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Post by emassy Fri Aug 05, 2011 10:38 am

These are derby matches from different countries. Choose the one you feel has the highest fan base
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Post by izzy Fri Aug 05, 2011 10:39 am

Serbia & Croatia :coffee:

P.S. I don't see Inter & Juve on that list.
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Post by paperbackwriter Fri Aug 05, 2011 10:45 am

In fans? It's obviously Real Madrid vs Barcelona since they both are in the top 3 supported teams in the world with Man Utd.
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Post by Lex Fri Aug 05, 2011 10:49 am

Liverpool / United is a big 'un
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Post by Josefaltafino Fri Aug 05, 2011 10:57 am

where is the italian derby juventus vs inter?
or the roman derby lazio vs roma?
or the seville derby?

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Post by awalezelin Fri Aug 05, 2011 11:02 am

no boca vs river?

massive in term of fan

no wonder la bombonera area in the stadium called chocolate box will vibrate
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Post by KMD Fri Aug 05, 2011 11:16 am

awalezelin wrote:no boca vs river?

massive in term of fan

no wonder la bombonera area in the stadium called chocolate box will vibrate

Super classico
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Post by theaguia Fri Aug 05, 2011 11:18 am

benfica vs sporting is a preety crazy one, should be on the list
but as far as derby goes you cant beat barca vs real, the whole world watches it
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Post by CroInter Fri Aug 05, 2011 11:26 am

Where is Inter v Juve?
Its bigger then Milan v Inter
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Post by RED Fri Aug 05, 2011 11:44 am

El Classico is not a derby, it's just a rivalry. A derby, to my knowledge, is two local competing rival teams from the same city.

I picked United v City because I believe that will be the most glamorous and exciting fixture...now that they are our potential league and CL rivals + all the top players they are signing.

oh...Boca Juniors v River Plate should have been on there. That is arguably the most fiercest rivalry in world football.
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Post by nj Fri Aug 05, 2011 1:13 pm

psg-om is the biggest & fiercest rivalry in french football.
ol-om is nothing in comparison.

Also,there is a certain lack of lfc-mu (although its not really a derby, but neither is ol-om...)
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Post by mezzogiornese Fri Aug 05, 2011 1:49 pm

A true derby the biggest is obviously the Milan Derby but rivalry the biggest is El Classico

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Post by emassy Fri Aug 05, 2011 2:22 pm

Devil-Is-Red wrote:El Classico is not a derby, it's just a rivalry. A derby, to my knowledge, is two local competing rival teams from the same city.

I picked United v City because I believe that will be the most glamorous and exciting fixture...now that they are our potential league and CL rivals + all the top players they are signing.

oh...Boca Juniors v River Plate should have been on there. That is arguably the most fiercest rivalry in world football.

where do you get your news or what you know from?,anyways,thank God you said to your knowledge. Derbi is for two teams in both location or two teams that have fierce rivalry. El clasico is also called el derbi espanol. Derbi means derby. Below are two links,open them for the sake of your knowledge.
1.http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/El_Cl%C3%A1sico
2.http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Local_derby
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Post by emassy Fri Aug 05, 2011 2:24 pm

Im sorry pals,i forgot to put alot of derbies like benfica v porto,but im not perfect.lol
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Post by M99 Fri Aug 05, 2011 2:58 pm

Milan Derby.
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Post by Toffer Harley Fri Aug 05, 2011 4:04 pm

schalke vs. dortmund is the biggest derby in germany by quite a margin. nuernberg vs. bayern is irrelevant compared to that...
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Post by Pedram Sat Aug 06, 2011 3:28 am

Esteghlal vs Perspolis

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tehran_derby
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Post by H.A. Sat Aug 06, 2011 3:41 am

Real Madrid vs Atletico may be a derby but its a joke tbh, its not even funny anymore beating them year after year.

