Delusional protesting of player bias

EarlyPrototype wrote:

aford92 wrote:

EarlyPrototype wrote:

aford92 wrote:

EarlyPrototype wrote:First of all Gil his Lyon goals were hardly better than the ones he scored in Madrid.

Second of all I don't know what you mean by ruined? he had a first bad season, but that was the past he is a much better player now.

Also Aford no one said Benz is good as R9, he just compared his style to his.

He should score more than 30 goals because he plays for Real madrid??? Do you know that Ronaldo scored 53 goals? and to get the amount of goals he did in the same team as Ronaldo is great.

Real Madrid is not the only big club with good service you know. Why didn't Villa, Drogba, Toress etc.. score more?

Villa was played on the wing and the service at Chelsea is nowhere near the service at Madrid.

Ronaldo was played on the wing.

So why was Drogba EPL top scorer the season before?

Ronaldo was always a winger he is used to playing there and is also the 2nd best player in the world. Drogba was top scorer because his style of play fitted in very well to Chelsea's style play that season.

R9 in his first season scored 30 then 31 then 24. Benz is not too far off in terms of goals scored. Your argument that Benz should score more is flawed.

Benzema 1st season 9 in 33 Ronaldo 1st season 30 in 44
2nd season 26 in 48 Ronaldo 2nd season 31 in 48

Please explain to me how that is not too far off. Also when Ronaldo was playing La Liga was much more competitive, RM and Barca didn't just steamroller everyone, Valencia won the league and Sociedad nearly won it one year. Better competition and more goals.

Stating the fact is not being delusional, Frimpong is the current best player in the world, learn to deal with it

Gil clearly doesn't know what happened to Benzema.

Benzema's first season was a bad season for him the real Benz we know is the one of the second half of last season (26) compared to R9s (31).

You are trying to put Benz down in every way. I mean scoring 26 goals is great whether you like it or not. Not every player can do that. If you think Benz only scores tap ins then well what can I say.

Lord Spencer wrote:I would adjust for inflation.

The increase in the number of goals is IMO due to the decrease in competition. I would count goals against bottom half as half goals. Goals against top half as regular goals, and goals against top teams (Europe) as two goals. Only then can you get an actual picture of the level compared to back then when about 8 teams gave Madrid hell.

Do you adjust for inflation when Serie A is weaker now ?

Also Aford do you consider Higuain to be good?

Well he isn't actually coz he only scored 28 goals therefor he is crap, overated and can only score tap ins.

EarlyPrototype wrote:Also Aford do you consider Higuain to be good?

Well he isn't actually coz he only scored 28 goals therefor he is crap, overated and can only score tap ins.

You have to adjust some of the goals because of inflation they are 1/2 goals now.

Can't be arsed to search for more but YouTube is your friend.

Magricos wrote: Gil clearly doesn't know what happened to Benzema.

your first two videos are the same goal and the one vs Sevilla is better.

Also he scored a screamer that doesn't mean he scored better goals.

Oliver Kahn is the best keeper in history (Lav Yashin who?)

Ronaldo scored 34 goals in 37 games in his first season in La Liga

Gil are you retarded you said RM spoiled Benzema and it is known that he gained weight and he was partying when he came to Madrid so clearly you didn't know.

EarlyPrototype wrote:Also Aford do you consider Higuain to be good?

Well he isn't actually coz he only scored 28 goals therefor he is crap, overated and can only score tap ins.

No I think Higuain is good. He is much more clinical.

Magricos wrote: Gil are you retarded you said RM spoiled Benzema and it is known that he gained weight and he was partying when he came to Madrid so clearly you didn't know.

no need for insults

aford92 wrote:

EarlyPrototype wrote:Also Aford do you consider Higuain to be good?

Well he isn't actually coz he only scored 28 goals therefor he is crap, overated and can only score tap ins.

No I think Higuain is good. He is much more clinical.

benz is a better all around player though

Ganso wrote:

Magricos wrote: Gil are you retarded you said RM spoiled Benzema and it is known that he gained weight and he was partying when he came to Madrid so clearly you didn't know.

no need for insults

What insult ?

Crimson wrote:

rwo power wrote:

Crimson wrote:For my mind not even in the best 10 keepers of all time, not even the best German keeper of all time

Well, I would put him in the Top 10. Best German keeper - well Sepp Maier was just great, too. ^^ Too bad he got injured in that accident and never recovered.

