European football is not for all
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European football is not for all
There are types of players , whose game's style is not suit for european
i think Pélé wasn't .. he would not have been a goat , should he have played in europa
Same for Kleberson or Diego ( the one who went to juve)
Same for Melo, ex juventus too (remmenber ??)
Next one : GANSOOO i don't want him to fail , i always welcome a new talent but.. i'm sceptic. Would he find a team that suit his style ?? (like Xavi)Neymar is talented enough to survive but will need yo meet Right people at right time
i think Pélé wasn't .. he would not have been a goat , should he have played in europa
Same for Kleberson or Diego ( the one who went to juve)
Same for Melo, ex juventus too (remmenber ??)
Next one : GANSOOO i don't want him to fail , i always welcome a new talent but.. i'm sceptic. Would he find a team that suit his style ?? (like Xavi)Neymar is talented enough to survive but will need yo meet Right people at right time
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Melo and Diego were pretty awesome in Fiorentina and Werder respectively.
They just found themselves in the wrong place at the wrong time while in Juve. The place was a total chaos.
They just found themselves in the wrong place at the wrong time while in Juve. The place was a total chaos.
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Melo was fantastic for Almeria and Diego was great for Werder earlier in his career.
Kleberson, like loads of midfields of his kind (average with no physical tools) dont do well in the PL.
Ganso has elite vision and has a great final pass, can also dribble his man. The only questions for me are injury and perhaps some lazyiness. Not his style.
Kleberson, like loads of midfields of his kind (average with no physical tools) dont do well in the PL.
Ganso has elite vision and has a great final pass, can also dribble his man. The only questions for me are injury and perhaps some lazyiness. Not his style.
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Melo made his name at Fiorentina.
Diego made his name at Bremen
I'm fascinated as to how you'vve managed to link Pele to this considering his Brazilian leauge was considered by many to be on equal footing with European leauges or even superior.
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Not sure what's worse....saying that the goat wouldn't perform in Europe even though SA leagues were better back then,that Diego didn't play well in Europe or predicting that a youngster you dont even watch won't perform.might as well use that crystal ball for other problems mate
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isn't he a bit slow ? , i didn't get to see him play much ... to be slow is not the problem , depend of the teamThe Franchise wrote:Melo was fantastic for Almeria and Diego was great for Werder earlier in his career.
Kleberson, like loads of midfields of his kind (average with no physical tools) dont do well in the PL.
Ganso has elite vision and has a great final pass, can also dribble his man. The only questions for me are injury and perhaps some lazyiness. Not his style.
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Le Samourai wrote:
Melo made his name at Fiorentina.
Diego made his name at Bremen
I'm fascinated as to how you'vve managed to link Pele to this considering his Brazilian leauge was considered by many to be on equal footing with European leauges or even superior.
Yes but where are they now ? they definitely got the level to be in the NT or at least playing for a good club. They just played 3-4 seasons( let's say) at the TOP ? why couldn't they last more ?
Riquelme and Veron looked finished in europa, they went back home and even at 30's was still top class
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Bénin wrote:isn't he a bit slow ? , i didn't get to see him play much ... to be slow is not the problem , depend of the teamThe Franchise wrote:Melo was fantastic for Almeria and Diego was great for Werder earlier in his career.
Kleberson, like loads of midfields of his kind (average with no physical tools) dont do well in the PL.
Ganso has elite vision and has a great final pass, can also dribble his man. The only questions for me are injury and perhaps some lazyiness. Not his style.
Ganso?
Lots of players are slow, Hernanes, Cesc, Xavi..doesnt matter if you think faster than your opponant.
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Yea......because the leauges are slower and easier......
You think Adriano's game wasn't suited for Europe? It was perfect for Europe.....PERFECT......
Now a 250 pound Adriano is beasting in the Brazilian leauge............
Mistake 1: Classify Europe as Europe.There are different leauges where different players are suited .
Mistake 2 : To assume that just leauge impacts on whether or not you suceed there are countless other factors.BTW Turkey is part of Europe as is Spain....a couple of the guys mentioned are playing well anyway/
Mistake 3.....come on use better examples
You think Adriano's game wasn't suited for Europe? It was perfect for Europe.....PERFECT......
Now a 250 pound Adriano is beasting in the Brazilian leauge............
Mistake 1: Classify Europe as Europe.There are different leauges where different players are suited .
Mistake 2 : To assume that just leauge impacts on whether or not you suceed there are countless other factors.BTW Turkey is part of Europe as is Spain....a couple of the guys mentioned are playing well anyway/
Mistake 3.....come on use better examples
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Adriano beasting Brazilian league? He has only one goal and doesn't even make the bench these days, lol.
Anyway I get your point and agree it's one of the reasons some players don't succeed in Europe, even though it's not particularly the case of the above mentioned players.
Personally, I don't even consider Diego or Felipe Melo to be one of those who don't fit Europe, since they had had pretty good seasons and while they may not be setting their leagues on fire at the moment, they're at least doing well and starting for their sides.
In fact, the true intent behind this thread is to discuss if Ganso would flop in Europe, I feel.
Anyway I get your point and agree it's one of the reasons some players don't succeed in Europe, even though it's not particularly the case of the above mentioned players.
Personally, I don't even consider Diego or Felipe Melo to be one of those who don't fit Europe, since they had had pretty good seasons and while they may not be setting their leagues on fire at the moment, they're at least doing well and starting for their sides.
In fact, the true intent behind this thread is to discuss if Ganso would flop in Europe, I feel.
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Europe leagues are different between eaches other. Taiwo and Cisse was not good in Serie A but ok in BPL. Boateng was average in BPL, but good in Serie A. But player can go from Liga to Serie A or Serie A to Liga more easyly I think.
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leemhius, try telling that last bit to Zapata
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Zapata the Mexican revolutionary? Did he play football?
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leemhuis wrote:Zapata the Mexican revolutionary? Did he play football?
...from Mexico to Udinese to Villareal.
He's actually Colombian though (the player, not the revolutionary).
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I think you cannot say "European football" as one thing - you only need to look at BL, EPL, Serie A or La Liga - even these already are rather different among each other.
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What a load of BS
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