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Post by Don't call me James on Mon Nov 12, 2018 10:29 pm

Messi is the only player better than him currently.

It’s not even close. He’s the best defender since Nesta and Maldini but much more impactful overall as a footballer than Nesta and much less of a bottler than Maldini (i.e. he doesn’t lose goal threatening headers to 5’1 Korean men in the World Cup).

He’s been at Liverpool for only 11 months and has already transformed one of the worst defensive top teams in the world into the best defensive side in Europe (no team in the top 15 leagues have conceded less goals than Liverpool this season).

He single handedly took a team that had no business being in CL to the final. And now he’s spearheaded the best Liverpool start in PL history. And if not for bald hipster’s £2 billion squad of doping cheats he might even single handedly lead his team to the most difficult fairy tale PL title EVER. We’ve never seen such a David vs Goliath story unfold in front of us in real life as it has with Van Dijk led Liverpool and the disgusting slave trading cheating oil money Man City.

There really is not much more a single man can do than what Van Dijk has done in 11 short months. Outside of Messi, probably the most dominant display of footballing ability and prowess in the history of this game over an 11 month period.

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Post by Robespierre on Mon Nov 12, 2018 10:45 pm

Welcome back :bow:

of course Skirniar is better


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Post by Firenze on Mon Nov 12, 2018 10:48 pm

I've seen him upstaged by Joe fucking Gomez on multiple occasions this season.

Rich mans Matip at most. Good to see you again though.
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Post by Kick on Mon Nov 12, 2018 10:51 pm

Imagine discounting Ronaldo, Neymar, Modric and Mbappe.

Welcome back, but I can't say I agree with you.

However, I can't think of too many better defenders of this generation.

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Post by Firenze on Mon Nov 12, 2018 10:58 pm

'He single handedly took a team that had no business being in CL to the final'

pure horseshit and you know it too btw

Salah is the reason you were relevant last season

I mean you shipped 4 goals in a CL semi-final game ffs, but yeah it was all because of Van Dijk
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Post by Art Morte on Mon Nov 12, 2018 11:04 pm

lmao McAgger with that 5/5 comeback thread Proud

Now we just need an injury crisis in May so that Origi can score the goals that win us the Premiership title.
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Post by Doc on Mon Nov 12, 2018 11:08 pm

@Firenze wrote:'He single handedly took a team that had no business being in CL to the final'

pure horseshit and you know it too btw

Salah is the reason you were relevant last season

I mean you shipped 4 goals in a CL semi-final game ffs, but yeah it was all because of Van Dijk

6.6 in the semi 1st leg
6.3 in the semi 2nd leg
6.0 in the final

Welcome back McAgger but gtfo with that history revisionism. Salah was the reason, the ONLY reason Liverpool made that final. Without him, you lost 3-1 to Madrid. Literally. Ugh. Seriously though, welcome back man (but gtfo too).

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Post by BusterLfc on Tue Nov 13, 2018 12:04 am

@Doc wrote:
@Firenze wrote:'He single handedly took a team that had no business being in CL to the final'

pure horseshit and you know it too btw

Salah is the reason you were relevant last season

I mean you shipped 4 goals in a CL semi-final game ffs, but yeah it was all because of Van Dijk

6.6 in the semi 1st leg
6.3 in the semi 2nd leg
6.0 in the final

Welcome back McAgger but gtfo with that history revisionism. Salah was the reason, the ONLY reason Liverpool made that final. Without him, you lost 3-1 to Madrid. Literally. Ugh. Seriously though, welcome back man (but gtfo too).

Oxlade-Chamberlain was missed just as much if not more in the final. But what was missed the most was a sane goalkeeper Laughing
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Post by BusterLfc on Tue Nov 13, 2018 12:06 am

We only need Tiago Ilori to form the best CB partnership in history imo :bow:

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Post by Sina on Tue Nov 13, 2018 12:07 am

Welcome back Thumbs up

@Don't call me James wrote:
. He’s the best defender since Nesta and Maldini

Unreal disrespect to Agger :coffee:

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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce on Tue Nov 13, 2018 12:14 am

Gonna ignore most of the flaws in this argument because i missed you Heart

Hope to see you in the NBA thread too. Thumbs up
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Post by Thimmy on Tue Nov 13, 2018 12:21 am

@Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:Gonna ignore most of the flaws in this argument  because i missed you Heart

Hope to see you in the NBA thread too. Thumbs up


Wouldn't be the first time you choose to ignore flaws tbh :coffee:
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Post by BarrileteCosmico on Tue Nov 13, 2018 12:24 am

Now this is what I call an epic entrance :bow: :bow:

Completely agreed and been wanting to make this thread for a while

Welcome back cheers

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Post by Unique on Tue Nov 13, 2018 1:57 am

Welcome back I hope prison life wasn’t to hard on you. Thumbs up

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Post by urbaNRoots on Tue Nov 13, 2018 7:58 am

I investigated this claim for a long time and according to my thorough research I came to the conclusion that you are inaccurate in your claim.