On second thoughts it is fun, they're Pathetico for a reason Very Happy
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Post by baresi Sat Aug 06, 2011 3:58 am

as mentioned Boca vs River has to be up there.
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Post by awalezelin Sat Aug 06, 2011 4:11 am

El Superclásico = river plate vs boca juniors

City or region Buenos Aires, Argentina
First contested August 24, 1913
Teams involved Boca Juniors, River Plate
Most wins Boca Juniors (124 wins)
Most player appearances Reinaldo Merlo (42 matches)

Superclásico is the name used to describe the football match in Argentina between Buenos Aires rivals Boca Juniors and River Plate. It derives from the Spanish usage of "clásico" to mean derby, with the prefix "super" used as the two clubs are the most popular and successful clubs in Argentine football. According to some statistics, they commandeer more than 70% of all Argentine football fans between them, with Boca claiming 41% and River 32%.

The Superclásico is known worldwide as one of the fiercest and most important derbies. In April 2004, the English newspaper The Observer put the Superclásico at the top of their list of "50 sporting things you must do before you die", saying that "Derby day in Buenos Aires makes the Old Firm game look like a primary school kick-about.

The two clubs both have origins in La Boca, the working class dockland area of Buenos Aires, with River being founded in 1901 and Boca in 1905. However, River moved to the affluent district of Núñez in the north of the city in 1925. Since then Boca Juniors has been known as the club of Argentina's working class or the people's club, with many Boca fans coming from the local Italian immigrant community. Boca fans are actually known as Xeneizes (Genoese). By contrast, River Plate became known by the nickname, Los Millonarios (The Millionaires), with a supposedly upper-class support base. Both clubs do though have supporters from all social classes.

The first ever recorded Superclásico was a friendly played on 2 August 1908, when Boca prevailed 2–1. The first official match was played on 24 August 1913, with River winning 2–1.

The Superclásico is particularly noted for the passion of the fans, with what the BBC describe as "a sea of colourful flowing banners, screams and roars, chanting, dancing and never-ending fireworks." Both sets of supporters sing passionate chants aimed at their rivals, often based on popular Argentine rock band tunes. Each stadium, Boca's La Bombonera and River's El Monumental are known to bounce with the simultaneous jumping of the fans. At times the matches have been known to end in fights between the violent factions on both sides or with the police.

Boca fans refer to River supporters as gallinas (chickens) claiming the lack of guts of River fans and players. Despite the fact that their club traces back its roots to La Boca, River fans refer to their Boca rivals as los chanchitos (little pigs) because they claim their stadium, located in the less affluent La Boca area, smells most of the time, as well as bosteros (manure collectors) a reference to the smell of a polluted river in La Boca. Another infamous slur, coined in the late 1990s over remarks of Boca's forward Diego Latorre, is to brand Boca Juniors as "The Cabaret", due to the alleged aspiration of some players to steal the limelight.

The rivalry between the two clubs can also affect players, particularly those who are transferred between the two clubs. Cataldo Spitale was the first to make the change, when he left Boca to sign for River in 1933. Oscar Ruggeri, who moved to River from Boca in 1985 said, "It's not easy I can tell you. One side looks on you as a traitor and the other doesn't really trust you. You need time to adapt and a lot of character to win people over." Some players have gone so far as to state that they would not play for the other club such as River's Uruguayan player Enzo Francescoli while Diego Maradona during his time playing for Argentinos Juniors, refused to even consider a move to El Monumental, stating that his dream was to play for Boca.

Recently, in March 21 in the Clausura 2010 tournament, the two teams started playing in La Bombonera. At the 9' the match was suspended because of a big rain in Buenos Aires. The pitch was practically flooded, but in spite of this, the referee, Héctor Baldassi, stated that the match could be played. In the course of the match, the two teams were unable to keep possession, because the ball became repeatedly bogged down. The match restarted on Thursday 25 March 2010 and was played with two halves of 41 minutes. This was the first Superclásico suspended in history.

June 26, 2011 will forever be an historical date for this match, because of the relegation of River Plate, event that will make the 2011–12 Argentine Primera División season the first that does not have any Superclásico matches.

Puerta 12 tragedy
On 23 June 1968 in El Monumental after a match between the two teams 71 fans were killed in a crush at gate 12 and 150 fans injured. The disaster was the worst football related incident in the history of Argentine football and the majority of the dead were teenagers and young adults. The average age of the victims was 19.

