Re: New era manager no 2: Who should replace Unai Emery?

by Jay29 Fri Nov 29, 2019 11:18 am

Nuno Espirito Santo est bien la priorité d’#Arsenal pour remplacer Emery. Les discussions ont d’ores et déjà commencé avec son entourage. Le coach portugais est très intéressé. En cas d’accord Arsenal devra indemniser les Wolves.
— Mohamed Bouhafsi (@mohamedbouhafsi) November 29, 2019

Nuno Santo is the priority. Club is talking to his entourage.

Could be another Zaha/Pepe situation. Or could be another underwhelming appointment. We'll see.

All I say is that Sanllehi has good connections to Jorge Mendes.

by Twoism Fri Nov 29, 2019 11:38 am

Nuno as manager screams Raul connection method again. Probably pick up the phone, call his pal Mendes and ask for recommendation. Nuno and Ruben Neves to replace Xhakha in Jan no problem. Ppls talk positively about Nuno but he's in same tier as Unai, decent manager but not someone I can see staying for years and establish an era. When I watch Wolve play, I don't see the excitement or strong philosophy, I see pragmatic team getting the most out of what it has. And he is not overachieving, Wolves is basically lite Portugal at this point.

by RealGunner Fri Nov 29, 2019 11:40 am

Nuno doesn't sound inspiring at all.

by Hapless_Hans Fri Nov 29, 2019 11:45 am

Congratulations are in order.

As for Nuno and the Mendes connection, maybe it could mean that Ruben Neves will follow?

by RealGunner Fri Nov 29, 2019 11:54 am

There has been contact between Arsenal & Massimiliano Allegri. He wants the job. [@SkyKaveh] #afc pic.twitter.com/aVgKP1V7TI
— afcstuff (@afcstuff) November 29, 2019

by El Gunner Fri Nov 29, 2019 11:56 am

RealGunner wrote:Nuno doesn't sound inspiring at all.

true - i can see it more likely turn into another failure.

by El Gunner Fri Nov 29, 2019 11:56 am

RealGunner wrote:
There has been contact between Arsenal & Massimiliano Allegri. He wants the job. [@SkyKaveh] #afc pic.twitter.com/aVgKP1V7TI
— afcstuff (@afcstuff) November 29, 2019

now this.... is the dream

by urbaNRoots Fri Nov 29, 2019 12:00 pm

RealGunner wrote:
There has been contact between Arsenal & Massimiliano Allegri. He wants the job. [@SkyKaveh] #afc pic.twitter.com/aVgKP1V7TI
— afcstuff (@afcstuff) November 29, 2019

Mediocre source, unfortunately.

Let's prepare for Nuno, and if not him, then Arteta. Anyone with non spanish links has no business with Raul Sanllehi.

by RealGunner Fri Nov 29, 2019 12:01 pm

Arteta over Nuno tbh.

by Jay29 Fri Nov 29, 2019 12:21 pm

I incorrectly reported Emery led training - apologies. He arrived to do to but was sacked pre-session. Full details below including USA trip post-Southampton that sealed his fate prior to last night’s game, what happened this morning, Ljungberg’s staff, where Arsenal go next #AFC pic.twitter.com/C6S0SWyFmX
— David Ornstein (@David_Ornstein) November 29, 2019

by Jay29 Fri Nov 29, 2019 12:33 pm

Also this piece from James Olley in the Standard outlines some of the things that went wrong:

https://www.standard.co.uk/sport/football/arsenal-players-unai-emery-sacked-a4300281.html?utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1575028586

- Players were openly mocking Emery after the 1-1 draw to Vitoria, including audible jokes about how many captains there were
- Emery's tactical sessions went on too long as players struggled to grasp what he wanted of them
- He wasn't a good communicator, it seems. Didn't connect with long-term staff at the club, barely interacted with some of the players, and struggled with English
- There was a lack of drills on the training ground to improve the team's defending, which annoyed some of the coaches there
- Emery never really settled in England and returned to Spain frequently

by urbaNRoots Fri Nov 29, 2019 12:42 pm

Since it appears Freddie can manage the team until the summer, stick with him and then look for Tuchel/ten Hag or anyone else who might become available.

Unless you can get Pochettino/Allegri now, you just do it.

by Hapless_Hans Fri Nov 29, 2019 12:53 pm

urbaNRoots wrote:Since it appears Freddie can manage the team until the summer, stick with him and then look for Tuchel/ten Hag or anyone else who might become available.

Unless you can get Pochettino/Allegri now, you just do it.

This plan is blatantly stolen, down to the last detail, from another club

by urbaNRoots Fri Nov 29, 2019 12:55 pm

Hapless_Hans wrote:
urbaNRoots wrote:Since it appears Freddie can manage the team until the summer, stick with him and then look for Tuchel/ten Hag or anyone else who might become available.

Unless you can get Pochettino/Allegri now, you just do it.

