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Zidane was not that great

Post by pdolson on Tue Jun 07, 2011 12:57 pm

Honestly Zidane is overrated and gets far too much praise.

How can a guy that reguarly gets called one of the greatest players ever, to some the greatest ever, who is a attacking midfielder/playmaker only have 128 goals (including penalties) in 681 games? Then I looked up his assists and found he only has around 100 in his career.

I admit he is a very skillful player and can be good to watch, but having good trickery doesn't always make you a good player. Go on youtube you'll find many people with good freestyle skills, doesn't mean that'd be great players. Most of zidane's tricks are just for show, he dances around in the midfield and entertains the crowd. But when it comes to fooball, it has little effect. Whereas somebody like Ronaldinho uses his tricks to have an actual effect on the game and trick his opposition.

I think through his trickery, the 2 goals in the 1998 wc final and the volley in the 2002 final he earned this legendary status. other than that he didnt do too much. the media, fifa and fans have mistakenly given him more praise than he deserves. I dont think he deserves to have 3 world player of the year awards, just one for 1998 for making the cl final and winning the world cup. in 2000 and 2003 it was his repuation than won it. france won euro and madrid won the league and there wasnt too much to choose from. they shouldve given it to raul and henry in those years.

also in the 2006 wc cannavaro or pirlo shouldve won the golden ball as they were more effective, but zidanes reputation has won it for him again and you know it's his retirement so he had the spotlight and all, and a golden ball would really polish off his career. fifa and the media have given him too much praise. he really didnt do much in 2006 wc, i know he did his usual dancing around in the midfield but it really didnt have much effect on the games. two of his goals were penalties and the other 1 was an easy counter attacking goal in he 90th minute because spain had all their men pushed up because they were a goal down. and he just made one assist from a free kick from a roberto carlos mistake. france only scored in the semis and the final from dubious penalties. saying that he single handedly carried for the wc final is bs. henry was the key player in for france, and they have many other great players that were more key, like two of the greatest DMs in makelele and viera, and two great wingers in malouda and ribery. same goes for 98, that france team was great all around, zidane was pretty absent until the final.

for madrid he didnt win that many trophies for them, how he is a madrid great idk. he didnt do anything in his last 3 years, they didnt win anything. i know ozil gets regularly compared to him as the next zidane. Ozils goal scoring is similar, but ozil had 25 assists this season, that's amazing. zidane never had a season anywhere near that. real madrid only payed so much for him because he would be good for business because of this reputation built around him that he shouldnt have, he's good for selling merchandise and stuff. for football he didnt provide much, they started out well, but the first galaticos were pretty much a bit of a fail besides commercially. madrid already won 2 champions leagues in recent years before zidane came, so you cant say zidane's introduction to madrid had a big impact, besides in the cl final, madrid were already the best in europe before he came. juventus the same, their team had many great players in it like davids and del piero.

zidane is not one of the greatest of all time, and not the greatest of our generation. look at the past great attacking midfielders like cryuff, platini, maradona, ronaldinho and their goal scoring ratios. it was like a good strikers ratio. they also provided more assists than him. and the way people put him in the same category as pele, maradona, distefano, cryuff, beckenbaur, ronaldo luis is ridiculous. i know these players (apart from ronaldo) played in different eras so its hard to say how good theyd be now because fooball has changed so much, but they were the greatest in their generation. you know to have that top legendary status. zidane should not be a part of this list. ive been watching fooball since 1998 and ronaldo luis is the greatest of this era, followed closely by henry or ronaldinho. messi and c ronaldo are now the best in a new generation. zidanes as good as deco or riquelme. no disrespect to deco or riquelme, theyre great players and skillful. but if they hadve scored 2 headers in a wc final and a really good volley in a cl final, they would get this god-like following that zidane gets but doesnt deserve. zidane just happened to be in the right place at the right time, then he got this invincible reputation. the media and fifa with their awards have made people believe that he's some sort of god of football, he really isnt.

seriously the guy is overrated, im not saying he's not a great player or not a legend, but he gets too much credit. he's done well in big matches and has good skills, but if you watched him regularly you'd see he doesn make that big of an impact. these days when people talk about football, they're like "if zidane was playing he would do this and that and destroy everybody", no really he wouldnt, he's not that special. zidane's been wrongfully tagged as one of the greats. his reputation has mostly come down to luck, not what he did on the field.