Here's why (please only read if you are an intelectual and can understand hard statistics):

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After that 14 more players came up so I can safely say he's not the "the most impactful defender of our generation" nor "the second best player in the world.
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Post by Kick on Tue Nov 13, 2018 8:11 am

@urbaNRoots wrote:I investigated this claim for a long time and according to my thorough research I came to the conclusion that you are inaccurate in your claim.

Here's why (please only read if you are an intelectual and can understand hard statistics):

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Van Dijk is the second best player in the world and the most impactful defender of our generation. Gemcd9b

Van Dijk is the second best player in the world and the most impactful defender of our generation. K3ETgf8

Van Dijk is the second best player in the world and the most impactful defender of our generation. 6k05F5N

After that 14 more players came up so I can safely say he's not the "the most impactful defender of our generation" nor "the second best player in the world.
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To further your research, he wasn't even the best in the Prem last season.

References:
https://www.futhead.com/18/players/?group=cbs&league=13&club=all&bin_platform=pc

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Post by Freeza on Tue Nov 13, 2018 8:12 am

@urbaNRoots wrote:I investigated this claim for a long time and according to my thorough research I came to the conclusion that you are inaccurate in your claim.

Here's why (please only read if you are an intelectual and can understand hard statistics):

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Van Dijk is the second best player in the world and the most impactful defender of our generation. 2gcwyUZ

Van Dijk is the second best player in the world and the most impactful defender of our generation. Gemcd9b

Van Dijk is the second best player in the world and the most impactful defender of our generation. K3ETgf8

Van Dijk is the second best player in the world and the most impactful defender of our generation. 6k05F5N

After that 14 more players came up so I can safely say he's not the "the most impactful defender of our generation" nor "the second best player in the world.
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Only Ramos is our generation hmm

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Post by urbaNRoots on Tue Nov 13, 2018 8:31 am

@Freeza wrote:
@urbaNRoots wrote:I investigated this claim for a long time and according to my thorough research I came to the conclusion that you are inaccurate in your claim.

Here's why (please only read if you are an intelectual and can understand hard statistics):

Spoiler:
Van Dijk is the second best player in the world and the most impactful defender of our generation. 2gcwyUZ

Van Dijk is the second best player in the world and the most impactful defender of our generation. Gemcd9b

Van Dijk is the second best player in the world and the most impactful defender of our generation. K3ETgf8

Van Dijk is the second best player in the world and the most impactful defender of our generation. 6k05F5N

After that 14 more players came up so I can safely say he's not the "the most impactful defender of our generation" nor "the second best player in the world.
With regards
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Only Ramos is our generation hmm

Only decided to include these 3 in my research because McAgger compared van Dijk to them himself but even if you only include players who played from 2010 until now van Dijk is still behind 11 center backs (at least) according to reliable FIFA ratings.
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Post by El Gunner on Tue Nov 13, 2018 8:33 am

Wasn't this supposed to be Matip.

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Post by Hapless_Hans on Tue Nov 13, 2018 8:57 am

Oh jeez.

I'm so sorry for Liverpool fans. Oh well, it was nice while it lasted, a top 4 finish, a CL final, a very good start to a season, putting pressure on City for 2 months, that's not nothing.

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Post by Valkyrja on Tue Nov 13, 2018 8:57 am

@El Gunner wrote:Wasn't this supposed to be Matip.


Next year it will be Joe Gomez

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Post by rincon on Tue Nov 13, 2018 9:03 am

Van Dijk really was great for Liverpool, it's a shame about the incoming season ending injury
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Post by Nishankly on Tue Nov 13, 2018 12:47 pm

Best GL day in 2018 for me, I missed you Mc <3
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Post by Bellabong on Tue Nov 13, 2018 2:20 pm

Doesn't Lahm win this title though or is he not of our generation

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Post by Zagadka on Tue Nov 13, 2018 3:12 pm

You're welcome everyone :bow:
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