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Post by Kaladin on Wed May 23, 2018 12:56 am

Done deal according to GDM

Some things:
-Hamsik looking increasingly likely to leave (Sky)
-Callejon, Hysaj, Reina and Koulibaly are highly likely to leave as well (Sky)
-Jorginho is going to City (Sky)

It'll be interesting to see how they line up next season

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Re: Ancelotti to Napoli

Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce on Wed May 23, 2018 1:00 am

I would be surprised if THAT many players leave.

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Post by Robespierre on Wed May 23, 2018 1:00 am

Really surprised

But evidently Ancelotti has just realized that he is not rated from European top teams anymore after Bayern flop
so he accepts Napoli
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Re: Ancelotti to Napoli

Post by Firenze on Wed May 23, 2018 1:01 am

Would love to pair Bailly and Koulibaly, the bouncer brothers ffs

PACE AND POWER

Sarri to Chelsea then? Ancelotti is a good appointment but I wouldn't be shocked if Napoli regress heavily if their mercato isn't on point to replace all of those important departures, wouldn't be shocked to see Inter surpass them in the next season

either way congratulations to Juve on another Scudetto in advance
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce on Wed May 23, 2018 1:02 am

@Firenze wrote:
Sarri to Chelsea then?


Another season resurgence Laughing They might not win the league as City will probably be too good but i'd bet they look good again from nowhere as tradition demands.

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Post by Robespierre on Wed May 23, 2018 1:04 am

It's unreal how Napoli ( their attractive power is even overrated. Even if they are a relevant team now, it's always difficult to sign great players .. more than Milanese teams ) never worsens after great losses.

After Cavani (he looked like irreplaceable) and Lavezzi, they sign Higuain Callejon Mertens.

After Sarri ( the real factor for their 91 points ) they sign even Ancelotti

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Post by Firenze on Wed May 23, 2018 1:04 am

Not convinced Sarri is even a a great manager tbh

but it wouldn't surprise me, either way, he can now prove it in a top league
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Post by Robespierre on Wed May 23, 2018 1:05 am

tbf there are rumours on Sarri to Zenit St. Petersburg ffs Laughing

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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce on Wed May 23, 2018 1:06 am

@Robespierre wrote:tbf there are rumours on Sarri to Zenit St. Petersburg ffs Laughing


There were rumors of Rafa going there as well Laughing Some agent is doing some overtime work.

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Re: Ancelotti to Napoli

Post by breva on Wed May 23, 2018 1:31 am

@Robespierre wrote:Really surprised

But evidently Ancelotti has just realized that he is not rated from European top teams anymore after Bayern flop
so he accepts Napoli


Now that's funny. The guy has won everything and now the "flop", which was a blip, at Bayern is not rated anymore. Unai Emery actually lost a French title at PSG and he is rated. Unbelievable.
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Post by Robespierre on Wed May 23, 2018 1:32 am

@breva wrote:
@Robespierre wrote:Really surprised

But evidently Ancelotti has just realized that he is not rated from European top teams anymore after Bayern flop
so he accepts Napoli


Now that's funny. The guy has won everything and now the "flop", which was a blip, at Bayern is not rated anymore. Unai Emery actually lost a French title at PSG and he is rated. Unbelievable.


Rated from who ?

Ancelotti was just sacked by Bayern after a 2nd disater year and Heynckes changed totally Bayern after him. I invented nothing.

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Post by breva on Wed May 23, 2018 2:32 am

You said about Ancelotti "he is not rated from European top teams anymore" that's bs. Did Guardiola win a CL with Bayern? Did Guardiola get Bayern to a CL final? Jupp Heynckes surely did better than both, but why is Ancelotti "not rated" while Guardiola is?
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Post by Doc on Wed May 23, 2018 2:56 am

I wanna assume the phrase "rated by who" was meant for Emery as not many folks actually rate him highly and Arsenal is pretty much his level. As for Carlo, football management is his job so managing Napoli is probably what is available at the moment.

None of the top clubs in Europe are of need of his services so this is probably the next best thing.

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Re: Ancelotti to Napoli

Post by Robespierre on Wed May 23, 2018 3:24 am

@breva wrote:You said about Ancelotti "he is not rated from European top teams anymore" that's bs. Did Guardiola win a CL with Bayern? Did Guardiola get Bayern to a CL final? Jupp Heynckes surely did better than both, but why is Ancelotti "not rated" while Guardiola is?


I am glad you are the Ancelotti agent, but I can just say that he was snubbed from Arsenal Chelsea etc so he is going to take Napoli which is a good club but it is a spare wheel though. Useless thinking about the contrary

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Post by Warrior on Wed May 23, 2018 3:38 am

Or it's Ancelotti who snub both Chelsea and Arsenal... who never dreamed of working under Aurelio De Laurentis ?

I don't understand why he became persona non grata all of a sudden. Sacked for nothing at Real and decent results at Bayern, sacked after a brain cramp in the lineup vs PSG.

