Re: Borussia Dortmund appreciation thread

by Sushi Master Thu Nov 22, 2012 2:41 am

Borussia Dortmund have looked like that for several years now. Their premature exit in last year's CL muddled their reputation a bit, but any Buli follower will know that there's a reason why they've won 2 BLs in a row and smashed Bayern every time they've faced us.

by la bestia negra Thu Nov 22, 2012 2:42 am

remmber the days evreyone called us shit because we are unable to overcome them :bow:

by Rev Thu Nov 22, 2012 2:44 am

Just the perfect example of how a football club should be run.

I agree with everything that was said before me except a fundamental thing everyone missed/forgot.

Their kits/fans/stadium are just affraid

by VanDeezNuts Thu Nov 22, 2012 2:45 am

they could make it to the final without question imo

by LeBéninois Thu Nov 22, 2012 2:47 am

They learn very fast , Klopp is a boss

I wish Kagawa and Sahin were still with them

by EL Patron Thu Nov 22, 2012 2:48 am

They have a chance, they will give anyone a game.

by S Thu Nov 22, 2012 2:48 am

btw Ninis where are you ? Very Happy

And to deepen your sorrow they've won the group as well Laughing

by Red Alert Thu Nov 22, 2012 2:49 am

They're class but I don't think they'll win it imo.

Still very inexperienced in Europe and not too sure how Klopp will do managing against a tactician.

by la bestia negra Thu Nov 22, 2012 2:52 am

Bénin wrote:They learn very fast , Klopp is a boss

I wish Kagawa and Sahin were still with them

with all honesty the made their choice i mean there is now way klopp would even consider swapping gundogan for sahin nor reus for kagawa

by S Thu Nov 22, 2012 2:52 am

ynwa wrote:They're class but I don't think they'll win it imo.

Still very inexperienced in Europe and not too sure how Klopp will do managing against a tactician.

He was able to collect 4 points out of a possible 6 against 'Da Greatest Tactician Da world'..

Klopp is one of the best coaches going around in the football world currently..I also do rate him higher than Mourinho :coffee:

by Die Borussen Thu Nov 22, 2012 2:52 am

Surag wrote:btw Ninis where are you ?

And to deepen your sorrow they've won the group as well

city will beat them in the last fixture :coffee:

by urbaNRoots Thu Nov 22, 2012 2:53 am

ynwa wrote:not too sure how Klopp will do managing against a tactician.

Wut?

by S Thu Nov 22, 2012 2:53 am

Ninis wrote:
Surag wrote:btw Ninis where are you ?

And to deepen your sorrow they've won the group as well
city will beat them in the last fixture

they've qualified buddy..What was your bet about again if i could remind you .......'Idiot' :coffee:

by la bestia negra Thu Nov 22, 2012 2:55 am

Surag wrote:
Ninis wrote:
Surag wrote:btw Ninis where are you ?

And to deepen your sorrow they've won the group as well
city will beat them in the last fixture

they've qualified buddy..What was your bet about again if i could remind you .......'Idiot'

topped the group even if they loose madrid wont finish first

by Die Borussen Thu Nov 22, 2012 2:57 am

Surag wrote:
Ninis wrote:
Surag wrote:btw Ninis where are you ?

And to deepen your sorrow they've won the group as well
city will beat them in the last fixture

they've qualified buddy..What was your bet about again if i could remind you .......'Idiot'

was under the impression if they lose against city and madrid wins that madrid would top the group, oh well..

jaja you won the bet ok, i asked for name change

still dortmund sux silent

by Red Alert Thu Nov 22, 2012 2:57 am

Surag wrote:
ynwa wrote:They're class but I don't think they'll win it imo.

Still very inexperienced in Europe and not too sure how Klopp will do managing against a tactician.

He was able to collect 4 points out of a possible 6 against 'Da Greatest Tactician Da world'..

Klopp is one of the best coaches going around in the football world currently..I also do rate him higher than Mourinho

Mourinho doesn't look motivated this season and he doesn't really take it that serious until the knock-out stages. Hold up. :coffee:

by S Thu Nov 22, 2012 2:58 am

Ninis wrote:if dortmund manages to qualify for the round of 16

i will change my name to idiot

thats how impossible its imo

Ninis

la bestia negra wrote:
Surag wrote:
Ninis wrote:
Surag wrote:btw Ninis where are you ?