Over who? imo he is not any better than these keepers

Zoff
Yashin
Zamora
Buffon
Casillas
Maier
Banks
Tomaszewski
Zubizarreta
Schmeichel
VDS
Combi
Jennings

Thats 13 keepers better than Kahn without even thinking....

+1 for Tomaszewski - A legendary goalkeeper!

Magricos wrote:

Lord Spencer wrote:I would adjust for inflation.

The increase in the number of goals is IMO due to the decrease in competition. I would count goals against bottom half as half goals. Goals against top half as regular goals, and goals against top teams (Europe) as two goals. Only then can you get an actual picture of the level compared to back then when about 8 teams gave Madrid hell.

Do you adjust for inflation when Serie A is weaker now ?

If it was then I would, but the fact in the matter that it is not.

The levels between the top teams and the lower teams is not much which is what matters when doing it. Unlike La Liga. I would adjust for inflation for Inter in the first three years after Calcipoli because they were in a different level
but now all teams are similar in level that the odds of big teams losing are small. Unlike La Liga.

If you think La Liga now is in the same level of La Liga in the 2000's then you are being delusional.

Funny how Serie A is weak when two different teams have won the CL in the last 5 years. La Liga is a two horse race, with one horse running by himself.

So you think Serie A has the same strength as 10 years ago. The big teams in Serie A are not consistent.

Magricos wrote:So you think Serie A has the same strength as 10 years ago. The big teams in Serie A are not consistent.

I am judging the strength of the league based on the difference between the levels of the teams.

Let me rephrase, the closer the level between the teams are, the harder it is to score, therefore the league is more difficult. I would say now, Serie A is as difficult as 10 years ago, although I would count goals against the bottom 5 as half goals as well. The difficulty in La Liga is however less than 10 years ago.

But it is not only La Liga, I would say the Premier League gets 7-8 teams that would count as half goals. The level between clubs is getting bigger, while the level between nations is getting smaller.

Keep on counting it as half goals then the rest of us will just count it as goals.

So you are saying scoring now for Benzema is as difficult it was for Ronaldo to score.

Sorry, but that is delusional. Just as everything in life, you need to account for the difference in history when making comparisons. You don't compare the improvement of the rights of Women in the 20th century to the improvement of the rights of Women in the Roman empire without adding historical context.

The level in the competition have went down the drain, and the difference between the teams is astronomical. To treat it as if it were the same is delusional at best.

How is what Gil saying wrong?

Benz at Lyon was going to be the next superstar of football, I remember him saying how he wants to win Ballon D'Ors and be the best player in the world. When he said that, it wasnt outrageous, he looked like he had the ability to do that.

Now there is an argument between him or Higuain statrting...Higuain is great and all..but Higuain...

If he went to Man Utd, I think he would of been better right now, better taken care of.

The Franchise wrote:How is what Gil saying wrong?

Benz at Lyon was going to be the next superstar of football, I remember him saying how he wants to win Ballon D'Ors and be the best player in the world. When he said that, it wasnt outrageous, he looked like he had the ability to do that.

Now there is an argument between him or Higuain statrting...Higuain is great and all..but Higuain...

If he went to Man Utd, I think he would of been better right now, better taken care of.

Higuain is on fire at the moment. Don't tell me that Higuain at this form wouldn't start a argument of whos the next benchwarmer in any team in this form, only exceptions are Messi and CR. Higuains finishing is just absolutely demolishing at this moment. His runs are also out of this world.

I agree with Gil that he might have looked like the more explosive player in Lyon, but Higuain benching someone isn't unusual. In the end it seems like mentality and workrate wins. Benz defiently has the talent but he can get lazy, unfocused compared to Higuain that will always give his highest and Higuains goalscoring can match the likes of CR and Messi (IMO)

If Benz was the Ballon Dor level he seemed like he was going to be, it doesnt matter what Higuain would be doing, because he would be better anyway.

We know Higuain has qualities, but this argument was happening long before this recent run of form from him.

Its not about current level, people genuinely dont know who to play and who is better. If Benz was the Benz people thought he was going to be, this argument wouldnt even exist.

Its not a knock on him or Higuain to say that, its simply true that while Benz is doing well, people expected even more.