Re: Alonso: Tackling is not a quality for a footballer

by Zealous Sat Nov 12, 2011 1:20 pm

che wrote:
Zealous wrote:Alonso has one of the most tackles won on the Real Madrid squad so childish "he just jelly he can't tackle" is pretty LOL worthy.

alonso having the second most fouls in madrid (after ramos of course) is pretty lol worthy too i imagine...

You and I both know that what constitutes a foul in Spain is not much. The point is that he is capable of making a successful tackle.

Besides how does that even disprove his point at all? He's saying that youth players shouldn't be focused on learning how to tackle because there are more important skills a player should learn. Especially in midfield.

by EarlyPrototype Sat Nov 12, 2011 1:25 pm

"Alonso can't tackle" :facepalm:

by Freeza Sat Nov 12, 2011 1:29 pm

che wrote:pepe's got like 8 fouls, alonso 21... and pepe is insane...

Alonso is in the middle and therefor it isn't as risky to make a tackle, as for pepe who is the last man and that would result in a yellow card, atleast

by EarlyPrototype Sat Nov 12, 2011 1:32 pm

che wrote:pepe's got like 8 fouls, alonso 21... and pepe is insane...

You do realise that every foul does not mean it was a poorly timed tackle? Sometimes midfielders would deliberately bring down other players to stop the other teams counter attack. I have seen Alonso do it many times not only him, but even when Khedira and Lass are playing.

Also god knows how many of those fouls were dives. This is Spain diving is like drinking water.

by Grande_Milano Sat Nov 12, 2011 1:44 pm

spain is pussified football nation, wtf with fouls being called for anything. alons is a victim and is suffering

by The Franchise Sat Nov 12, 2011 2:21 pm

Mamad wrote:
The Franchise wrote:No surprise he thinks this, seeing as he cant tackle at all.

What? Alonso can't tackle? you are completely wrong.

Except im not, he cant tackle. He can foul alot while trying to tackle though.

Too slow, both his feet and his legs. Struggles against top quality dribblers.

Messi, Iniesta and Xavi have their way with him every single time.

by Grande_Milano Sat Nov 12, 2011 2:26 pm

add kaka to that list

by Zealous Sat Nov 12, 2011 2:30 pm

The Franchise wrote:
Mamad wrote:
The Franchise wrote:No surprise he thinks this, seeing as he cant tackle at all.

What? Alonso can't tackle? you are completely wrong.

Except im not, he cant tackle. He can foul alot while trying to tackle though.

Too slow, both his feet and his legs. Struggles against top quality dribblers.

Messi, Iniesta and Xavi have their way with him every single time.

Let's assume you are right and Xabi is indeed the physically incompetent player you make him out to be.

How does that prove his point wrong? If anything it proves him right because a player as successful and talented as he is got to the top without being good at tackling.

by Grande_Milano Sat Nov 12, 2011 2:41 pm

So we all agree Alonso mad cause he cant tackle, but he tries hard to be a deep lying playmaker. Poor mans Xavi-Pirlo

by Mamad Sat Nov 12, 2011 2:58 pm

The Franchise wrote:
Mamad wrote:
The Franchise wrote:No surprise he thinks this, seeing as he cant tackle at all.

What? Alonso can't tackle? you are completely wrong.

Except im not, he cant tackle. He can foul alot while trying to tackle though.

Too slow, both his feet and his legs. Struggles against top quality dribblers.

Messi, Iniesta and Xavi have their way with him every single time.

Being slow =/= ability to tackle.

by Gil Sat Nov 12, 2011 3:05 pm

It's pretty obvious Alonso is weak defensively. It's why Rafa, VDB, Mou have always paired him with a defensive midfielder.

by Freeza Sat Nov 12, 2011 3:10 pm

Gil wrote:It's pretty obvious Alonso is weak defensively. It's why Rafa, VDB, Mou have always paired him with a defensive midfielder.

Well Khedira is not a defensive midfielder, he is a CM. It is just that a CM/DM that can cover for him, gives him more time to be creative and pick his passes, nothing to do with his defensive capabilities

by Le Samourai Sat Nov 12, 2011 3:14 pm

Look IMHO the guy has the right to be pissed.