And to deepen your sorrow they've won the group as well
city will beat them in the last fixture

they've qualified buddy..What was your bet about again if i could remind you .......'Idiot'

topped the group even if they loose madrid wont finish first

yup i am aware that they've topped the grp Smile

I predict them to go far in the tournament anyway.

by Die Borussen Thu Nov 22, 2012 3:01 am

Surag wrote:
yup i am aware that they've topped the grp I predict them to go far in the tournament anyway.

wanna bet? i predict them to get eliminated in the round of 16

by Arquitecto Thu Nov 22, 2012 3:03 am

Ninis wrote:
Surag wrote:
yup i am aware that they've topped the grp I predict them to go far in the tournament anyway.
wanna bet? i predict them to get eliminated in the round of 16

You have good character, which means you'll have to stick by your word and switch your name to idiot Laughing

I could PM RG for ya. Very Happy

by S Thu Nov 22, 2012 3:03 am

Ninis wrote:
Surag wrote:
yup i am aware that they've topped the grp I predict them to go far in the tournament anyway.
wanna bet? i predict them to get eliminated in the round of 16

Well i'll take up the bet after the draw :coffee:

Group stages havent finished yet you know :coffee:

by Die Borussen Thu Nov 22, 2012 3:07 am

Arquitecto wrote:
Ninis wrote:
Surag wrote:
yup i am aware that they've topped the grp I predict them to go far in the tournament anyway.
wanna bet? i predict them to get eliminated in the round of 16

You have good character, which means you'll have to stick by your word and switch your name to idiot

I could PM RG for ya.

yes, he listens to you Smile

Surag wrote:
Ninis wrote:
Surag wrote:
yup i am aware that they've topped the grp I predict them to go far in the tournament anyway.
wanna bet? i predict them to get eliminated in the round of 16

Well i'll take up the bet after the draw

Group stages havent finished yet you know

ok man

by Great Leader Sprucenuce Thu Nov 22, 2012 3:10 am

What tacticians left in the competition Mourinho a side who i personally believe is overrated as a tactician is going to do a job on Dortmund?

Dortmund won't win it but that won't be the reason.... the reason will be depth and the fact there's better teams than them.

Semi's is a possibility though but yeah they have been class for years, was just a matter of experience and a bit more luck.

About Sahin and Kagawa they are better off without them as strange as it sounds.

Kagawa has been replaced by Gotze really and they have added extra goal threat in Reus who is one of the best inside forwards around IMO.

Sahin has regressed since going to Madrid and Gundogan and Leitner have progressed into wonderful midfielders which they probably wouldn't have done if Sahin stayed.

by S Thu Nov 22, 2012 3:17 am

Agree with Mole imo..Gundogan currently >>>Sahin and Goetze has replaced Kagawa in addition to adding a fantastic forward like Reus to the team.

by Red Alert Thu Nov 22, 2012 3:18 am

Mole, the Champions League always has been about tactics and how a team sets up. It always has been.

It's why you see the likes of Mancini struggle in the CL as he's not a great tactician despite having one of the better sides in the world.

Mourinho is arguably the best in the history of the game.
Havn't seen much of Barca this season, but it looks like Tito is just continuing Pep's system which has shown it works. [Correct me if I'm wrong]
If Chelsea end up coming out of the group, Rafa is one of the better tacticians in the world.
Carlo, despite doing poorly in Ligue 1, is also great as a tactician.

I can go on and on. But I do feel if you can stop Dortmund's ability on the ball and not give them much too much space that you will frustrate them as they don't really have a plan B.

by Firenze Thu Nov 22, 2012 3:18 am

I'd rather face Madrid or Barca than Dortmund.

by Great Leader Sprucenuce Thu Nov 22, 2012 3:26 am

ynwa wrote:Mole, the Champions League always has been about tactics and how a team sets up. It always has been.

It's why you see the likes of Mancini struggle in the CL as he's not a great tactician despite having one of the better sides in the world.

Mourinho is arguably the best in the history of the game.
Havn't seen much of Barca this season, but it looks like Tito is just continuing Pep's system which has shown it works. [Correct me if I'm wrong]
If Chelsea end up coming out of the group, Rafa is one of the better tacticians in the world.
Carlo, despite doing poorly in Ligue 1, is also great as a tactician.

I can go on and on. But I do feel if you can stop Dortmund's ability on the ball and not give them much too much space that you will frustrate them as they don't really have a plan B.

Barca are just better than Dortmund tbf i doubt that will come down to tactics too much and i have watched Dortmund consistently over last couple of years and i'd argue Kloppo is no slouch in the tactics department.

I agree with the notion about CL tactics and how teams set up but Dortmund don't let teams play their pressing is immense and it's very difficult to stop the front 4 in full flow and the defence is great.

I just don't think tactical flaws will be their downfall..... rather a lack of depth and a selection of teams being simply better and quite frankly more experienced in the latter stages.

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