There are various claims as to what exactly happened that day. Some claim that the disaster happened after Boca Juniors fans threw burning River flags from the upper tiers of the stadium, causing a stampede of their own fans in the lower tier.

Others claim that it happened after River fans arrived at the Boca section, causing the stampede of the visiting fans. Yet others claim that gate 12 was locked, or would not open at the time, and that the fans at the back did not hear the ones at the front telling them to stop coming in. William Kent, River's former president, claimed that the police were the culprits, as they began repressing Boca fans after they had thrown urine at them from the stands. Some witnesses claim that the turnstiles to the exit were blocked by a huge iron pole.

After three years of investigation a government enquiry found no-one guilty, much to the disappointment of the families of the victims. Since the tragedy, the gates at El Monumental have been identified by letters instead of numbers.

At the end of the 1968 season the 68 football clubs in the Argentine Football Association collected 100,000 pesos for the families of the deceased.

Head-to-head record
Primera División
boca won 70
river won 63
they drew 59


Top five goalscorers
1. Ángel Labruna (River Plate) 16 goals
2. Oscar Más (River Plate) 12
3. Paulo Valentim (Boca Juniors) 10
4. Carlos Manuel Morete (River Plate) 9
Martín Palermo (Boca Juniors) 9
5. Bernabé Ferreyra (River Plate) 8


Largest margin of victory (4+ goals)
1. Boca Juniors 6–0 River Plate (1928)
2. River Plate 1–5 Boca Juniors (1982)
River Plate 5–1 Boca Juniors (1941)
Boca Juniors 5–1 River Plate (1959)
3. River Plate 0–4 Boca Juniors (1955)
River Plate 4–0 Boca Juniors (1942)


Highest scoring matches (7+ goals)
1. River Plate 5–4 Boca Juniors (1972)
2. River Plate 5–3 Boca Juniors (1957)
3. Boca Juniors 2–5 River Plate (1980)
Boca Juniors 5–2 River Plate (1973)
Boca Juniors 5–2 River Plate (1974)
Boca Juniors 4–3 River Plate (1991)


Players to have played for both clubs
Gabriel Amato
Abel Balbo
Carlos Barisio
Gabriel Batistuta
Sergio Berti
Fernando Cáceres
Julio César Cáceres
Claudio Caniggia
Gabriel Cedrés
Victorio Cocco
Rubén da Silva
Luciano Figueroa
Rubén Horacio Galletti
Fernando Gamboa
Ricardo Gareca
Hugo Gatti
Jorge Higuaín
Juan Francisco Lombardo
Juan José López
Jonathan Maidana
Ernesto Mastrángelo
Milton Melgar
Norberto Menéndez
Jesús Méndez
José Manuel Moreno
Carlos Manuel Morete
Julio Olarticoechea
Juan José Pizzuti
Sebastián Rambert
Gerardo Reinoso
Jorge Rinaldi
Oscar Ruggeri
Francisco Sá
Cataldo Spitale
Carlos Daniel Tapia
Alberto Tarantini
Julio César Toresani
Nelson Vivas
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Post by awalezelin Sat Aug 06, 2011 4:17 am

superclassico = river vs boca

River's greatest moments

August 13, 1913: River won the first official Superclásico 2–1.

October 19, 1941: The River team of the 1940s known as "La Máquina" beat Boca 5–1, their biggest win over Boca, on their way to the Argentine championship.

July 19, 1942: River won 4–0, equaling their biggest win over Boca.

November 8, 1942: River came back from 2–0 down to a 2–2 draw, clinching the championship of that year in the home of their arch-rivals for first time in history.

December 8, 1955: River won the second championship at La Bombonera after a 2–1 victory over Boca.

February 10, 1966: River won 2–1 at El Monumental in the first ever meeting of the clubs in international competitions.

October 15, 1972: River came back from 4–2 down to win 5–4 in the highest scoring Superclásico in history.

