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Post by S32TABLANCA Wed Oct 12, 2011 10:21 pm

futbol_bill wrote:I'm a lot older than all of you so I'm giving a list;

Pele
Di Stefano
Cruff
Platini
Madonna (reluctantly)
Zidane
Messi
C. Ronaldo


The latter 2 still need to do something at country level to really be on this list. There have been many great players, exciting to watch but to make this list you have to have dominated at both club and country level.

If I had to pick just one from this list it would have to be Pele.

I never really thought about Messi or Cristiano seriously as 'best ever' players, but you include both of them in stead of Ronaldo, or Beckenbauer, or Laudrup... whatever. I am young, I cannot compare all these players. But as much as I like Cristiano, how can he be ranked above the old Ronaldo?

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Post by futbol_bill Wed Oct 12, 2011 10:32 pm

Saetablanca wrote:
futbol_bill wrote:I'm a lot older than all of you so I'm giving a list;

Pele
Di Stefano
Cruff
Platini
Madonna (reluctantly)
Zidane
Messi
C. Ronaldo


The latter 2 still need to do something at country level to really be on this list. There have been many great players, exciting to watch but to make this list you have to have dominated at both club and country level.

If I had to pick just one from this list it would have to be Pele.

I never really thought about Messi or Cristiano seriously as 'best ever' players, but you include both of them in stead of Ronaldo, or Beckenbauer, or Laudrup... whatever. I am young, I cannot compare all these players. But as much as I like Cristiano, how can he be ranked above the old Ronaldo?

I just think they have the potential to be on such a list. As someone earlier said, they are so good (at least he said about Messi), they make defenders look stupid. I don't remember any players standing out above all the rest as Messi and CR7 do (and yet I don't really like all the play of either of them), but as I said in earlier post they need to do something great at country level before they can be considered an all time great.

Ronaldo (Brasil), Beckenbauer, Laudrup, Eusebio, etc were all great players but in my mind they don't make this list.
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Post by Ganso Wed Oct 12, 2011 10:38 pm

messi can make it to the list,but cr?no way imo
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Post by S32TABLANCA Wed Oct 12, 2011 10:42 pm

futbol_bill wrote:
Saetablanca wrote:
futbol_bill wrote:I'm a lot older than all of you so I'm giving a list;

Pele
Di Stefano
Cruff
Platini
Madonna (reluctantly)
Zidane
Messi
C. Ronaldo


The latter 2 still need to do something at country level to really be on this list. There have been many great players, exciting to watch but to make this list you have to have dominated at both club and country level.

If I had to pick just one from this list it would have to be Pele.

I never really thought about Messi or Cristiano seriously as 'best ever' players, but you include both of them in stead of Ronaldo, or Beckenbauer, or Laudrup... whatever. I am young, I cannot compare all these players. But as much as I like Cristiano, how can he be ranked above the old Ronaldo?

I just think they have the potential to be on such a list. As someone earlier said, they are so good (at least he said about Messi), they make defenders look stupid. I don't remember any players standing out above all the rest as Messi and CR7 do (and yet I don't really like all the play of either of them), but as I said in earlier post they need to do something great at country level before they can be considered an all time great.

Ronaldo (Brasil), Beckenbauer, Laudrup, Eusebio, etc were all great players but in my mind they don't make this list.

Ok, I guess you can compare very well as we all know that today's players are in general better than in the past due to fitness and preparation conditioning etc. I cant contest your opinion since youve seen so much more than me, but I think the Brazilian Ronaldo really should make the list. Whatever.

I think Messi will eventually be able to be considered in the top 5-10 of all time, but not the top spot itself.
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Post by Arquitecto Wed Oct 12, 2011 10:44 pm

Some of the opinions are disappointing here.

Me?

Johan Cruyff.

Perfection can only be made once. He was it.
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Post by futbol_bill Wed Oct 12, 2011 10:45 pm

Ganso wrote:messi can make it to the list,but cr?no way imo

Ok let me redo list

Di Stefano
Pele
Cruff
Plantini
Zidane
Maradonna aka primadonna (reluctantly) -maybe we should just list him with henry for best hand ball

Suggestion - put up a poll with all of the names listed.
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Post by The Messiah Wed Oct 12, 2011 10:54 pm

Ronaldinho is the best player that has ever been.

No player was ever better than him

no player is better than him currently

and no player will ever be as good as he his until the end of time

Football was invented for one purpose, so Ronaldinho can play it.
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Post by SaintJoe Wed Oct 12, 2011 10:58 pm

Ronaldo Luís Nazário de Lima my hero :bow:

But yeah it's Maradona.
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Post by Seppuku Wed Oct 12, 2011 11:02 pm

Messi being mentioned in this is an insult. Not only an insult for football, but insult for the human intellect. Get real n00bs.