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Re: Zidane was not that great

Post by TheRedStag on Tue Jun 07, 2011 1:05 pm

Didnt even read your full argument because whatever you have written is not true.

Zidane is one of the true greats. One of the top 3 footballers I've even seen play the game.

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Re: Zidane was not that great

Post by The Messiah on Tue Jun 07, 2011 1:09 pm

I can't even ready this......this, Let the Coffe guy do it..
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Re: Zidane was not that great

Post by EarlyPrototype on Tue Jun 07, 2011 1:11 pm

You have not thought through what you said. If you are going to bring assists and goals into this then by your words Iniesta and Xavi are over rated too.

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Re: Zidane was not that great

Post by 7amood11 on Tue Jun 07, 2011 1:12 pm

Statistics tell one side of the story, but they most definitely don't tell the whole story.

Mate, I don't think you can just look at his stats and say "this guy isn't a legend", you have to actually watch him play. You know all those people who call him a legend? All of them watched him play in his prime.

Watch a game with Zidane in it. Notice his passing, his trickery, his ability to get rid of the player who's after him, and his overall effect on the game.

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Re: Zidane was not that great

Post by Spider on Tue Jun 07, 2011 1:15 pm

All i can see is , Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah...................... Blah

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Re: Zidane was not that great

Post by Abramovich on Tue Jun 07, 2011 1:16 pm

As far as I'm concerned Zidane is the greatest player of my generation for now at least.

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Re: Zidane was not that great

Post by 7amood11 on Tue Jun 07, 2011 1:17 pm

EarlyPrototype wrote:You have not thought through what you said. If you are going to bring assists and goals into this then by your words Iniesta and Xavi are over rated too.

Good point. Iniesta and Xavi's stats aren't that impressive, but they are still both amazing players, once you watch them play you will immediately see that.

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Re: Zidane was not that great

Post by Jamin on Tue Jun 07, 2011 1:23 pm

watch your reputation go down because of this :bom:

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Re: Zidane was not that great

Post by EarlyPrototype on Tue Jun 07, 2011 1:27 pm

7amood11 wrote:
EarlyPrototype wrote:You have not thought through what you said. If you are going to bring assists and goals into this then by your words Iniesta and Xavi are over rated too.

Good point. Iniesta and Xavi's stats aren't that impressive, but they are still both amazing players, once you watch them play you will immediately see that.

Exactly Xavi and Iniesta are the puppeteers and pull the strings of the midfield you do not have to have the final pass to be considered a good midfielder. Zidane has scored some important goals as well.

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Re: Zidane was not that great

Post by paperbackwriter on Tue Jun 07, 2011 2:15 pm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IIf07gQAbGM

Zidane having a field day vs Ronaldinho, Kak√° and co in midfield.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qquZkf1M4wg&feature=related

Zidane enjoying the simple task of outshining Xavi, Cesc and Xabi.

Both games at 34 years of age...

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Post by zizzle on Tue Jun 07, 2011 2:17 pm

its clear he never really watched zidan, moving on,,,

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Re: Zidane was not that great

Post by Lord Hades on Tue Jun 07, 2011 2:23 pm

cool story bro :coffee:

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Re: Zidane was not that great

Post by windkick on Tue Jun 07, 2011 2:25 pm

Zidane was sexy

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Re: Zidane was not that great

Post by Ljuljo on Tue Jun 07, 2011 2:28 pm

Is this a joke?

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Re: Zidane was not that great

Post by teague on Tue Jun 07, 2011 2:30 pm

Jamin wrote:watch your reputation go down because of this :bom:

That's why he has only 1 post.

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Re: Zidane was not that great

Post by Thimmy on Tue Jun 07, 2011 2:35 pm

It doesn't change the fact that whenever Zidane was on the pitch, the likelyhood of his team winning went up a significant amount. He performed everywhere he went and brought success with him. I don't care if he didn't score or assist, his presence made us a dangerous side to any opponent and he always showed up when it counted. An assist is only the last pass before a goal, anyway.

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Re: Zidane was not that great

Post by Se7en on Tue Jun 07, 2011 2:41 pm

It is obvious he never watched a Zizou game and just went by statistics. This thread is so stupid honestly.

"for madrid he didnt win that many trophies for them, how he is a madrid great idk. he didnt do anything in his last 3 years, they didnt win anyhing."

I have to remind you that his goal was the decisive one, against Leverkusen. It is also one of the all time greatest goals. That alone, he won us 1 CL trophy, bigger than anything you can do for a team.

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