no no no no no no no no no no

Arquitecto wrote:While Welbeck is a United youth player, Cleverly is not as he came to United in 2006 from Brandford city.

he's been with United since he was 13.

DagenhamDave wrote:we signed him when he was 15

Nice to know.

But he is a youth player of Basingstoke who took him in and eventually Bradford City as it cannot be classified as a bred youth player as his previous youth systems are the ones truly responsible for his nascent development.

But, yes just making things clear as United have been and are vital to his development and newfound success.

@KSA: Nope, 15.

YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES !

On another note:

What I personally like about Cleverly is how he is so fantastically commanding in what ever area he is in with or without the ball.

This kind of characteristic can especially come in great use in the big games against Super disciplined, pressuring and physical midfields.

Also, I am seeing great leadership skills within him.

Reminds me a lot like Albertini. A lot.

Nothing else much to add that hasn't been said.

Yeah, you learn everything at 15 ffs

Cleverly has spent longer at Utds youth acadamy than whoever elses, he has said he has improved 1m % when he joined our youth set up

15 bla bla bla is a worthless semantics argument based off of 1 line in wikipedia..
Who says you have to sign with a club at birth to be their product? if he didnt move to us, he wouldnt be as good as he is now.

Therefore he is our youth product, he is a product of our youth team coaching

simple

Sneijder can raise any clubs quality lvl and he class......I know why u want ur youngster but with sneijder he can improve even more ...

Andii, do you not know my history of bashing Sneidjer on here?
Why would i be worried about City getting him when Mancini himself says hes not going?

Cleverley is a mobile midfielder who is great in tight spots, has great feet with the ability to carry the ball forward.

V lower teams Sneidjer would be great, v Barca id choose Cleverley

cyberman wrote:Andii, do you not know my history of bashing Sneidjer on here?
Why would i be worried about City getting him when Mancini himself says hes not going?

Cleverley is a mobile midfielder who is great in tight spots, has great feet with the ability to carry the ball forward.

V lower teams Sneidjer would be great, v Barca id choose Cleverley

Cyber at his best hating on Italian Football, players coming from Serie A, why am I not surprised?

cyberman wrote:V lower teams Sneidjer would be great, v Barca id choose Cleverley

Based on......a community shield vs City?

bhends wrote:

cyberman wrote:V lower teams Sneidjer would be great, v Barca id choose Cleverley

Based on......a community shield vs City?

Nah, based on his Anti Italian Football antics

bhends wrote:

cyberman wrote:V lower teams Sneidjer would be great, v Barca id choose Cleverley

Based on......a community shield vs City?

Look at when he created this thread.

https://goallegacy.forumotion.com/t5433-cleverly-sneidjer

ronaldo__9 wrote:

bhends wrote:

cyberman wrote:V lower teams Sneidjer would be great, v Barca id choose Cleverley

Based on......a community shield vs City?

Look at when he created this thread.

https://goallegacy.forumotion.com/t5433-cleverly-sneidjer

I wasn't referring to the general idea of cleverly > sneijder...I was referring to the exact line that I quoted

What does this:

cyber wrote:Tom is what we need. A composed head who excels in tight spaces who can bring the ball out from the midfield.
Sneidjers good, but hes no Cleverly...in terms of what we need

Have to do with:

cyber wrote:V lower teams Sneidjer would be great, v Barca id choose Cleverley

.....

bhends wrote:

ronaldo__9 wrote:

bhends wrote:

cyberman wrote:V lower teams Sneidjer would be great, v Barca id choose Cleverley

Based on......a community shield vs City?

Look at when he created this thread.

https://goallegacy.forumotion.com/t5433-cleverly-sneidjer

I wasn't referring to the general idea of cleverly > sneijder...I was referring to the exact line that I quoted

Fair enough.

cyberman wrote:Yeah, you learn everything at 15 ffs

Cleverly has spent longer at Utds youth acadamy than whoever elses, he has said he has improved 1m % when he joined our youth set up

15 bla bla bla is a worthless semantics argument based off of 1 line in wikipedia..
Who says you have to sign with a club at birth to be their product? if he didnt move to us, he wouldnt be as good as he is now.