Napoli is below his standards. Was expecting Gasperini or someone like that.
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Post by BarrileteCosmico on Wed May 23, 2018 3:45 am

@Robespierre wrote:Really surprised

But evidently Ancelotti has just realized that he is not rated from European top teams anymore after Bayern flop
so he accepts Napoli
Alternatively Napoli were almost champions this year, with a provinciale coach, and if he comes in and can actually get them 4 more points a season he can become a legend and be as highly rated as ever.

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Post by Doc on Wed May 23, 2018 6:09 am

He was sacked at Madrid for failing, yet again, to win La Liga despite being in a commanding position and finishing trophy less. Certainly not a "sack for nothing" scenario. In hindsight, probably should have kept him instead of hiring Rafa but it is what it is.

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Post by ExtremistEnigma on Wed May 23, 2018 8:51 am

@Robespierre wrote:Really surprised

But evidently Ancelotti has just realized that he is not rated from European top teams anymore after Bayern flop
so he accepts Napoli

Well there are no more top teams with vacancy left for him to manage now, he has managed them all once before Laughing
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Post by Robespierre on Wed May 23, 2018 8:58 am

@BarrileteCosmico wrote:
@Robespierre wrote:Really surprised

But evidently Ancelotti has just realized that he is not rated from European top teams anymore after Bayern flop
so he accepts Napoli
Alternatively Napoli were almost champions this year, with a provinciale coach, and if he comes in and can actually get them 4 more points a season he can become a legend and be as highly rated as ever.


Napoli overachieved it this year, they are a good team but 91 points again are unreal
They are a mass of jobbers and good players, but they have no top player
Sarri is probably  provinciale for his communication but not for  his gamestyle
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Post by Casciavit on Wed May 23, 2018 9:05 am

Laughing

A league flop like Ancelotti isn't gonna help Napoli better Sarri's point total, let alone win the league.

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Post by The Demon of Carthage on Wed May 23, 2018 10:56 am

@Casciavit wrote:Laughing

A league flop like Ancelotti isn't gonna help Napoli better Sarri's point total, let alone win the league.

I agree, but it's a pretty good deal for them nonetheless. They're losing a great tactician but they're replacing him with a three-time CL winner. They may not win the league with Carlo (they didn't win it with Sarri either), but they'll improve a lot in Europe.

Kudos to them for pulling this off because Carlo's Resume is too decorated for Napoli and they're certainly overachieving with his appointment.

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Post by rincon on Wed May 23, 2018 12:54 pm

Its a top appointment for Napoli. Can't hope for better. The objective is not to surpass Sarri's point tally. That's not happening. Only them signing Conte or Allegri would signal that and even it would be a huge task.

@Firenze wrote:Not convinced Sarri is even a a great manager tbh

but it wouldn't surprise me, either way, he can now prove it in a top league


^Comments like this underestimate what the 91 points meant. Its unbelievable for Napoli to have done that, and not only that they did it, but that Sarri had put them in a position where we expected them do it and consider it "normal". Like Robes says, Sarri was the main factor of an unreal league campaign.  They lost the league because we have top players and basically two teams.
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Post by rincon on Wed May 23, 2018 1:08 pm

@Robespierre wrote:It's unreal how Napoli ( their attractive power is even overrated. Even if they are a relevant team now, it's always difficult to sign great players .. more than Milanese teams ) never worsens after great losses.

After Cavani (he looked like irreplaceable) and Lavezzi, they sign Higuain Callejon Mertens.

After Sarri ( the real factor for their 91 points ) they sign even Ancelotti


^This is why I'm always complimenting the club in how its run. ADL, Guintoli and co. do an unreal job compared to the rest of Serie A bar Juve. Their coach appointments are ambitious and on point and their signings are usually smart. They really jumped into the power vacuum left by the Milan teams since coming back to A.

Their latest league finishes

Sarri: 2nd 91pts
Sarri: 3rd 86 pts
Sarri: 2nd 82 pts
Benitez: 5th 63 pts
Benitez: 3rd 78 pts
Mazzarri: 2nd 78 pts
Mazzarri: 5th 61 pts
Mazzarri: 3rd 70 pts

Ancelotti's objective will be to keep them in the CL spots fighting for the league and improve them in europe. Except for Benitez' step back they've been on track for a while.

Now they are rumored to sign Leno, Balotelli, Torreira, Verdi. While they look to lose Hamsik (China), Jorginho (City), Reina (Milan?), Mertens?, Koulibaly?.
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Post by S on Wed May 23, 2018 2:42 pm



Vidal and Benzema rofl

Will be shocked if they manage to sign even one of them
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Post by Luca on Wed May 23, 2018 3:08 pm

rofl

Yeah, let's take our strongest point of the team (the 3 man midfield), and scrap it to play Mertens as a pseudo right winger and Benzema #10, WHEWWWWWW

Diawara, Zielinski, Allan, Torreira will surely be central to Ancelotti's plans. I wouldn't be surprised if this is the summer Mertens leaves too
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