If I was him, I wouldn't appreciate tackling much either.

by Great Leader Sprucenuce Sat Nov 12, 2011 3:17 pm

But well timed clean tackles is probably the most difficult skill in football to master.

by che Sat Nov 12, 2011 3:23 pm

Zealous wrote:

Besides how does that even disprove his point at all? He's saying that youth players shouldn't be focused on learning how to tackle because there are more important skills a player should learn. Especially in midfield.

yes, but when a player who is one of the most clumsiest tacklers i've ever seen claims that tackling isn't a skill, it looks less like "opinion on what youth players should focus on" and more like "i can't do that, so i'm going to say it's pointless"

by EL Patron Sat Nov 12, 2011 4:25 pm

shocking stuff from Alonso

by Lord Hades Sat Nov 12, 2011 4:47 pm

Grande_Milano wrote:add kaka to that list

like in the 2007 final?

by BarrileteCosmico Sat Nov 12, 2011 4:48 pm

How is this shocking? A) He's not good at it B) He's Spanish, and they're not exactly known for their tackling.

by Zealous Sat Nov 12, 2011 4:55 pm

che wrote:
Zealous wrote:

Besides how does that even disprove his point at all? He's saying that youth players shouldn't be focused on learning how to tackle because there are more important skills a player should learn. Especially in midfield.

yes, but when a player who is one of the most clumsiest tacklers i've ever seen claims that tackling isn't a skill, it looks less like "opinion on what youth players should focus on" and more like "i can't do that, so i'm going to say it's pointless"

That still doesn't prove him wrong.

Besides read the whole interview he makes a lot of good points in it.

by EL Patron Sat Nov 12, 2011 4:58 pm

BarrileteCosmico wrote:How is this shocking? A) He's not good at it B) He's Spanish, and they're not exactly known for their tackling.

Fernando Hierro and Nadal were pretty good

by Zealous Sat Nov 12, 2011 4:59 pm

Hierro

by BarrileteCosmico Sat Nov 12, 2011 5:10 pm

gunnerlistick wrote:
BarrileteCosmico wrote:How is this shocking? A) He's not good at it B) He's Spanish, and they're not exactly known for their tackling.

Fernando Hierro and Nadal were pretty good

The fact that you have to go that far back to find good tacklers only proves my point...

by Freeza Sat Nov 12, 2011 5:22 pm

Sergio Ramos is a great tackler IMO

by The Franchise Sun Nov 13, 2011 5:37 pm

Zealous wrote:
The Franchise wrote:
Mamad wrote:
The Franchise wrote:No surprise he thinks this, seeing as he cant tackle at all.

What? Alonso can't tackle? you are completely wrong.

Except im not, he cant tackle. He can foul alot while trying to tackle though.

Too slow, both his feet and his legs. Struggles against top quality dribblers.

Messi, Iniesta and Xavi have their way with him every single time.

Let's assume you are right and Xabi is indeed the physically incompetent player you make him out to be.

How does that prove his point wrong? If anything it proves him right because a player as successful and talented as he is got to the top without being good at tackling.

So he is right then? Tackling isnt important?

Please. Just because he can survive despite this limitation doesnt make him right.

Iniesta cant shoot, still a great player.

by The Franchise Sun Nov 13, 2011 5:38 pm

Gil wrote:It's pretty obvious Alonso is weak defensively. It's why Rafa, VDB, Mou have always paired him with a defensive midfielder.

This.

by The Franchise Sun Nov 13, 2011 5:38 pm

Mamad wrote:
The Franchise wrote:
Mamad wrote:
The Franchise wrote:No surprise he thinks this, seeing as he cant tackle at all.

What? Alonso can't tackle? you are completely wrong.

Except im not, he cant tackle. He can foul alot while trying to tackle though.

Too slow, both his feet and his legs. Struggles against top quality dribblers.

Messi, Iniesta and Xavi have their way with him every single time.

Being slow =/= ability to tackle.

You cant be this dense, so ill just ignore you.

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