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true, but fullback implies that you can attack and create width on your side, which Jallet and VdW can do. they are hax but at least they play both ways. Having a player that is not competent going forward is like shooting yourself in the foot. why do you want to see two arbeloa's on the pitch?

Nacho isnt a fullback, that's it.

Maybe we can just get a versatile midfielder/s like Essien who can cover the fullback positions. I doubt any WC fullbacks will be happy being backup.

However maybe someone old and experienced could join to be backup?

Mr Nick09 wrote:true, but fullback implies that you can attack and create width on your side, which Jallet and VdW can do. they are hax but at least they play both ways. Having a player that is not competent going forward is like shooting yourself in the foot. why do you want to see two arbeloa's on the pitch?

Nacho isnt a fullback, that's it.

Dude, read my post, I'm saying he can play there and that can be useful in a long season not that he should start with Arbeloa lmao. It's almost like you don't want him to succeed, just give the kid a decent shot.

I'd actually give him a shot at CB next season. Ramos-Varane will likely be our starters and he can be a good back up.

Yohan Modric wrote:Maybe we can just get a versatile midfielder/s like Essien who can cover the fullback positions. I doubt any WC fullbacks will be happy being backup.

However maybe someone old and experienced could join to be backup?

I nominate Srna if we were to sign someone like that.

Zealous wrote:

Mr Nick09 wrote:true, but fullback implies that you can attack and create width on your side, which Jallet and VdW can do. they are hax but at least they play both ways. Having a player that is not competent going forward is like shooting yourself in the foot. why do you want to see two arbeloa's on the pitch?

Nacho isnt a fullback, that's it.

Dude, read my post, I'm saying he can play there and that can be useful in a long season not that he should start with Arbeloa lmao. It's almost like you don't want him to succeed, just give the kid a decent shot.

I'd actually give him a shot at CB next season. Ramos-Varane will likely be our starters and he can be a good back up.

it's not that i dont want him to succeed, why wouldnt i? but i dont want us to fck with our fullbacks. no no, having arbeloa around is painful enough.

send the lad to a la liga side where he can grow, i would rather keep Albiol as back up CB.

can they play both ways and space the pitch? yes, can arbeloa and nacho do that? no. what does "better" means really? nothing. think in terms of what they give you as players. And Bayern use that brazilian DM at LB a lot, while boateng also backs up RB. they can all attack and provide width. it's not a complicated quality, arbeloa and nacho just cant do it lol

As i said, we need to get rid of this arbeloa dude asap.

Nacho can be the third backup for cb, rb and lb all together, used as a utility player.

We need to develop youngsters as an alternative to marcelo, carvajal who are more attack minded.

For example, if or when coentrao leaves, we should sign lucas digne (best balanced young lb i can find) and sign some other young rb (dob over 1992) like adam matthews (celtic, also balanced rb like digne).

Addition to that, we need to sign another world's most promising young center back (dob over 1992/3) to replace pepe and keep albiol.

At least thats what i think to secure our defence for a decades.

why would you sign another 20 yo CB when your two starters are 27 and 20? Ramos and varane need extensive game time to get used to each other. a 20 yo CB on the bench with no playing time is never going to improve, and dont expect every youngsters to look like varane, they certainly wont, from the bench. when your starting CBs are that young you need veteran presence for backup. decade my arse, more silliness. how many games of a Digne have you watched? like i am gonna believe that you actually went online to watch a Lille game just for their left back, please go.

Every top club needs at least 3 world class cb's.

I assume we call ramos and varane world class, the departure of pepe will make us weak in defence, which is why we need another young cb, after good scout report, we can always buy another middle aged cb who is gonno be expensive and all, but i would prefer if we have a young one instead. Albiol recent performances suggested we can rely on him (at least more then epep) while the new cb makes his way.

For your information, varane was the one who we had in the bench for a long time and he turned out just fine, just like nastasic, juan, marquenhos and every other young talented rated cb's out there.

If you have read my post carefully it said:

we should sign lucas digne (best balanced young lb i can find)

doesnt mean he is the best lb out there, guaranteed world class and all, but he can be according to many and many scouts, researchers and talent hunters.

in fact i saw him play twice, and he was solid, but thats not why i rated him, i rated him based on what many many sources who regularly watch rate him, and watching him confirmed that. you might not believe that, but i do watch players that are really rated everywhere to see how good they actually are.

one more thing, go where,

they turn fine because they are starting, and playing everyweek getting better, not because they are stuck on the bench. and again, this tells me just how little appreciation you have for how good Varane is. kid is a near prodigy, fact that you expect other noobs to be stuck on the bench and perform just as well is unrealistic. if Varane hadnt started to play regularly for us, he would have been gone this summer.

Valkyrja wrote:Varane is a phenomenon, you see a defender like him once in 20 years, it's no way you can compare him with Nastasic, Juan or Marquinhos. Yes, they are good, they will probably be WC in the future, but not in Rapha's class.

Please stop....

SuperMAG wrote:As i said, we need to get rid of this arbeloa dude asap.

Nacho can be the third backup for cb, rb and lb all together, used as a utility player.

We need to develop youngsters as an alternative to marcelo, carvajal who are more attack minded.

For example, if or when coentrao leaves, we should sign lucas digne (best balanced young lb i can find) and sign some other young rb (dob over 1992) like adam matthews (celtic, also balanced rb like digne).

Addition to that, we need to sign another world's most promising young center back (dob over 1992/3) to replace pepe and keep albiol.

At least thats what i think to secure our defence for a decades.

Show some respect ffs

I am sorry. Arbeloa is a good back up, but Nacho?? Nacho should have been sent on loan to develop.

Arbeloa (despite providing almost no attacking depth) can be a good backup. Nacho has proven he's athletic and can play the game but not to the point that he can backup up any potential RB we might bring in, LB, or even our CB for that matter.


I think a loan to any other team in La Liga/Bundesliga would be greatly beneficial for him.

lol when did i ever said they are better then varane ffs. i said if we find a talent, and nature it, it can be as good as varane, i would be ok with having nastasic now as a 3rd cb. And besides, albiol has been great, much better then pepe did for whole season.

We will know what kind of phenom Varane is in the next 2 years... right now, he's only played 2.5 months as a regular. Too early to call him the next defensive Messiah. But he has all the potential and i can't think of a CB who played like this at the age of 18-19. Most CBs come into their own much later.

COPE saying we're interested in Barca's Thiago lol

Zealous wrote:COPE saying we're interested in Barca's Thiago lol

That would make me laugh for years... maybe decades if he became a goat

On a serious note, with Neymar gone to Barca, i give it a 99.9% chance we sign Bale. Zizou wanted him over Neymar to start with...

sportsczy wrote:

Zealous wrote:COPE saying we're interested in Barca's Thiago lol

That would make me laugh for years... maybe decades if he became a goat

Our number 11 is free as well btw. I could see us giving him that number for extra trolling.

Really hope it happens

sportsczy wrote:On a serious note, with Neymar gone to Barca, i give it a 99.9% chance we sign Bale. Zizou wanted him over Neymar to start with...

Yeah big name signing for us is guaranteed now. Be it Cavani, Bale etc

Flo will want to drop a bomb in retaliation