Germany V. France

RealGunner wrote:Sports heard Koscielny was brilliant but got an injury ?

Good to see Sagna is doing this good despite playing with a bruised ankle since weeks ( wenger mentioned this on TF1 )

Yeah... koscielny rocked. Avoided his typical brain fart that ruins his otherwise boss performances. He got a knock on his lower leg in first half and was taken out for precautionary reasons.

Sagna's ankle is still sore and he's playing through it per Wenger. Bad pairing with Sissoko on the right though. Sissoko can't defend and both have awful technique on the attack lol. Khedira looked technical compared to those 2 lol.

sportsczy wrote:

RealGunner wrote:Sports heard Koscielny was brilliant but got an injury ?

Good to see Sagna is doing this good despite playing with a bruised ankle since weeks ( wenger mentioned this on TF1 )

Yeah... koscielny rocked. Avoided his typical brain fart lol that ruins his boss performances. He got a knock on his lower leg in first half and was taken out for precautionary reasons.

Sagna's ankle is still sore and he's playing through it per Wenger. Bad pairing with Sissoko on the right though. Sissoko can't defend and both have the technique of rapists on the attack lol.

Ah thanks. Will catch the highlights tomorrow

Man Germany won after 26 years against France. Disappointing

You thought Hummels was solid? I thought he was very shaky and taking huge gambles. He's lucky that France finishing was bad... He kept getting dribbled and/or caught up field. He doesn't have good judgement with his aggressive play imo. Per, on the other hand, was solid.

I thought the CB play from Germany was very average in general.

Hummels was beaten twice by Benzema and didn't have an answer for Valbuena (who was insane today). Mertesacker has shown that he is the more composed and intelligent defender when against a series of pressures from attack. France was unlucky not to score.

RealGunner wrote:

sportsczy wrote:

RealGunner wrote:Sports heard Koscielny was brilliant but got an injury ?

Good to see Sagna is doing this good despite playing with a bruised ankle since weeks ( wenger mentioned this on TF1 )

Yeah... koscielny rocked. Avoided his typical brain fart lol that ruins his boss performances. He got a knock on his lower leg in first half and was taken out for precautionary reasons.

Sagna's ankle is still sore and he's playing through it per Wenger. Bad pairing with Sissoko on the right though. Sissoko can't defend and both have the technique of rapists on the attack lol.

Ah thanks. Will catch the highlights tomorrow

Man Germany won after 26 years against France. Disappointing

All the games have been friendlies i think in the 26 years. It really doesn't mean anything. To me, unless there's utter failure, final score of friendlies matter little.

I mean the guys played on Sat/Sunday with club, rested Monday, had one training session on Tuesday and then played today lol. What does it really prove?

Spain NT has a massive advantage there since 75% of the team play at Barca. They already know each other.

sportsczy wrote:Benzema is quickly putting himself in danger too. It is now 11 games since he's scored for France NT. If Giroud picks up his level a bit, i have a feeling Benz gets benched. He's lucky that the CF position is weak in France right now. But he needs to be careful. There is talent that can emerge out there.

Good. about damn time

Once again Sami "Aint nothing but a G thang" Khedira putting Germany on his back

Studzil >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

How did Lloris do?

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:Studzil >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

One stud feeds off another. Like the ebb and flow of energy in the universe, light and dark, life and death, yin and yang. All we can do is marvel as the waves of beta males crash onto the shore of alpha that is Sami and Mesut for all eternity

Zealous wrote:

One stud feeds off another.

LMAO

that Özil pass was pure class indeed.

Khedira was mainly awful other than the goal Z. He left his defense completely unprotected. Ribery and Valbuena were going through his area like he didn't exist lol. If it wasn't some truly pathetic finishing by all the France forwards (i can understand a save; but missing the target from 5-10 yards lol), he would've be one of the donkeys of the game.

Ozil, on the other hand, was amazing. in fact khedira's goal was all ozil. Nobody else makes that pass.