Anyways, Maradona is head and shoulders above anything. Best footballer by a very long shot. Top 10 best sportsmen ever.
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Post by Lord Spencer Wed Oct 12, 2011 11:07 pm

Titus Bramble and Amauri.
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Post by white_star Wed Oct 12, 2011 11:13 pm

Crimson wrote:Alfredo di Stefano


Really ?? You've seen him play ?? I mean you can have your opinion but I hate when people say someone is the best ever when all they have seen is YouTube videos, plus back then level of fitness and tactics were horrible compared to today!!
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Post by JAY-Z Wed Oct 12, 2011 11:15 pm

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Post by REWB Wed Oct 12, 2011 11:16 pm

Who do you think the best player ever is? - Page 2 Ali+Dia+Southampton ali dia...the legend :bow:
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Post by REWB Wed Oct 12, 2011 11:17 pm

no but really, ronaldinho was the best imo. he is what football should be all about.
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Post by white_star Wed Oct 12, 2011 11:21 pm

O and I vote Ronaldo from brazil or Ronaldinho two of the greatest players I have seen kick the ball!!! Two players I was able to witness play not from hearing reading or youtubing players from the 50s 60s and 70s
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Post by che Wed Oct 12, 2011 11:23 pm

ronaldo

don't even try asking which one
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Post by Guest Wed Oct 12, 2011 11:23 pm

white_star wrote:
Crimson wrote:Alfredo di Stefano


Really ?? You've seen him play ?? I mean you can have your opinion but I hate when people say someone is the best ever when all they have seen is YouTube videos, plus back then level of fitness and tactics were horrible compared to today!!

Yes I have actually

I have the majority of video footage of recorded matches back then not only for Real Madrid but International games and other teams as well.

Di Stefano played as well in defence as he did in attack there was nothing he couldn't do on a football pitch. Footballers have a huge advantage today with all the technology, fitness trainers nutritionists etc etc. If anything players back then accomplished more doing what they did with so little. Football was also alot more physical, ever tried kicking an old leather ball that's completely soaked? Let alone hitting it hard?

Don't begin to lecture me on the differences of the game between now and then, thank you.

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Post by Shamirr Wed Oct 12, 2011 11:28 pm

R9, Fernando Redondo, Ronaldinho... That's I've seen live
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Post by The Messiah Wed Oct 12, 2011 11:43 pm

Humans have to understand that we evolve to become better.

So current players are better than those Pele, Maradona and the rest of them lots.
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Post by Guiltybystander Wed Oct 12, 2011 11:44 pm

Who do you think the best player ever is? - Page 2 Johan-Cruyff

No flaws.
I have never seen a player SINGLEHANDEDLY win games plus revolutionize the whole game the way Cruyff has.

Despite the fact that he is a little annoying at times, the man is the closest to the football messiah one could get.
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Post by Jeps33178 Thu Oct 13, 2011 12:01 am

between Maradona, Di Stefano, and Zidane
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Post by white_star Thu Oct 13, 2011 1:37 am

Crimson wrote:
white_star wrote:
Crimson wrote:Alfredo di Stefano


Really ?? You've seen him play ?? I mean you can have your opinion but I hate when people say someone is the best ever when all they have seen is YouTube videos, plus back then level of fitness and tactics were horrible compared to today!!

Yes I have actually

I have the majority of video footage of recorded matches back then not only for Real Madrid but International games and other teams as well.

Di Stefano played as well in defence as he did in attack there was nothing he couldn't do on a football pitch. Footballers have a huge advantage today with all the technology, fitness trainers nutritionists etc etc. If anything players back then accomplished more doing what they did with so little. Football was also alot more physical, ever tried kicking an old leather ball that's completely soaked? Let alone hitting it hard?

Don't begin to lecture me on the differences of the game between now and then, thank you.

Im not lecturing, but you seem to know everything there is about this sport, and Real Madrid is the best at everything because Crimson says so!!! Really why dont you do yourself a favor and dont lecture me, because i bet you have never even been to Madrid, to an actual game!!! Even if you have it was probably a one time deal!! You were not around in those times so stop acting like you know how things were!!!
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Post by lenear1030 Thu Oct 13, 2011 2:13 am

che wrote:ronaldo

don't even try asking which one


cr7 right?
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Post by zarola Thu Oct 13, 2011 2:18 am

Ronaldo 9 or Gigi Buffon
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Post by Vapotrini Thu Oct 13, 2011 2:20 am

Maradona, and by quite a distance.

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