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Post by S on Tue Jul 31, 2018 10:31 am

@BarrileteCosmico wrote:Interested to see what the final terms are. The only thing that could be in it for Higuain is extending his contract length (if he is getting paid the same as reports suggest), but that sounds unlikely in a loan deal. So not quite sure what his agent is doing here. He seems like the clear loser in this deal.


Di Marzio confirmed Milan will buy him outright.

Its loan + option only for FFP reasons.

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Post by Firenze on Tue Jul 31, 2018 10:33 am

@BarrileteCosmico wrote:Interested to see what the final terms are. The only thing that could be in it for Higuain is extending his contract length (if he is getting paid the same as reports suggest), but that sounds unlikely in a loan deal. So not quite sure what his agent is doing here. He seems like the clear loser in this deal.

Hates CR7 and wants to stay in Italy, I guess. Milan are terrible and have been for years, but it's still an attract destination and place to live
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Post by Thimmy on Tue Jul 31, 2018 11:51 am

@Firenze wrote:
@BarrileteCosmico wrote:Interested to see what the final terms are. The only thing that could be in it for Higuain is extending his contract length (if he is getting paid the same as reports suggest), but that sounds unlikely in a loan deal. So not quite sure what his agent is doing here. He seems like the clear loser in this deal.

Hates CR7 and wants to stay in Italy, I guess.


I've never believed in the notion that they absolutely hate each other. People seem to base that claim on that one incident that occurred in a match almost a decade ago. If anything, Higgy is going the other way because Juve need to recoup some of the cash they spent on Cristiano.

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Post by Luca on Tue Jul 31, 2018 12:17 pm



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Post by Mr Nick09 on Tue Jul 31, 2018 12:21 pm

Wtf is that style of announcing players?

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Re: OFFICIAL : Gonzalo Higuain to AC Milan

Post by Luca on Tue Jul 31, 2018 12:21 pm

Di Marzio: Juventus-Milan meeting over. Higuain asking for severance from Juventus and signing bonus from Milan too. Clubs will meet again in a few hours to finalize the deal.

The THICKNESS is becoming the goddamn Whale, watch Moby Dick harpoon this deal Proud

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Post by Luca on Tue Jul 31, 2018 12:22 pm

@Mr Nick09 wrote:Wtf is that style of announcing players?


It's a meme based on the Juve-Cristiano announcement
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Re: OFFICIAL : Gonzalo Higuain to AC Milan

Post by S on Tue Jul 31, 2018 12:24 pm

@Luca wrote:
Di Marzio: Juventus-Milan meeting over. Higuain asking for severance from Juventus and signing bonus from Milan too. Clubs will meet again in a few hours to finalize the deal.

The THICKNESS is becoming the goddamn Whale, watch Moby Dick harpoon this deal Proud

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I read this and i think he wants a loyalty bonus or something like that. Maybe for accepting to go to a weaker team.
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Re: OFFICIAL : Gonzalo Higuain to AC Milan

Post by Luca on Tue Jul 31, 2018 12:26 pm

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@Luca wrote:
Di Marzio: Juventus-Milan meeting over. Higuain asking for severance from Juventus and signing bonus from Milan too. Clubs will meet again in a few hours to finalize the deal.

The THICKNESS is becoming the goddamn Whale, watch Moby Dick harpoon this deal Proud

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I read this and i think he wants a loyalty bonus or something like that. Maybe for accepting to go to a weaker team.


Its probably a clause that is already present in his contract that he is waiving by joining another team so he is requesting it to be paid since it is more Juventus selling him than it is Higuain leaving on his own accord
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Re: OFFICIAL : Gonzalo Higuain to AC Milan

Post by Luca on Tue Jul 31, 2018 12:33 pm

Juventus stand to make a profit of €41.5m on this year’s accounts if Mattia Caldara and Gonzalo Higuain leave, while Milan would only make a small loss.

The two clubs are working on a deal which will see Bonucci exchanged with Caldara, while Higuain joins Milan on loan for €18m, with a €36m option to buy.

The website Calcio e Finanza has broken down the financial details of the prospective transfer.

Both Caldara and Bonucci are being valued at around €40m, and will be part of a direct swap.

Bonucci earns around €7.5m plus bonuses at Milan, but it’s thought he’ll take a pay cut to return to Turin.

