Who has the best youth academy in the world if you do not include Barca?

Barca are excluded not because they are "obviously the best", which may or may not be a true statement, but because by including them the conversation turns ugly and further from the topic I wish to discuss.

Obviously the best?

Inter is great but they dont use them

Udinese is probably the best in the world.

Ajax and PSV, they keep a small nation on top of the world.

Giggity5313 wrote:Obviously the best?

Reading comprehension comes in handy sometimes

chinomaster182 wrote:Ajax and PSV, they keep a small nation on top of the world.

To be fair youth development in Holland as a whole is very top notch

http://es.uefa.com/trainingground/grassroots/video/videoid=1612039.html?autoplay=true

BarrileteCosmico wrote:Barca are excluded not because they are "obviously the best", which may or may not be a true statement, but because by including them the conversation turns ugly and further from the topic I wish to discuss.

What do you mean?

In producing good players or producing Quality players into their first team?

Does this academy only refer to the youth system like Barca has or also include buying young players from overseas and developing them into quality players like Porto and Udinese are doing?

BeautifulGame wrote:Does this academy only refer to the youth system like Barca has or also include buying young players from overseas and developing them into quality players like Porto and Udinese are doing?

Youth = 18 and under
Buying young talented players (who are not 18 or under) = good scouting

It's obviously madrid
Look at all those la liga teams with our players

seriously we might not have the best academy but the sheer number of our castilla products starring in other la liga or other teams is staggering.. they all mature later.. valero, javi garcia, mata, arbeloa at pool and the team he was in before that etc ..

BarrileteCosmico wrote:

BeautifulGame wrote:Does this academy only refer to the youth system like Barca has or also include buying young players from overseas and developing them into quality players like Porto and Udinese are doing?

Youth = 18 and under
Buying young talented players (who are not 18 or under) = good scouting

If that's the case, then Arsenal just has to be mentioned somewhere. I don't need to get the list out, do I?

Giggity5313 wrote:It's obviously madrid
Look at all those la liga teams with our players

I actually agree to some extent: Mata, Negredo(There are obviously more examples, but these are the ones I know from limited la liga knowledge) etc but you guys fail to actually implement them into your squad.

madrid, clearly... castilla is probably the biggest spanish charity organisation

btw negredo is a rayo youth

che wrote:madrid, clearly... castilla is probably the biggest spanish charity organisation

btw negredo is a rayo youth

Lmao i expected you to say that.

which part?

che wrote:madrid, clearly... castilla is probably the biggest spanish charity organisation

btw negredo is a rayo youth

This part.

not word for word obviously.

This image seems relevant.

Lionel Messi wrote:


This image seems relevant.

Hows that relevant?

Well barca's youth certainly didn't boom suddenly out of no where. They've used the dutch model to help them, you can thank the annoying cruyff for that.

I still believe the dutch still churn out excellent player, the next batch will appear soon enough.

Another academy many overlook is Real Madrid's Cantera, they have churned out many champion teams, latest one being in the 90's. With all the mess the galactico policy created we now use very few cantera players which is unfortunate. We still create the players though, we just don't use them. All madridistas hope this will change soon in the next few years.

Real Madrid Castilla.

Alot of talent there, they might not make it to the first team in Real Madrid but they make the first team in other top clubs.

Ajax still have the best youth academy bar none, look at the stars from there. Theyve had th best youth academ for a very long tme, for ffs, Barceonas whole model and system is based on ajax. Madrid have a better youth system but ever since perez came the youths arent integrated into the 1st team due to his whole galacticos philosophy. Barcelona utilise their youths the best since pep came, but they dont have the best youth academy. Sothhampton as well.

Bayern Munich youth has produce stars in recent days, just to mention few. Lahm, Hummels, Badstuber, Schweinsteiger, Muller, Kroos, etc

Sporting lisbon also has an exellent youth system

Idrisozet wrote:Bayern Munich youth has produce stars in recent days, just to mention few. Lahm, Hummels, Badstuber, Schweinsteiger, Muller, Kroos, etc

Sporting lisbon also has an exellent youth system

Definitely. If Madrid is Spain's youth setup, Bayern is Germany's. Although Bayern actually use their youth

That's a lot of gifs.

River Plate is a competitor for the first spot:

Pablo Aimar
Hernan Crespo
Javier Mascherano
Gonzalo Higuain
Radamel Falcao

If you go further back you can also find some legends of the game:

Omar Sivori
Alfredo di Stefano

And some of the most exciting youth are also from the River youth academy:

Erik Lamela
Manuel Lanzini
German Pezzela (defender, watch out for this guy, will make his stamp in the 2014 WC)
Musacchio