November 9, 1977: River came back from 1–0 down in La Bombonera to win 2–1 with a last minute goal from a 40 meters dash of Pedro Alexis Gonzalez, securing River's top position in the 1977 Metropolitano championship, which they won in the next round.

April 6, 1986: In a game remembered for the fact that it was played with an orange ball, River won 2–0 at La Bombonera right after winning the 1985–86 championship.

July 27, 1989: River won 2–1 the re-qualifying final of the 1989 Liguilla pre-Libertadores preventing Boca's qualification for Copa Libertadores 1990.

December 11, 1994: River won 3–0 at La Bombonera, securing the 1994 Apertura.

March 23, 1997: River came back from 3–0 at El Monumental to draw 3–3 costing Boca a famous win.

March 10, 2002: River won 3–0 at La Bombonera on their way to win the 2002 Clausura.

May 16, 2004: River won 1–0 a decisive match at La Bombonera with a goal from Fernando Cavenaghi, paving the way to win the 2004 Clausura.

October 8, 2006: River defeated Boca 3–1 at El Monumental, breaking Boca's 22 match record without defeats.

October 7, 2007: River won 2–0 at home to prevent Boca from going top of the table and damaged their chances of winning the 2007 Apertura.
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Post by awalezelin Sat Aug 06, 2011 4:21 am

superclassico = river vs boca

Boca's greatest moments

August 2, 1908: Boca won the first Superclásico ever 3–1.

December 23, 1928: Boca defeated River 6–0, the biggest win in Superclásico history, with two goals from Domingo Tarasconi, Roberto Cherro and Esteban Kuko.

May 19, 1959: After 18 years Boca avenged their 5–1 defeat by River with a 5–1 win at La Bombonera with two goals from Jose Yudica.

December 9, 1962: Boca defeated River 1–0 at La Bombonera to secure the top position of 1962 championship, which they won in the next round. This match is happily remembered for Boca's fans, because Antonio Roma stopped a penalty kick shoot by Delem, in the last minutes of it.

December 14, 1969: Despite River's recovery from a 0–2 down, Boca won the national championship in the home of their arch-rivals after a 2–2 drawn.

February 3, 1974: Carlos García Cambón scored four goals on his Boca debut in a 5–2 win, the most goals scored by a single player in the Superclásico. It was also Boca's second successive 5–2 win.

December 22, 1976: Boca won the first ever final between the two clubs 1–0 to claim the 1976 Nacional.

April 10, 1981: Boca won 3–0 on their way to winning the 1981 Metropolitano championship, with a famous goal of Maradona against Ubaldo Matildo Fillol.

March 7, 1982: Boca won 5–1 at El Monumental, in the 1982 Nacional championship, the biggest away win in the history of the Superclásico. Due to a contractual conflict, River played the match with youth players.

February 27, 1991: Boca came back from 3–1 down to win 4–3 in the highest scoring Superclásico in Libertadores Cup history.

March 31, 1991: Boca won its fifth consecutive derby of the year 1–0 at La Bombonera.

July 14, 1996: Claudio Caniggia scored a hat-trick to help Boca win 4–1 at La Bombonera, barely a month after River won the Copa Libertadores.

May 24, 2000: Having lost the first leg of the 2000 Copa Libertadores quarter-final 2–1 at El Monumental, Boca won 3–0 at home to progress to the semi-final and later go on to win the competition and the Intercontinental Cup. Boca's third goal was scored by substitute Martín Palermo after a six-month injury.

November 9, 2003: Boca, then Championships of Copa Libertadores 2003 won 2–0 at El Monumental with goals scored by Brazilian striker Iarley and Sebastián Battaglia in their way to win the Apertura 2003.

June 17, 2004: Having won the first leg of the 2004 Copa Libertadores semi-final 1–0 at La Bombonera, Boca went to El Monumental, where River scored first. With just five minutes left Carlos Tévez scored to level the score 1–1 and so give Boca a 2–1 aggregate lead. However, a last-minute goal by Cristián Nasuti for River took the match to penalties. Boca then won the penalty shootout 5–4.

October 18, 2008: Ten-man Boca won 1–0 at El Monumental on their way to winning the 2008 Apertura
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