The centre-back is expected to drop down to €5.5m, less than he earns at San Siro but more than the €4.5m he was on when he left Juve last summer.

Caldara, meanwhile is to earn €1.5m per season with the Old Lady, but his agents will push that to €2m when he joins the Diavolo.

Both Juventus and Milan are valuing Higuain at close to €55m, which represents his current value on the Bianconeri’s accounts.

When clubs sign a player, they break down the cost of the deal over the lifetime of a contract in a process called amortisation.

Since Higuain signed for €91.3m from Napoli his value depreciates by €18.26m per season, giving a value of €54.78m for the remaining three years on his contract.

That is roughly equal to the total value of the transfer, while the €18m for the loan balances out the depreciation in Higuain's value this year.

He also earns €7.5m per season in Turin, so there will also be a gross saving of around €38m on his wages.

That will of course be partially offset by Bonucci’s arrival on lower wages, while if Pipita earns the same salary at Milan it would effectively just replace the defender’s salary on the books.

Bonucci’s current value on the Rossoneri accounts would be around €33.6m, and with his wages off the books his sale to Juve would have a positive effect of €27.5m.

Caldara’s arrival, assuming a €40m fee, a five year contract and a gross salary of €3.4m would cost €11.4m per season.

If the loan deal for Higuain is as reported, €18m will have to be paid outright for the loan, while his gross salary is €12.7m per season, so that transfer would add €30m to the Rossoneri’s outgoings.

When the deal is taken as a whole it would have a negative impact of €14.6m, which could be covered with the sales of players like Nikola Kalinic.

Milan have to be mindful of Financial Fair Play, so will need to carefully balance their incoming and outgoing players once the deal is complete.

For Juventus, meanwhile, the operation will create a significant net positive on this season’s balance sheet.

The sale of Caldara will bring a €33.4m gain up to June 30 2019, with a profit of €27.24m in total, given he arrived from Atalanta for €18m and has a book value of €12.76m.

Assuming Bonucci arrives on a €5.5m three-year contract, his gross salary this year - based on 11 months as Milan will pay his wages for July - will be €9.33m.

He will therefore add €22.66m to the balance sheet, i.e his gross salary of €28m over the contract plus €40m divided by the three years of the deal.

There will also be a saving in terms of salary though, as Higuain’s gross wages will be off the books along with Caldara’s creating saving of around €12.72m.

Pipita’s loan is equal to the €18m amortisation he would represent on the books, so for this season the Bianconeri would break even in that regard.

The total impact on the balance sheet is positive for €41.5m as long as Milan do buy Higuain outright, otherwise it falls to €23.2m.
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Re: OFFICIAL : Gonzalo Higuain to AC Milan

Post by Art Morte on Tue Jul 31, 2018 12:35 pm

What a deal, neither Milan or Jjuventus can feel good about it.
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Re: OFFICIAL : Gonzalo Higuain to AC Milan

Post by Luca on Tue Jul 31, 2018 12:39 pm

I think Milan can feel great about it:

-Clear Bonucci's wages and acknowledge it as a rather failed move that will not carry forward
-Caldara has a promising profile
-Higuain is a proven goalscorer. 18M is a high cost for a dry loan but it stops them from being locked in like they were with Bonucci in case the move doesn't work out for them

For Juventus:
-Lose Caldara and Higuain along with the latter's costs as deemed necessary after the Ronaldo purchase
-Bring back Bonucci who will be a starter
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Re: OFFICIAL : Gonzalo Higuain to AC Milan

Post by Art Morte on Tue Jul 31, 2018 12:47 pm

@Luca wrote:I think Milan can feel great about it:

-Clear Bonucci's wages and acknowledge it as a rather failed move that will not carry forward
-Caldara has a promising profile
-Higuain is a proven goalscorer. 18M is a high cost for a dry loan but it stops them from being locked in like they were with Bonucci in case the move doesn't work out for them

For Juventus:
-Lose Caldara and Higuain along with the latter's costs as deemed necessary after the Ronaldo purchase
-Bring back Bonucci who will be a starter


Higuain has never been an exemplary athlete and he's now 30 and moved a tier down in Serie A's rankings anyway ( = question about motivation). If he carries over his Jjuve form to Milan, fair enough, but we really got to wait and see.

