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Post by Babun on Mon Aug 01, 2011 6:37 pm

Yesterday, we concentrated too much on Kaka's bad performance. Albilol was equal or worse in that game. He was out of breathe and kicked the ball away in panic against a Chinese side... Very Happy
I don't know whether I should be laughing or crying if he for some reason starts over Carvalho or Varane in rotation Very Happy
Kaka could play bad, only the attack suffers but we've got other guys to step up, in defense, every mistake is costly :lol!:


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Post by Mr Nick09 on Mon Aug 01, 2011 6:39 pm

i dont htink mourinho will decrease his depth in D to sign Ade. besides, 5 M is nothing, we can sign him outright

it's not a realistic outcome imo, albiol is in the inner circle of Iker, someone said it, he cant go out this way. perez wont sell way a spanish NT for adebracadabra


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Post by the xcx on Mon Aug 01, 2011 6:40 pm

Swap Albilol for Adebayor, if City is okay with it. Im gonna miss Albilols defensive capabilities and incompetentness tho, but its for the best.
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Post by vanDEEZ on Mon Aug 01, 2011 6:59 pm

true 5m for ade is a much better deal that swapping a player regardless of how bad he is.. albilol.

they are both pretty bad but if ade takes a severe pay cut, and only plays occasionally as cover for benzema and higuain there is no issue imo.
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Post by Guest on Mon Aug 01, 2011 7:00 pm

A bad CF won't win you games... but a bad CB will lose you games. If you have a bad choice to make, you'd always take the CF.

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Post by Babun on Mon Aug 01, 2011 7:01 pm

@sportsczy wrote:A bad CF won't win you games... but a bad CB will lose you games. If you have a bad choice to make, you'd always take the CF.
Sound logic, me likey Very Happy Let's see, he let Villa turn him around, forgot about Messi in second leg of CL what else? Very Happy Pretty important games in my account Very Happy

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Post by Mr Nick09 on Mon Aug 01, 2011 7:03 pm

Albiol isnt a bad player tho, he has performed very very well as back up last season for us. he is no milito for ex.

we have our reasons to dislike him, but we cant say he is a bad player

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Post by Shamirr on Mon Aug 01, 2011 7:04 pm

My vote was for Albiol but I thought that was for who should stay. Ade is worse...

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Post by Guest on Mon Aug 01, 2011 7:07 pm

St_Nick09_of_Goal wrote:Albiol isnt a bad player tho, he has performed very very well as back up last season for us. he is no milito for ex.

we have our reasons to dislike him, but we cant say he is a bad player

His mistakes... and he makes them too often... cost goals. That's a big no-no for a defensive player. He's not bad. But we have a lot of quality in front of him. Varane, Pepe, Carvalho and Ramos is enough.

If Mou really wants a 3rd striker, Ade is perfect since he has no ambition, plays hard and creates a physical target at CF if we need that. He doesn't necessarily need to score to be effective in certain situations.

But a error-prone CB is deadly.

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Post by Mr Nick09 on Mon Aug 01, 2011 7:11 pm

Fair point, regardless, we would keep both, since it's not one or the other.

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Post by Doc on Mon Aug 01, 2011 7:35 pm

Albiol is a Paco Pavon with better technique...

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Post by The Madrid One on Mon Aug 01, 2011 8:17 pm

what is iker's inner circle?
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Post by Babun on Mon Aug 01, 2011 8:21 pm

@The Madrid One wrote:what is iker's inner circle?
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Post by Mr Nick09 on Mon Aug 01, 2011 8:22 pm

the spanish armada, iker is the boss. you cant treat them like crap

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Post by The Madrid One on Mon Aug 01, 2011 8:26 pm

!!!!!!!!!!!!!! so even the crappiest of defenders cant get into it..
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Post by Pedram on Mon Aug 01, 2011 8:30 pm

@Doc wrote:Albiol is a Paco Pavon with better technique...

Do Albilol can even pronounce "technique" ?
I have to agree with u tho since Pavon was much worser than him. lol
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Post by ijomer on Mon Aug 01, 2011 10:06 pm

Sell Albiol please.

Before starting my argument, i must say, Albiol was one of my favorite players when he came in 2009, i was excited to see him play and thought he was an ideal Madrid player....

But... These following incidents made me reconsider.

These big mistakes/lack of doing something are in chronological order.


Champions League First Leg against Lyon:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndVkiBDJTDc
Makouns' goal... Albiol's Mistake... even the commentator is like, why are the defenders backing off...?


2nd leg: Pjanic Goal.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kht75tF31jo

Again Albiol's lack of tackling abilites cost us our Champions League dream.


2nd Clasico of 2009-10 season at Bernabeu: Messi goal
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K-vAZQYYUGw

Does Albiol have any type of balance? i mean i am 100% sure if that was Pepe, Messi would not score.


