David Silva as a False 9

Xabi is the second highest goalscorer on the team in the Del Bosque era,
with 11 goals, one more than forward Fernando Torres. Only David Villa
has scored more goals than Xabi in this time

lol le owned

Khaledbarca wrote:

Villa-Cesc-Silva
Iniesta- Busquets - Xavi
Enrique-Puyol-Pique-Ramos
Casillas

Euro 2012 Champions!

do u seriously have Cesc Fabregas as a CF for Spain? or even as a False 9? David Silva in this role is pushing it... but Fabregas there is laughable... im sorry.

Silva can play as false 9. Villa on the left, Pedro on the right.

Also it should be one of Busquets or Alonso in the middle, not both, especially if Silva does play as false 9.

Xavi isn't an AM to play ahead of 2 DM's.

Not to mention Xabi is willing to take a bullet for the team while Biscuits likes to pretend that he did.

Also

second top scorer.



#Dealwithit

king_alex10 wrote:

Khaledbarca wrote:

Villa-Cesc-Silva
Iniesta- Busquets - Xavi
Enrique-Puyol-Pique-Ramos
Casillas

Euro 2012 Champions!

do u seriously have Cesc Fabregas as a CF for Spain? or even as a False 9? David Silva in this role is pushing it... but Fabregas there is laughable... im sorry.

Actually he has played well as a false 9 for Barca. He has good finishing and can create too.

No Silva would fail in the role.
for one he is no Messi,not even close.Secondly he doesnt score enough.

A good false 9 needs to be good at beating players and shooting/passing while also taking bumps.

Silva would get bullied by CB's if he played there.

Unless the EPL can change that for him.

He's good at shooting however so are a lot of other DM's like Essien, Yaya Toure, Pirlo and Schweinstiger.


Also Iniesta and Xavi as CM's is more effective.

----------Busquets
------Xavi---------Iniesta
-Pedro--------------------Villa
-----------Silva/Torres/Fabregas

Silva hasn't scored enough maybe because he hasn't actually played as a false 9 before?

Also in terms of what is required from a false 9:

Passing - Check
Intelligent shooting - Check
Good Dribbling - Check

The CB's wouldn't really even be near him as he'd usually be deep.

mtfootball wrote:

king_alex10 wrote:

Khaledbarca wrote:

Villa-Cesc-Silva
Iniesta- Busquets - Xavi
Enrique-Puyol-Pique-Ramos
Casillas

Euro 2012 Champions!

do u seriously have Cesc Fabregas as a CF for Spain? or even as a False 9? David Silva in this role is pushing it... but Fabregas there is laughable... im sorry.

Actually he has played well as a false 9 for Barca. He has good finishing and can create too.

Firstly spain and barca tactics arent the same,secondly formation=/=tactics thirdly yhe only reason fabregas is playing false 9 is because messi is next to him.

Silva has the movement of a false 9, but his finishing is lacklustre. Thats all he has over fab tbh, his on the ball movement, off the ball they are similar, finishing fab is better. Silva is silkier and is sexier on the ball. But the whole false 9 thing is getting talked about far too much tbh. The model false 9 is still Totti.

Adit wrote:

mtfootball wrote:

king_alex10 wrote:

Khaledbarca wrote:

Villa-Cesc-Silva
Iniesta- Busquets - Xavi
Enrique-Puyol-Pique-Ramos
Casillas

Euro 2012 Champions!

do u seriously have Cesc Fabregas as a CF for Spain? or even as a False 9? David Silva in this role is pushing it... but Fabregas there is laughable... im sorry.

Actually he has played well as a false 9 for Barca. He has good finishing and can create too.

Firstly spain and barca tactics arent the same,secondly formation=/=tactics thirdly yhe only reason fabregas is playing false 9 is because messi is next to him.

exactly.

And not to mention, Fabregas doesnt have the strength and tenacity to play that role... Messi, even with his shorter size, has the hunger, the speed, the grit, the drive, and the intensity to fight through defenses... he has the skill to hold onto the ball... and he makes it look easy...

Fabregas and Silva (Silva would be better at it) would get bullied too much IMO... that is just IMO, but I dont think it would work.

Someone read a tactic book first time in their life.

Divine Intervention wrote:Someone read a tactic book first time in their life.

and who is that?

king_alex10 wrote:

Divine Intervention wrote:Someone read a tactic book first time in their life.

and who is that?

OP I guess. Tactics should suit players in given squads not the other way around.

I mean, he is going by what he saw in a performance... which worked.