Gundogan was far more impressive to me. Sissoko didn't exist because of him. His technique was also impressive... you couldn't take the ball from him. Interestingly, when Kroos came in, things got easier in the midfield for France.

i don't get some of the drastic stuff that is written here. "ribery raping lahm".. jesus, france lost 2-1 and they didn't have too many chances against a german b-team. the ratings on any sports site reflect that.

you could see that germany still doesn't give an F about such games with hummels casually tryin to get the ball off the forwards on the inside, like he always does when he feels he can show off (yea i know, cassano). on the whole though he did his job. he could have jumped to intercept when we conceeded but it's no drama in the end. lahm was exposed a couple of times but it's god damn ribery, he is prolly in the form of his life. of course you can't lock that dude down for the whole 90 mins, especially if u wanna save some energy for the weekend..

other than that, gündogan should be given a go some more times instead of schweinsteiger who doesn't even show up for a friendly, like ever. couldn't care less about that loser anymore tbh. and what is it about kroos in the CM discussion? he has played the position a couple of times out of necessity and while he did a decent, sometimes good job, he still isn't a true CM. maybe in a couple of years and with more experience playin on the position, but for now he can't boss like ilkay did.

France doesn't give a F either lol. Deschamps is very Italian in that respect. We keep losing them. A lot of experiments tactically and massive rotation. We lost to Japan too in our other friendly.

And yes... Lahm got baptized. Just because we couldn't finish to save our lives doesn't change that fact. Agree that some players don't go 100%. But still. You don't just pack it in like that. I can't believe that he would.

CBarca wrote:How did Lloris do?

Very well. He made quite some brilliant saves to deny some additional German goals. Actually, both keepers were top notch yesterday.

Every time i changed the channel to this game hummels made a mistake lol

Ganso wrote:Every time i changed the channel to this game hummels made a mistake lol

So you switched to this game twice?

Seriously though, what's with all the hyperbole in this thread? ^^ Nobody was useless. Benzema's finishing was bad, yes, but his movement was good. Lahm got beaten by Ribéry like 3 times, which will happen to anyone playing against Ribéry. He still managed to force Ribéry out wide most times he let him go past.
Hummels really had a bad game, by his standards, but that's still decent, by most CBs standards.

I actually was quite reliefed, I thought our CBs looked much better than I expected, and Höwedes, who basically doesn't have a left foot, not doing well attacking on the left flank did not utterly surprise me.

I thought Podolski did well, he could've been more dangerous and was visibly taking his foot off the pedal in the 2nd half, but he was incredibly fast and explosive at times in the first half.
Khedira wasn't as good as I'd hoped defensively, but he was still everywhere and did get a couple of neat clearances in there.

The only one who really didn't show up was Gomez, who just doesn't suit Germanys playing style, TBH.

Both Lloris and Adler were bloody brilliant, Lloris even more so, like when he just managed to get the ball off Özil with the tip of his toes, before Mesut could square the ball off to Müller, who btw, is still f*cking beasting it.

Müller MOTM imho.

VivaStPauli wrote:

Ganso wrote:Every time i changed the channel to this game hummels made a mistake lol

So you switched to this game twice?

Seriously though, what's with all the hyperbole in this thread? ^^ Nobody was useless. Benzema's finishing was bad, yes, but his movement was good. Lahm got beaten by Ribéry like 3 times, which will happen to anyone playing against Ribéry. He still managed to force Ribéry out wide most times he let him go past.
Hummels really had a bad game, by his standards, but that's still decent, by most CBs standards.

I actually was quite reliefed, I thought our CBs looked much better than I expected, and Höwedes, who basically doesn't have a left foot, not doing well attacking on the left flank did not utterly surprise me.

I thought Podolski did well, he could've been more dangerous and was visibly taking his foot off the pedal in the 2nd half, but he was incredibly fast and explosive at times in the first half.
Khedira wasn't as good as I'd hoped defensively, but he was still everywhere and did get a couple of neat clearances in there.