2nd League El clasico of 2010-11: Albiol costs us penalty, and Red Card

i am sure no video is needed for that... we all what he did :S seriously, he hand balled the ball, then he brough Villa down by grabbing his neck, sometimes looks like he is on barca payroll.


1st Leg Semi Final CL match against barca: Both Messi goals.

Albiol was not covering Messi or the space between Affely's cross and Messi... and he could have easily booted it out.

2nd goal was partly kuz of Messi's brilliance, but again, i am 100% sure if Carvalho and or Pepe were there, that would have never happend, i am too mad to embarrased to post that goal... but you can see Albiol barely moving as messi comes in.


All in All, im tired of him. Please boot him out of our team, he was good sometimes, but all these mistakes have cost us alot... and i don't want to see that in future.

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Post by The Madrid One on Mon Aug 01, 2011 10:11 pm

just get rid of this asswhole... (albiol)
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Post by buddytaller on Mon Aug 01, 2011 10:32 pm

@ijomer wrote:2nd goal was partly kuz of Messi's brilliance, but again, i am 100% sure if Carvalho and or Pepe were there, that would have never happend, i am too mad to embarrased to post that goal... but you can see Albiol barely moving as messi comes in.

The second Messi goal in the Champions league first leg, was largely the fault of Lass, he just stood behind Messi with his hands raised when he could easily have fouled him and taken a yellow card to the team, Albiol played his part in the goal as well, but Ramos and Marcelo couldn't commit into that challenge without risking a penalty and a possible red card, which would have caused them to miss the match as well.

I'll still keep Albiol, Pepe and Carvalho have a history of protracted injuries and it'll be safe to have Ramos, Varane and Albiol as backup. And for 5 million Adebayor can do no wrong at Madrid, he could get his fair share of goals and add a different dimension to our game.

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Post by vanDEEZ on Mon Aug 01, 2011 10:33 pm

i never liked the fact that he nearly clears the ball every time he gets it.. is too anxious with the ball at his feet. that may work in the epl, but la liga we need a defender who is calm with the ball at his feet and can distribute well, keep the rhythm etc.
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Post by Zealous on Mon Aug 01, 2011 10:35 pm

Albilol isn't crap but he can definitely be upgraded IMO.

The only reason he's on the Spain squad though is because he's a Madrid player. Don Vicente used his entire World Cup squad in South Africa except for one player, no prizes for who guesses who that player was.


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Post by futbol_bill on Mon Aug 01, 2011 10:52 pm

I think your question is wrong since neither is likely to see much (or any) action with Madrid this year. I would add Kaka to your question!!!

I don't believe (despite all of Nick's predictions) that Ade is coming.

Albiol isn't the worst defender in the liga. He does make too many mistakes but he is also a reserve on the selecciones which either says at times he is not bad or we just don't have a lot of spanish competent CBs!! (I suspect the latter but I believe (and hope) that we have several young ones soon ready (we have to replace Puyol and Marchena soon).

In any event, with Madrid this year, Albiol is 5th in line to play so his game action will be very limited this year.

This lack of game action, will make him questionable for selection to selecciones (and will give opportunities to developing young CBs). Once that happens he will likely look for an out to another team so in effect, other than limited game action this year, we may have seen the last of Albiol with Madrid (and hopefully with selecciones as well).
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Post by Mr Nick09 on Mon Aug 01, 2011 10:58 pm

@Zealous wrote:Albilol isn't crap but he can definitely be upgraded IMO.

The only reason he's on the Spain squad though is because he's a Madrid player. Don Vicente used his entire World Cup squad in South Africa except for one player, no prizes for who guesses who that player was.


exactly, he can be upgraded.

however, there is a way to deal with players, and exchanging albiol for Adebayor is wrong, that's why i dont think it's even an outcome.


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Post by FalcaoPunch on Mon Aug 01, 2011 11:01 pm

St_Nick09_of_Goal wrote:i dont htink mourinho will decrease his depth in D to sign Ade. besides, 5 M is nothing, we can sign him outright

it's not a realistic outcome imo, albiol is in the inner circle of Iker, someone said it, he cant go out this way. perez wont sell way a spanish NT for adebracadabra
didnt you say ade was gonna be like 20 mil?
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Post by futbol_bill on Mon Aug 01, 2011 11:02 pm

@Zealous wrote:Albilol isn't crap but he can definitely be upgraded IMO.

The only reason he's on the Spain squad though is because he's a Madrid player. Don Vicente used his entire World Cup squad in South Africa except for one player, no prizes for who guesses who that player was.


Albiol was on the selecciones from Valencia long before he came to Madrid. VDB isn't influenced by any club. He may be diplomatic (in a good way), but he is his own man.
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