Bonucci has had an indifferent season and is also in his 30s, losing a young CB for him to come back is just as risky as signing a 30-yo Higuain.

I guess one side has to be a winner in the end, but I don't really see a reason for Milan or Jjuve fans to be excited about this deal.
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Re: OFFICIAL : Gonzalo Higuain to AC Milan

Post by Robespierre on Tue Jul 31, 2018 1:18 pm

@Art Morte wrote:What a deal, neither Milan or Jjuventus can feel good about it.


Signing is a great CF is always better than signing a great CB

At same time Milan have signed also Caldara who is probably the most promising Italian CB in that role . Great deal by Milan for me

Sky reports even that Juve is going to pay a part of salary of Higuain for this year lol

This happens when you  need to recoup desperately some of the cash they spent on Cristiano. But it looked like hat it was enough to sell Juve jerseys for it.. ........
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Re: OFFICIAL : Gonzalo Higuain to AC Milan

Post by S on Tue Jul 31, 2018 1:26 pm

Not salary. More like a severance pay.(i think)

edit : yes it is indeed severance pay.
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Re: OFFICIAL : Gonzalo Higuain to AC Milan

Post by Art Morte on Tue Jul 31, 2018 2:20 pm

@S wrote:Not salary. More like a severance pay.(i think)

edit : yes it is indeed severance pay.


Otherwise a good argument, but I'm pretty sure "severance pay" doesn't exist in football contracts. You sign a new contract with a new employer, you're not being laid off.
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Re: OFFICIAL : Gonzalo Higuain to AC Milan

Post by Luca on Tue Jul 31, 2018 3:33 pm

It's been a long day of meetings for Juventus and Milan as they try to bring the Bonucci-Caldara-Higuain operation to a conclusion. At the moment, everything rests on Higuain. Once the striker agrees to a transfer, the swap between the two defenders will also be finalized.

The last 24 hours have been rich of meetings in order to try and make ends meet, but now the two sides will stop for a few hours. After the stand-by passes, they will reconvene to try and find a solution to overcome the last details of the operation. Higuain is not very pleased with the formula and terms of the transfer, which is a loan with an option to purchase.

At the moment, Leonardo is working to try and convince him that this is just a formality (the purchase option of 36 million is planned on being redeemed). The other issue seems to be the wages as Higuain would like to earn more than the 7.5 million he is due from Juventus in order to transfer to a team that is not involved in the Champions League. Milan is trying to make up the difference by adding an additional year (4 from Milan while he has 3 remaining from Juventus), but proposing a lower salary.

The striker's agent and brother Nicolas is therefore trying to have the difference in wages paid by Juventus (with whom he's had two meetings today) but the bianconeri are yet to accept this request. There are these things still missing from a total agreement. The parties involved will need to give a little more effort in order to completely close this complex negotiation.

A few moments ago Riso, the agent of Caldara, was at Casa Milan to meet with the rossoneri. There are no issues with the wages proposed by Milan and there are just minor details missing in order to come to a complete agreement with the defender. Here is a photo of the agent leaving Casa Milan.

This is absolutely unreal

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Re: OFFICIAL : Gonzalo Higuain to AC Milan

Post by FilthyLuca on Tue Jul 31, 2018 4:37 pm

Whats with all the love for 24 yr old CBs? That played at Atalanta at that. Who gives a shit? Its a CB. They develop over time. What happened to Doria? Future WC cb, blah bla blah, now i dont know wtf he is.
They know exactly what theyre getting with bonucci, and allegris obviously cool with it.

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Post by Turok_TTZ on Tue Jul 31, 2018 4:47 pm

milan the clear winner of this deal. too bad they dont thr midfield to make the most of higuain's abilities.

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Re: OFFICIAL : Gonzalo Higuain to AC Milan

Post by Luca on Tue Jul 31, 2018 4:49 pm

@FilthyLuca wrote:Whats with all the love for 24 yr old CBs? That played at Atalanta at that. Who gives a shit? Its a CB. They develop over time. What happened to Doria? Future WC cb, blah bla blah, now i dont know wtf he is.
They know exactly what theyre getting with bonucci, and allegris obviously cool with it.