This plan is blatantly stolen, down to the last detail, from another club

We‘ll take anyone you don‘t want out of these Laughing

Forgot about Marco Rose, he could be an option too.

by Unique Fri Nov 29, 2019 1:32 pm

i wonder if the next manager will get more than 20 games. hmm

by urbaNRoots Fri Nov 29, 2019 1:33 pm

Unique wrote:i wonder if the next manager will get more than 20 games.

Why do you wonder that?

by Unique Fri Nov 29, 2019 1:35 pm

urbaNRoots wrote:
Unique wrote:i wonder if the next manager will get more than 20 games.

Why do you wonder that?

because arsenal fans seem to turn on a manager faster than madrid fans these days.

by urbaNRoots Fri Nov 29, 2019 1:39 pm

Unique wrote:
urbaNRoots wrote:
Unique wrote:i wonder if the next manager will get more than 20 games.

Why do you wonder that?
because arsenal fans seem to turn on a manager faster than madrid fans these days.

Says the guy who turned on Jürgen fucking Klopp.

OUT.

by Hapless_Hans Fri Nov 29, 2019 1:47 pm

Serious question, would you take Niko Kovac?

by Hapless_Hans Fri Nov 29, 2019 1:49 pm

urbaNRoots wrote:
Hapless_Hans wrote:
urbaNRoots wrote:Since it appears Freddie can manage the team until the summer, stick with him and then look for Tuchel/ten Hag or anyone else who might become available.

Unless you can get Pochettino/Allegri now, you just do it.

This plan is blatantly stolen, down to the last detail, from another club

We‘ll take anyone you don‘t want out of these

Forgot about Marco Rose, he could be an option too.

Rose only started at Gladbach this season, I certainly would be surprised if he moves on so quickly and frankly I'd (from the perspective of a high pressure club) also wait and see how he does over a more meaningful period of time

by El Gunner Fri Nov 29, 2019 1:54 pm

Unique wrote:
urbaNRoots wrote:
Unique wrote:i wonder if the next manager will get more than 20 games.

Why do you wonder that?

urbaNRoots wrote:
Unique wrote:i wonder if the next manager will get more than 20 games.

Why do you wonder that?
because arsenal fans seem to turn on a manager faster than madrid fans these days.

how can you come to this conclusion when we've only had one permanent manager after Wenger thus far?

by Jay29 Fri Nov 29, 2019 2:56 pm

Fabrizio Romano has said Allegri is not an option.

I'd have to say no to Nico Kovac as well. He's seems yet another rigid coach who doesn't know how to control a game and is overly concerned with the opposition.

by El Gunner Fri Nov 29, 2019 3:06 pm

Jay29 wrote:Fabrizio Romano has said Allegri is not an option.

how, what's the reason he has given for that piece of information?

by Jay29 Fri Nov 29, 2019 3:14 pm

He hasn't specified. Only said that Allegri was "not in the race".

I've seen other bits and pieces say he's not ready to return to management yet, and would prefer a return in the summer, but I haven't found a good source for that yet.

Anyway, there's more stuff in the Athletic about Emery's tenure:

- Ramsey had a meeting with him way back at the start of last season, but came away without knowing what his role in the team was
- Ozil was dropped because data showed he made less sprints in away games than he did in home games
- The feeling around the Ozil situation was that he'd outlast Emery
- Koscielny fell out with Emery after he was played five times in the space of two weeks following his achilles injury
- Preparation for the EL final was poor. Arsenal flew out early against the advice of medical staff, and Emery insisted preparation for the game wouldn't begin until after the PL season was finished.
- The team talk for the Palace match last season was delegated to the team's travel coordinator
- Denis Suarez was his personal recommendation and expected to be a key part of his plan, but wasn't played
- Emery wanted Zaha, but got Pepe
- Monreal, Iwobi and Mkhitaryan were key parts of his plan, but they were sold to accommodate younger players
- Emery spoke to another player before eventually deciding to make Xhaka captain, which pissed him off
- He then delayed deciding who the new captain would be
- Maitland-Niles hasn't been playing because he publicly said he didn't want to play right back
- Luiz had a recent falling out with one of the coaches for, and I quote, "feeling demeaned that the coach was treating him like a child by trying to teach him how to defend"
- And this:

Privately, many players complained of simply not understanding what Emery wanted from them. Language was of course, a factor, but as the pressure role Emery’s ideas seemed to become more muddled. An expanding vocabulary did not lead to an improvement in clarity. In recent weeks, even those players who Emery would have considered his lieutenants have deserted him. Within the squad, there has been an acceptance for some weeks that a change was inevitable.

by Hapless_Hans Fri Nov 29, 2019 3:15 pm

Jay29 wrote:He hasn't specified. Only said that Allegri was "not in the race".

I've seen other bits and pieces say he's not ready to return to management yet, and would prefer a return in the summer, but I haven't found a good source for that yet.

we have a good source for that, as @Robespierre said so too

by CBarca Fri Nov 29, 2019 3:35 pm

I can't tell if none of this stuff has come out about Poch because Spurs run a tight ship and haven't allowed anything to come out, or because there really wasn't a dressing room issue (as there obviously was here)

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