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Post by guest7 Wed May 09, 2012 9:48 pm

They beat some good teams on their way to EL final
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Post by Rebaño Sagrado Wed May 09, 2012 9:49 pm

no
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Post by Ganso Wed May 09, 2012 9:55 pm

we said the same thing about porto
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Post by Lex Wed May 09, 2012 9:56 pm

Bilbao had an infinitely more difficult route to the final. Beating Manchester United over two legs is itself an accomplishment
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Post by Die Borussen Wed May 09, 2012 9:57 pm

no. 2nd or 3rd tier team

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Post by Tomwin Lannister Wed May 09, 2012 9:57 pm

I'd like to say yes but they just aren't.

They get wiped out by Barca and Madrid most of the time, can't judge them until they make the CL which once again may not happen.

Porto might have been decent with AVB and Falcao.

Against city they relied on Hulk too much. They had no threat in the box what so ever.
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Post by BarrileteCosmico Wed May 09, 2012 9:58 pm

The test would be the CL, but it looks like they're not making it. It's a little silly in my opinion, the winner of the EL should get automatic qualification for the CL.
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Post by guest7 Wed May 09, 2012 10:02 pm

TomJuve wrote:I'd like to say yes but they just aren't.

They get wiped out by Barca and Madrid most of the time, can't judge them until they make the CL which once again may not happen.

Porto might have been decent with AVB and Falcao.

Against city they relied on Hulk too much. They had no threat in the box what so ever.

They get wiped by Madrid. Atletico has always challanged Pep and his team, so don't know what you're talking about there.

I think they're good enough to compete in CL. Obviously doesn't have what it takes to win it, but they're better than the likes of Udinese and co.
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Post by Die Borussen Wed May 09, 2012 10:04 pm

not better than the likes of udinese.. equal..

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Post by S Wed May 09, 2012 10:04 pm

No they simply arent..they havent proven anything on the big stage ,if they cant qualify for cl in their own league then they dont deserve to be called a top european team.

2nd tier team.
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Post by Zealous Wed May 09, 2012 10:08 pm

On their day they can beat just about any team except Real Madrid.
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Post by Mr Nick09 Wed May 09, 2012 10:09 pm

They have the talent, but they have always lacked the consistency.

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Post by halamadrid2 Wed May 09, 2012 10:09 pm

one game away from CL, qualified for more CLs than Juve in recent years, won the final of EL that Juve participated in.....

yes they are a top team, they have finally gotten themselves a proper coach and play team football, they got rid of the selfish players and got themselves workers... and you see the difference
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Post by S Wed May 09, 2012 10:11 pm

Let them qualify for CL consistently in La Liga atleast to come to such a big conclusion.Thats the least they can do.

Why do have to bring Juve into this ?How chlidish of you.
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Post by halamadrid2 Wed May 09, 2012 10:12 pm

well their coach got them from relegation candidates to within 2 points of cl in just half a season, HALF A SEASON

i mentioned juve because i found it funny you called them crap based on your points when juve havent even done better
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Wed May 09, 2012 10:12 pm

Have they ever got out of the CL group stage? Laughing
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Post by Lex Wed May 09, 2012 10:12 pm

hala bigging up Atletico so next time Madrid thrash them, he can pretend it was a hard fought victory Very Happy
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Post by halamadrid2 Wed May 09, 2012 10:14 pm

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:Have they ever got out of the CL group stage? Laughing

hope you do as good as them next year in EL, if you make it that is Laughing
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Wed May 09, 2012 10:18 pm

halamadrid2 wrote:
Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:Have they ever got out of the CL group stage? Laughing

hope you do as good as them next year in EL, if you make it that is Laughing

We are guareenteed EL group stage at the very least and who said we are a top european team? we havent been in Europe since 2007 ffs Laughing

Nice way of diverting the topic at hand because you know your beloved atletico are NOT a top european team Laughing
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Post by S Wed May 09, 2012 10:18 pm

I dint call them crap what you're on about ?.

You cant just brand them as a top european outfit by performing in second teir european competition where the big teams dont give a shit about.

How can you call a top team when they cant even qualify for a mere 4th place in their own league..People judge teams based on consistency as well and they simply havent got that..And team strength on paper means squat.All should be shown on the pitch at the end f the day.

Nobody gives a shit about this 2nd rate competition..top team my ass
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Post by che Wed May 09, 2012 10:19 pm

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Post by Le Samourai Wed May 09, 2012 10:20 pm

Juanfran is a WC right back.

The rest of those guys are bona-fide scrubs to be honest. :coffee:
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Post by halamadrid2 Wed May 09, 2012 10:21 pm

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:
We are guareenteed EL group stage at the very least and who said we are a top european team? we havent been in Europe since 2007 ffs Laughing

Nice way of diverting the topic at hand because you know your beloved atletico are NOT a top european team Laughing

how so??? if Chelsea win CL, Spurs/Arsenal?Newcastle will get the EL spot, i think it will go to Spurs so yh

why wouldnt they be a top team??? won the competition for the 2nd time in 3 seasons, will hopefully qualify for CL this season and pawn the teams there like they did this year in the league and el
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Post by Le Samourai Wed May 09, 2012 10:22 pm

They will not Qualify for CL.

Malaga will do better than them in CL and you know it.
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Post by halamadrid2 Wed May 09, 2012 10:22 pm

Surag wrote:I dint call them crap what you're on about ?.

You cant just brand them as a top european outfit by performing in second teir european competition where the big teams dont give a shit about.

How can you call a top team when they cant even qualify for a mere 4th place in their own league..People judge teams based on consistency as well and they simply havent got that..And team strength on paper means squat.All should be shown on the pitch at the end f the day.

Nobody gives a shit about this 2nd rate competition..top team my ass

top teams dont give a shit about???? looool just because Spanish teams are too good and rape all the other teams they meet doesn't mean its crap, more like the other teams need to get better

cry me a river
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