The only one who really didn't show up was Gomez, who just doesn't suit Germanys playing style, TBH.

Both Lloris and Adler were bloody brilliant, Lloris even more so, like when he just managed to get the ball off Özil with the tip of his toes, before Mesut could square the ball off to Müller, who btw, is still f*cking beasting it.

Müller MOTM imho.

Lahm certainly could have done a better job on Ribery who has shown to be marked out by more than a few RBs (who I can name). Yes it was a friendly and Lahm at his age needs to conserve his energy but when you are in the same team training vs each other week in week out its usually expected that you know how your team-mates works when he attack you at least.

Hummels wasn't up to his standard as well and cost Mertesacker's positioning all to much. Aside from that he remained composed but outshone by Per.

I disagree on Howedes. Sometimes if you are out of position it doesn't bring you confidence to use your weaker foot. I've seen several times for Schalke in Hoewdes using his left foot for a splitting drive pass and even a cross when cutting in. Loew needs to start putting him in CB shift with Per and Hummels. Its disgraceful.

MOTM for me was Guendogan. Couldn't get the ball off of him and needs to start from now on.

Arquitecto wrote:Lahm certainly could have done a better job on Ribery who has shown to be marked out by more than a few RBs (who I can name). Yes it was a friendly and Lahm at his age needs to conserve his energy but when you are in the same team training vs each other week in week out its usually expected that you know how your team-mates works when he attack you at least.

That's a two-edged sword. Just as Lahm should know how to defend Ribéry, Ribéry knows how to evade Lahm, of course. And you bet Heynckes would be at both their throats if they'd have injured each other.

This is just a friendly in the end, all you can really take from it is whether or not both teams have quality players and they both certainly do.

rwo power wrote:

Arquitecto wrote:Lahm certainly could have done a better job on Ribery who has shown to be marked out by more than a few RBs (who I can name). Yes it was a friendly and Lahm at his age needs to conserve his energy but when you are in the same team training vs each other week in week out its usually expected that you know how your team-mates works when he attack you at least.

That's a two-edged sword. Just as Lahm should know how to defend Ribéry, Ribéry knows how to evade Lahm, of course. And you bet Heynckes would be at both their throats if they'd have injured each other.

Difference is that a fullback doesn't have a staple repertoire of patterns, combinations and 'algorithm' in an attacker can respectively predict his execution of defence. The whole role of the attacker it to combine the use guile and trickery with his honed repertoire and skill to cause an element of unpredictability in order to go past the marker. The marker's defence will be based on timing, positioning and intelligence which are all traits that cannot be visibly quantified or measured.

Zealous wrote:This is just a friendly in the end, all you can really take from it is whether or not both teams have quality players and they both certainly do.

pretty much lol.

rwo power wrote:

Arquitecto wrote:Lahm certainly could have done a better job on Ribery who has shown to be marked out by more than a few RBs (who I can name). Yes it was a friendly and Lahm at his age needs to conserve his energy but when you are in the same team training vs each other week in week out its usually expected that you know how your team-mates works when he attack you at least.

That's a two-edged sword. Just as Lahm should know how to defend Ribéry, Ribéry knows how to evade Lahm, of course. And you bet Heynckes would be at both their throats if they'd have injured each other.

Yeah and nobody has been able to mark Ribery without double teaming him tbh.... it's been like that for over a year and a half now. Germany played him straight up and this is usually what happens.

Low should let these Bayern losers out, they lack winning mentality. Keep Lahm, Neuer and Muller in the first 11. Captain Khedira

likeastar wrote:Low should let these Bayern losers out, they lack winning mentality. Keep Lahm, Neuer and Muller in the first 11. Captain Khedira

Neuer
Lahm Hummels Howedes Schmelzer
Khedira Gundogan
Ozil
Muller Reus Gotze

I'd still take Schweinsteiger over Gündogan, but that is indeed a tasty lineup. Dat offensive creativity.