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Post by BarrileteCosmico Sat Oct 15, 2011 3:05 am

Speaking of, he hasn't been very active recently. Why is that?

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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Sat Oct 15, 2011 3:08 am

BarrileteCosmico wrote:Speaking of, he hasn't been very active recently. Why is that?

It's probably a mixture of trolls and probably just being busy.......

We all need breaks from this place for time to time, even me Very Happy
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Post by billionmillion Sat Oct 15, 2011 3:17 am

he can make tackles from 10 m away, best DM in last 10 years
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Post by Red Alert Sat Oct 15, 2011 4:47 am

Arguably the best defensive mid in past 5 years.
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Post by BarrileteCosmico Wed Nov 30, 2011 12:38 am

Khaledbarca wrote:Some Interesting Stats on this match vs Rayo:

- Possession: Just 61%.
- Passing Accuracy: 81 % Worst this season (average in previous matches 90%)
- Xavi made 30 passes in 54 minutes (83% accuracy) his worst performance Passing wise by farrr. ( His average was 110 passes in Laliga, 94% accuracy before this match)
On the Other Hand, thiago made 35passes (91%) in 36 minutes.
[Thiago's average before this match, 74passes (94%) ]

- Mascherano Great match, he made 8 Tackles, 9 Interceptions, 1 Clearance, 1 ShotBlocked won 2 offsides, Zero Fouls | 6/7 Longballs.
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Post by Swanhends Wed Nov 30, 2011 12:42 am

I'm not a fan of the hard tackling DMs anymore...more often then not they are a bigger liability than they're worth

Seems to be good as a CB though, especially last ditch defending

Reminds me of a poor mans Walter Samuel a couple years ago Very Happy
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Post by Ganso Wed Nov 30, 2011 12:45 am

hes very solid,but he tries to many star tackles,he is bound to fail miserably like in the last argentina game.
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Post by Khaled Wed Nov 30, 2011 1:26 am

~ Mascherano Stats (2011/2012) as a CB for Barca.
- Played 10 League matches (10starts) from 14 possible League matches.
- Passing Average: 67 pass/game (91% accuracy).
- LongBalls: 70/82
- Tackles: 4.1/game
- Interceptions: 3.5/game
- Clearance: 2.2/game
- Fouls: 13
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Post by michael1 Wed Nov 30, 2011 1:42 am

drakefyre wrote:
Sepi wrote:the only DM to hav a prime Kaka in his pocket :coffee:

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:coffee:

ahhh i remeber that game like it was yesterday Smile

still one of my favorite games of all time.

i remember me and my freinds celebrating fabras goal for that long that we didnt even notice when adebayor added the second lolll

and flamini if only he had stayed with us, instead of rotting on the bench at milan he would probably be up there as one of the best dm around if he stuck with us.
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Post by Ganso Wed Nov 30, 2011 1:44 am

Flamini was a starter until he put out the headless chicken he had inside him
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Post by Doc Wed Nov 30, 2011 1:44 am

I don't rate Mascherano period but I think he's equipped for both roles from what I've seen of him...
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Post by michael1 Wed Nov 30, 2011 1:47 am

Ganso wrote:Flamini was a starter until he put out the headless chicken he had inside him

its because he left arsenal Smile

its a known fact that when a player that arsenal wanted to keep leaves us they never go on to do well, and never reach the form they had at arsenal.

the only exception i can think of is cashley cole
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Post by Albiceleste Sat Dec 03, 2011 9:12 pm

World class in both positions

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Post by Dnmac4 Sat Dec 03, 2011 11:18 pm

I feel great with Masch as our last line of defense he's made so many last ditch/ goal saving tackles it's not funny. Plus he brings a nasty attitude to the team which is lacking at times.

What one poster said was completely true though in that he is bad in the air so he needs to partner with a CB that's good in the air other then that his skills as a CB are great.

Also, LOL at people who think it's easy to play CB for Barca in there high line. Take one look at Chelsea trying to do it with all there "great" defenders and you can see how hard it is.
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Post by Pedram Sun Dec 04, 2011 8:31 am

When he plays at CB he reminds of Ramos, both doesn't have great positional sense but their speed and workrate makes them reliable, especially against fast and skilled forwards.
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Post by M99 Sun Dec 04, 2011 8:44 am

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BarrileteCosmico wrote:Surprised at some of the comments on his ability at a CB. As Dani accurately claimed "he has CB skills on a midfielder's body". That's why he was able to perform quite well in that position even during big matches (for example, against Madrid repeatedly, & Manchester United). The 'any CB playing for Barca' attitude doesn't hold, just ask Chygrinsky.
He is incomplete in the air deparment. Pair him with someone who is supreme at headers, no problem. At least, he'll warm the bench less this way.......... Who is Dani? Alves?

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Post by billionmillion Sun Dec 04, 2011 3:00 pm

He was born as a leader. he even shouts at pique, and adriano is his bitch
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Post by Freeza Sun Dec 04, 2011 4:26 pm

I don't know how good he would be as a CB in any other team than Barca. But he is probably the ideal CB to compliment Pique in the Barca system, and he is a without a doubt a top 5 tackler in the world, a world class all round player
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Post by Albiceleste Fri Feb 10, 2012 4:30 am



:bow:

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Post by Harmonica Fri Feb 10, 2012 4:35 am

Albiceleste wrote:

:bow:
:bow:

Magnificent.
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Post by El Chelsea Fuerte Fri Feb 10, 2012 4:44 am

Albiceleste wrote:World class in both positions

A bit overdoing it, no?

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Post by Giovanni10 Fri Feb 10, 2012 8:04 am

If he were a few inches taller and had a better aerial game... dare I say it, best defender in the world.

I don't agree with the lack of positional sense, his positioning in both positions is flawless.

G*d what am I saying?-I'm supposed to hate him.
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Post by BarcaLearning Fri Feb 10, 2012 11:04 am

I remember reading somewhere it was thought he would play in midfield and be good at pressing, which turned out to be not very true. I also remember Maradona saying his best team is Mascherano + 10 others Razz But I think he meant hes so good at defensive and assurance hes that vital to any team. When he plays at CB I think he gives us that, the last line of defense ahead of the GK, hes got good man marking and pace, sacrifices himself and he is a pure defensive man always. Having said that I still think Puyol Pique are better CBs though... and we know hes a top DM so... I would say both good.
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Post by DeletedUser#1 Thu Jul 10, 2014 2:09 am

Unreal how Pep and Barca ruined his prime years by converting him into a CB.

The guy is a soldier. An absolute maniac. What a player he is when he plays in that midfield role. I am not fan of destroying DMs, but Mascherano is one of the very few elite ones left in that position and delivered in the biggest game of his career, despite not having played much in this position for almost 4 years.

The true captain of Argentina.

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Post by shinigami99 Thu Jul 10, 2014 2:16 am

FFS :bow: I made a thread but I deleted it when I saw this one

Such a beast in DM when he plays as a destroyer :bow:
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Post by BarrileteCosmico Thu Jul 10, 2014 2:23 am

The true captain of the squad! :bow: Messi is captain in name only really.
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