Therefore he is our youth product, he is a product of our youth team coaching

simple

Everything at 15? LOL Hilarious

Footballers like Cleverly and CO. learn their skill before the age of 10 as otherwise everyone would turn out like Theo Walcott who actually started learning football at the age of 13.


And you clearly did not read my response as I said United simply cannot hold him as a directly bred youth product as the credit does and must go to the youth systems that were the catalyst to his development as I clearly stated that he would NOT be the player he is without United.

True youth products are the ones like Xavi, Scholes and Gerrard who have plied their trade since the early development and inception to their footballing brains and skills.

I used to use Watford as my FIFA 10 team, and Cleverley was on loan from Man U. By the time i had won the Coca Cola League I outright bought him and he was instrumental in my champions league winning team.

Sneijder >> Cleverley










Cleverley > Wilshere

Im all for Cleverly, Snijder is the much better midfielders but has had his deal of injuries and doenst have the workrate of a younger clevery, who has more to work for every game then snijder would coming and automatically taking his position.

Arquitecto wrote:

DagenhamDave wrote:we signed him when he was 15

Nice to know.

But he is a youth player of Basingstoke who took him in and eventually Bradford City as it cannot be classified as a bred youth player as his previous youth systems are the ones truly responsible for his nascent development.

But, yes just making things clear as United have been and are vital to his development and newfound success.

@KSA: Nope, 15.

So in conclusion he's a Man Utd youth....

I wouldn't want Sneijder if I were a United supporter. He's simply too expensive and United are not in that great a need of a CM player.

But Sneijder is of world-class quality and it's unlikely that Cleverley will ever be as good a player as Sneijder is. Could become very good, though, not denying that.

no,no,no,no,no,no?? a kid learnt how to spell its first word,lol

Arquitecto wrote:While Welbeck is a United youth player, Cleverly is not as he came to United in 2006 from Brandford city.

has spent more time in Uniteds youth system then any other...in my mind that makes him a united bred player

FIFA and Football Manager are to blame for players rating Cleverly over Sneijder.

For the record I remember having an epic Sneijder vs Carrick debate () with Cyber a couple of years ago on the old old forum.

He's flipped flopped since then though

Sniejder has just come out today and clarified to the Dutch media that he has began talks with Man United.

I said that inter were willing to sell him and that they have accepted our bid. United and sneijder have to come to an agreement now and this transfer will be done. Some talks in the Dutch media say it will be done by this Thursday, others are saying it will be done by deadline day.

http://nos.nl/video/262768-kans-bestaat-dat-inter-me-laat-gaan.html

Perhaps FFP is forcing inter to sell their best players or players who are on exorbitant wages..
I am presuming from the report i read yesterday in the inter section..

sneijder would do great at manchester united if he could just learn to play deep consistantly. But I have to agree that giving clevery a shot to prove himself woud be better for everybody

Im more surprised that Inter Milan would agree to sell Sneijder at all, he truly is a gem

Wesley Sneijder is more clarity on its future. Interviewed by Dutch television, Sneijder has not closed the door to a transfer, but said he was happy at Inter, and it is said that his future is far from the club's: As reported in the preview FcInterNews.it , l ' Dutch said: "I'm playing for Inter and there are chances that I stay at Inter after August 31. I do not exclude, however, that there is also the possibility that I go away. The situation does not depend on me, but by the company, which has been clear: if the right offer comes for me, let me go. For this, I do not exclude the possibility of leaving Inter. " When asked if he will return to Milan after the match against England, Holland, Wesley Sneijder says, "If there will be news, of course I'll be back, I have permission from the coach."

Then the clear words of the Dutchman, who declares his desire to remain at Inter. Everything depends of the companies that come with an appropriate offer, given that Inter evaluate the player at least 40 million. At the moment, no one has moved. Sneijder is wanting to stay at Inter, and the great goals and determination put into the field in the Super Cup has shown.




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Where does it here says he began talks with United?

http://www.fcinternews.it/?action=read&idnotizia=54729

He has just repeated what has been said already, if the right offer comes to Inter he might leave.