In the long run, I dont see it being effective

Sushi Master wrote:I'm really looking forward to seeing Spain play top opposition. We have too much hype going along lately.

Bring on the Euros.

Winning Euros and the World Cup will give a NT much deserved hype

king_alex10 wrote:I mean, he is going by what he saw in a performance... which worked.

In the long run, I dont see it being effective

Against Scottland?
He'll fail in false nine role against any decent technical CB pair.

Spain pretty much have Barca's midfield and attack except Messi. Barca are successful so Spain should use that as an advantage and use similar tactics.

mtfootball wrote:Spain pretty much have Barca's midfield and attack except Messi. Barca are successful so Spain should use that as an advantage and use similar tactics.

Firstly spain tactics are alot different from barca tactics,any one who says both uses same tactics are tactically inept. .Xabi-Busquet duo has been very successful as it gives extra protection needed for a international match defensively with out giving away creativity as Alonso is one hell of a creative player at the same time being defensively good.Also Iniesta starting on wings and dropping into midfield to link up with the midfield has been an extreamly successful tactics Del bosque developed as it drags the opposition full backs alot inside and makes space for Ramos/Enrique to overlap (reason why Ramos was one of the best player against Germany ) and simply out numbers the midfield to control the match.

Now the David silva situation.Since VDB will always play with that double pivot with busquet placed bit lower as a sweeper midfielder only option silva has is to play in front three of Espana.Since Iniesta is already starting in front 3 and atleast 2 goal scorers are needed i cant see silva getting a start ahead 2 other goal scorers as it will definitely affect their scoring probability.Silva might get a chance if either of iniesta,xabi or xavi is injured though.

Actually Spain would be a lot more attacking if they used 1 DM instead of 2. Also nothing can beat the Xavi and Iniesta combination.

Adit wrote:

mtfootball wrote:Spain pretty much have Barca's midfield and attack except Messi. Barca are successful so Spain should use that as an advantage and use similar tactics.

Firstly spain tactics are alot different from barca tactics,any one who says both uses same tactics are tactically inept. .Xabi-Busquet duo has been very successful as it gives extra protection needed for a international match defensively with out giving away creativity as Alonso is one hell of a creative player at the same time being defensively good.Also Iniesta starting on wings and dropping into midfield to link up with the midfield has been an extreamly successful tactics Del bosque developed as it drags the opposition full backs alot inside and makes space for Ramos/Enrique to overlap (reason why Ramos was one of the best player against Germany ) and simply out numbers the midfield to control the match.

Now the David silva situation.Since VDB will always play with that double pivot with busquet placed bit lower as a sweeper midfielder only option silva has is to play in front three of Espana.Since Iniesta is already starting in front 3 and atleast 2 goal scorers are needed i cant see silva getting a start ahead 2 other goal scorers as it will definitely affect their scoring probability.Silva might get a chance if either of iniesta,xabi or xavi is injured though.

Adit wrote:

mtfootball wrote:Spain pretty much have Barca's midfield and attack except Messi. Barca are successful so Spain should use that as an advantage and use similar tactics.

Firstly spain tactics are alot different from barca tactics,any one who says both uses same tactics are tactically inept. .Xabi-Busquet duo has been very successful as it gives extra protection needed for a international match defensively with out giving away creativity as Alonso is one hell of a creative player at the same time being defensively good.Also Iniesta starting on wings and dropping into midfield to link up with the midfield has been an extreamly successful tactics Del bosque developed as it drags the opposition full backs alot inside and makes space for Ramos/Enrique to overlap (reason why Ramos was one of the best player against Germany ) and simply out numbers the midfield to control the match.

Now the David silva situation.Since VDB will always play with that double pivot with busquet placed bit lower as a sweeper midfielder only option silva has is to play in front three of Espana.Since Iniesta is already starting in front 3 and atleast 2 goal scorers are needed i cant see silva getting a start ahead 2 other goal scorers as it will definitely affect their scoring probability.Silva might get a chance if either of iniesta,xabi or xavi is injured though.

Awesome post. Wanted to give you a kudos before I posted mines

Divine Intervention wrote:

king_alex10 wrote:I mean, he is going by what he saw in a performance... which worked.

In the long run, I dont see it being effective

Against Scottland?
He'll fail in false nine role against any decent technical CB pair.

which is why i said, "in the long run".

Its not something I see working out ona permanenet basis

considering silva's biggest asset is final third creativity and his finishing sucks donkey balls i'm going to hazard a guess that a fluke game against scotland (...) shouldn't warrant a change of position...

Your opinion do not count Che, he is an EPL god now, he has no limits