Of course we know what were getting with Bonucci, he played with us for nearly a decade and then left... that's the whole issue but it's a non-issue the moment the deal goes through
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Re: OFFICIAL : Gonzalo Higuain to AC Milan

Post by S on Wed Aug 01, 2018 8:24 am

It's done

He's going to Milan with Caldara

Bonucci is coming back
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Post by Mr Nick09 on Wed Aug 01, 2018 8:29 am

Romagnoli - Caldara future of Italy at the back, bravo jjuve

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Post by S on Wed Aug 01, 2018 8:32 am

We should be fine. We'll sign one of them in a year or two Thumbs up
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Re: OFFICIAL : Gonzalo Higuain to AC Milan

Post by S on Wed Aug 01, 2018 8:51 am



grande pipita

Was hard done by with Kommander's arrival but signing the GOAT was too good an opportunity to pass on i suppose.

Reluctantly hoping Milan make top 4 because i dont fully trust those hedge fund guys to buy him outright. Wish him all the best.

Atleast the Milan derby should be good now after years of mediocrity.
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Post by Vibe on Wed Aug 01, 2018 8:53 am

@Luca wrote:
Juventus stand to make a profit of €41.5m on this year’s accounts if Mattia Caldara and Gonzalo Higuain leave, while Milan would only make a small loss.

The two clubs are working on a deal which will see Bonucci exchanged with Caldara, while Higuain joins Milan on loan for €18m, with a €36m option to buy.

The website Calcio e Finanza has broken down the financial details of the prospective transfer.

Both Caldara and Bonucci are being valued at around €40m, and will be part of a direct swap.

Bonucci earns around €7.5m plus bonuses at Milan, but it’s thought he’ll take a pay cut to return to Turin.

The centre-back is expected to drop down to €5.5m, less than he earns at San Siro but more than the €4.5m he was on when he left Juve last summer.

Caldara, meanwhile is to earn €1.5m per season with the Old Lady, but his agents will push that to €2m when he joins the Diavolo.

Both Juventus and Milan are valuing Higuain at close to €55m, which represents his current value on the Bianconeri’s accounts.

When clubs sign a player, they break down the cost of the deal over the lifetime of a contract in a process called amortisation.

Since Higuain signed for €91.3m from Napoli his value depreciates by €18.26m per season, giving a value of €54.78m for the remaining three years on his contract.

That is roughly equal to the total value of the transfer, while the €18m for the loan balances out the depreciation in Higuain's value this year.

He also earns €7.5m per season in Turin, so there will also be a gross saving of around €38m on his wages.

That will of course be partially offset by Bonucci’s arrival on lower wages, while if Pipita earns the same salary at Milan it would effectively just replace the defender’s salary on the books.

Bonucci’s current value on the Rossoneri accounts would be around €33.6m, and with his wages off the books his sale to Juve would have a positive effect of €27.5m.

Caldara’s arrival, assuming a €40m fee, a five year contract and a gross salary of €3.4m would cost €11.4m per season.

If the loan deal for Higuain is as reported, €18m will have to be paid outright for the loan, while his gross salary is €12.7m per season, so that transfer would add €30m to the Rossoneri’s outgoings.

When the deal is taken as a whole it would have a negative impact of €14.6m, which could be covered with the sales of players like Nikola Kalinic.

Milan have to be mindful of Financial Fair Play, so will need to carefully balance their incoming and outgoing players once the deal is complete.

For Juventus, meanwhile, the operation will create a significant net positive on this season’s balance sheet.

The sale of Caldara will bring a €33.4m gain up to June 30 2019, with a profit of €27.24m in total, given he arrived from Atalanta for €18m and has a book value of €12.76m.

Assuming Bonucci arrives on a €5.5m three-year contract, his gross salary this year - based on 11 months as Milan will pay his wages for July - will be €9.33m.

He will therefore add €22.66m to the balance sheet, i.e his gross salary of €28m over the contract plus €40m divided by the three years of the deal.

There will also be a saving in terms of salary though, as Higuain’s gross wages will be off the books along with Caldara’s creating saving of around €12.72m.

Pipita’s loan is equal to the €18m amortisation he would represent on the books, so for this season the Bianconeri would break even in that regard.

The total impact on the balance sheet is positive for €41.5m as long as Milan do buy Higuain outright, otherwise it falls to €23.2m.


So basically Bonucci went on a 1 year holiday in Milano, and returns with a new imporoved contract.

Not bad.
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Post by Luca on Wed Aug 01, 2018 9:57 am



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