 vs SPAL hahahahahahahahahaha winless in 8 games
We killed their self-confidence in that Derby even if they got the draw

No no calma , it was just Tom


Happened after Inter-Chievo 5-0

We're not going to win a single match anymore with him on our club.
Excommunication needed.

[Robespierre]

I haven't idea what is happened to VAR in last 1 month and half though

Insane mistakes even under VAR, goals scored with hand, hands in area not sanctioned, irregular goals on offside
Nothing to do with first period

[Hapless_Hans]

I haven't idea what is happened to VAR in last 1 month and half though

Insane mistakes even under VAR, goals scored with hand, hands in area not sanctioned, irregular goals on offside
Nothing to do with first period

This kind of stuff has happened in Bundesliga all season. It's been rather terrible, at times. VAR needs a lot of work.

[Robespierre]

^ I added that half I don't know why tnh, but It is was so for a month. VAr is not working as it did at the beginning since 6 January
I mean before it was not perfect because you could just reducing mistakes but hell.before it worked indeed
You knew most clear mistakes were corrected. Now you don't feel same certaincy.
Hand goals, offside goals,.hands in area..
That is some bug on system (:

[rincon]

They really got inconsistent about the usage lately. Lazio have probably been the biggest losers with VAR, another 2 points dropped because of a clear incident that seems like the type that VAR is made for.

[Warrior]

Yeah VAR is an absolute mess. Lazio got even robbed against Fio some weeks ago in a match i've seen. On January 3rd Juve scored a goal against Torino that should have been disallowed because of a previous foul 3 seconds before... thankfully for us FIGC are clueless and VAR's implementation doesn't follow any logic.

And to think they want this in Premier League Imagine the dramas...

[Robespierre]

The real problem are refs not VAR tbh

I mean VAR is good introduction, but if it risks to be useless if refs are capable to be wrong even with this instrument

Watching to Crotone Cagliari , that was surreal

Tagliavento disallowed goal even after having watching replay , and that was clearly regular LOL

So VAR gave the enormous chance to change the mistake, but if ref insists on it, wel you must cut ref

Anywyay VAR in last month wasn't used good as at the beginning.

I feel there is the indication to use it less possible now, so as to confirm what the ref did, but for me it is a terrible thing.

I am in favour to change even 10 ref's decisions through VAR if it is needed

[Luca]

VAR is a tool that this class of referees is currently not skilled in utilizing.

It's going to be the next generation of referees that learns to use VAR as a tool in their arsenal to make clearer decisions.

I believe its an ego and an attitude thing. Referees don't want to be undermine or admit that they could be wrong in the moment and players try to play off the fact that there is a higher power to find fouls that they believed to have occurred.

Then there is the cloudy area where a foul could've happened 20 seconds behind the play, or a non-foul is called which leads to a free kick which leads to a goal.

The promise is there. The sport needs it. Even if it gets 1 extra decision correct per match day, those are mistakes and results that have been corrected.

[breva]

Inter is hanging on through the performance of Lazio and Roma. Fourth place is going to be extremely hard to achieve.

[McLewis]

Roma fans calling for EDF's firing are pathetic. Yeah he got found out and hasn't really reacted to that yet, but I think more of this is down to players just quitting on him. There is still too much of Spalletti's footprints all over this team. Another rebuild is coming and while unfortunate, it's necessary.

I'm still behind both EDF and Monchi at this point. EDF must get us qualified for the CL or I don't think he'll be our coach next season though.

What would you change?

Tactically, Nainggolan must play closer to Dzeko so we need the 4-2-3-1 back. That's the formation this team was built for. Under seems like he might be the answer (eventually) at RW so keep playing him or give Gerson some chances there too. Bench Strootman and play just DDR and Pellegrini in the pivot. Shift focus from horizontal passing and building play with our full-backs to more vertical passing to take pressure off the defense and create service for Dzeko, who has proven he can thrive in that type of environment. Moreno needs more time over Jesus if we're not going to play Fazio. Full stop.

Transfers? - With Emerson gone, we need another LB now in case Kolarov finally displays his age. Need another midfielder that can play in the pivot, and an actual RW given that Under is still pretty raw. Might as well bite the bullet and get Berardi.

Mentality - These players need their asses kicked. Ritiro ritiro ritiro until these languid laziness is gone. EDF seems to be far too soft on them and their fitness levels suck.

I'm sure there's more, but can't think of any right now. Brain is done after a 12 hour work day.

[Warrior]

VAR is a tool that this class of referees is currently not skilled in utilizing.

It's going to be the next generation of referees that learns to use VAR as a tool in their arsenal to make clearer decisions.

I believe its an ego and an attitude thing. Referees don't want to be undermine or admit that they could be wrong in the moment and players try to play off the fact that there is a higher power to find fouls that they believed to have occurred.

Then there is the cloudy area where a foul could've happened 20 seconds behind the play, or a non-foul is called which leads to a free kick which leads to a goal.

The promise is there. The sport needs it. Even if it gets 1 extra decision correct per match day, those are mistakes and results that have been corrected.

Nah i don't believe it's only refs bro, sure they deserve part of the blame but not all of it. Our current VAR was set up in a way that adds too much pressure on the main referee's shoulders. Now they even have to call their own errors, makes no sense.

It seems the people who make the video reviews don't understand football rules... no consistency and many calls wrong. + the refs egos/stubbornness you and Rob were talking about, i've agreed on this point.

I just don't believe VAR is meant for a sport such as football. I have some ideas about how it could improve but i can't see FIGC doing something as relevant to change the situation.

[Kaladin]

Riccardo Orochimaru from Atalanta to Bologna (GDM)

[breva]

Gianluca Simeone is going to Frosinone. With two kids in Italy, will Simeone senior soon move too?

[rincon]

Cutrone comes in and immediately does more interesting things than Kalinic all game.

Lazio really figured out Milan since the weekend. Dominating and unlucky to not have scored. Donnarumma kept them alive.

[rincon]

!!!!

Cutrone had it and Strakosha parried, followed by the most incredible miss of the season by Calhanoglu. Its amazing how missed that shot by so much.

[RealGunner]

INCRÍVEL CHANCE DESPERDIÇADA POR CALHANOGLU pic.twitter.com/1cM0iRrE93

— AC Milan Brasil (@ACMilan_Brasil) January 31, 2018

[rincon]

Juve-Sassuolo

Buffon; Alex Sandro, Chiellini, Rugani, De Sciglio; Matuidi, Pjanic, Khedira; Mandzukic, Higuain, Bernardeschi

Consigli; Peluso, Acerbi, Lemos, Lirola; Missiroli, Magnanelli, Duncan; Politano, Babacar, Berardi

[Firenze]

dybala injured/rested or no longer nailed on for you?

[rincon]

Been injured for a long time. Its a race to make it to the CL first leg.

[rincon]

Rekt. 4-0 in the first half.

@CBarca

[Firenze]

Kessie with another assist. Milan fans put some respek on his name. Your best player.

[rincon]

Montella's fraudish ways were killing Kessie. Gattuso has him back on track.

[Luca]

PIPITA

[Luca]

Bonucci and Donnarumma

Absolutely dead

[Guest]

calabria .... sigh... just annoying we lost points now

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