Re: Summer Transfer Window 2013 Pt.II

by Nishankly Fri Aug 16, 2013 2:36 pm

We are 99.999999% going in with Agger and Kolo as our CB pairing Sepi. :facepalm:

by Helmer Fri Aug 16, 2013 2:48 pm

Nishank wrote:We are 99.999999% going in with Agger and Kolo as our CB pairing Sepi.

I am completely Ok with that...I remember how he stopped sterling last season, not by force but catching him with his speed and skillful positioning. I am sure he will perform good for us, but still we must get another CB.
Worry to me is only future of coates, i would love this guy to go somewhere he can play more

by DeletedUser#1 Fri Aug 16, 2013 2:49 pm

Nishank wrote:We are 99.999999% going in with Agger and Kolo as our CB pairing Sepi.

The only positive is, Kolo looks very good aerially and that's one thing we really struggled in last season.

by S Fri Aug 16, 2013 2:50 pm

Lucas-Gerrard
Suarez(Aspas)-Coutinho-Willian
Sturridge(Suarez)

Looks neat.

by DeletedUser#1 Fri Aug 16, 2013 2:59 pm

S wrote:
Lucas-Gerrard
Suarez(Aspas)-Coutinho-Willian
Sturridge(Suarez)

Looks neat.

If Willian deal happens, I genuinely think only City for definite have a better attacking line up than us ( Chelsea still not a top striker) .

One more CB and I'll be positive. Not seen Cissokho for years, so no idea what to expect from him.

by vegfootball Fri Aug 16, 2013 3:38 pm

Natalie Portman wrote:
S wrote:
Lucas-Gerrard
Suarez(Aspas)-Coutinho-Willian
Sturridge(Suarez)

Looks neat.
If Willian deal happens, I genuinely think only City for definite have a better attacking line up than us ( Chelsea still not a top striker) .

One more CB and I'll be positive. Not seen Cissokho for years, so no idea what to expect from him.

Chelsea:

Hazard/Moses-------Mata-------Oscar/De Bruyne

don't know André Schürrle going to fit

Striker's Ba,Torres,Lukaku

City:
Silva/Nasri---------Agüero------------Navas/Milner

Striker's Negredo, Džeko,Guidetti

by Art Morte Fri Aug 16, 2013 4:34 pm

ExtremistEnigma wrote:I want us to buy a proper midfielder for once.. too many forwards in the team.

Yeah, it's true that we'll be left a little short and/or unbalanced if either Gerrard or Lucas are unavailable.

by McAgger Fri Aug 16, 2013 4:34 pm

Natalie Portman wrote:
S wrote:
Lucas-Gerrard
Suarez(Aspas)-Coutinho-Willian
Sturridge(Suarez)

Looks neat.
If Willian deal happens, I genuinely think only City for definite have a better attacking line up than us ( Chelsea still not a top striker) .

One more CB and I'll be positive. Not seen Cissokho for years, so no idea what to expect from him.

Yeah definitely agree, like the look of that attacking front 4 a lot with Stevie and Lucas in the pivots. Wonder if we're waiting for deadline day to go in for Papa one last time hmm

by ExtremistEnigma Fri Aug 16, 2013 4:52 pm

I'd like us to buy Eriksen and Alderweireld instead of Willian pls. Mad

That side looks unbalanced to me.

by McAgger Fri Aug 16, 2013 4:57 pm

How's Willian's work rate? Eriksen works very hard from what I've seen of him over the years.

by DeletedUser#1 Fri Aug 16, 2013 4:58 pm

ExtremistEnigma wrote:I'd like us to buy Eriksen and Alderweireld instead of Willian pls.

That side looks unbalanced to me.

I think BR has had a word with Ferguson. screw defense and balance...just go and outscore the opposition :coffee:

by Helmer Fri Aug 16, 2013 5:05 pm

McAgger wrote:How's Willian's work rate? Eriksen works very hard from what I've seen of him over the years.

As far as I have read reports, seen little...he is sometimes out of position defensively and works hard but not comparable to our guy Hendo, whose work rate is almost matchless!! BR has to work on his defensive side a bit

by RedOranje Fri Aug 16, 2013 10:22 pm

HEIL MEIN REDS wrote:
McAgger wrote:How's Willian's work rate? Eriksen works very hard from what I've seen of him over the years.
As far as I have read reports, seen little...he is sometimes out of position defensively and works hard but not comparable to our guy Hendo, whose work rate is almost matchless!! BR has to work on his defensive side a bit

Well, given that the former is an attacking, flair-oriented Brazilian winger and the latter is more along the lines of a traditional English box-to-box midfielder who's game is built around hard work that's not particularly surprising.

by Red Alert Sat Aug 17, 2013 4:50 am

Natalie Portman wrote:
ExtremistEnigma wrote:I'd like us to buy Eriksen and Alderweireld instead of Willian pls.

That side looks unbalanced to me.
I think BR has had a word with Ferguson. screw defense and balance...just go and outscore the opposition

United has always had a solid defence during the Fergie era.

by Red Alert Sat Aug 17, 2013 4:53 am

HEIL MEIN REDS wrote:
something-red wrote:
HEIL MEIN REDS wrote:I cant really comment about 30m but he will be a good signing for us that will also take burden off cou's shoulders and we all have already agreed that he is just 21 now so it will also give him time to develop. Also for the oppistion teams it will be difficult to focus only on cou as they have someone else to worry about.
He's not a goal threat, he's not THAT creative, he's just... flair really. lol

30m for him would be as stupid as splashing 35m on Carroll or 20m on Downing.

He'll take the burden off Cou for 6 months before everyone realises he's just like Gervinho and then people will stop marking him. That's all he is, really. A Brazilian Gervinho. 30m for a player, especially on 100k wages is just ridiculous.
In season 12/13, he played 6 matches in CL, having scored 4 goals and 3 assists, involvment in 7 goals. His three assists were each against Juventus (away), Chelsea and Nordsjaelland. Out of 4 goals, 2 vs Nordsjaelland and 2 vs chelsea (away).
In season 11/12 playing in Ukranian league, in 27 matches 5 goals and 16 assists.

We'll see.

I tried getting into the Russian League (stopped watching after a month due to time zones) and saw nothing to be impressed by Willian. He seemed average when I watched him.

by iftikhar Sat Aug 17, 2013 5:54 am

What's the price of Willian! £30m or €30m!!! If it's the former I would be damned. Even that later seems very steep since he hasn't played in the major leagues.

by Art Morte Sat Aug 17, 2013 8:28 am

iftikhar wrote:What's the price of Willian! £30m or €30m!!! If it's the former I would be damned. Even that later seems very steep since he hasn't played in the major leagues.

£30m is being quoted and yeah, like I said earlier, paying the same fee that Shakhtar milked out of rich Anzhi now that poor Anzhi are trying to sell would indeed seem somewhat stupid.

by Fahim89 Sat Aug 17, 2013 10:13 am

James Pearce of Echo saying LFC are ready to bid upto 30m pounds for Willian! Let's hope we get this done before anything else pops up! I really hope & pray we do not fall like the Mkhi & Costa deals. . . Sad

by Helmer Sat Aug 17, 2013 10:18 am

something-red wrote:
HEIL MEIN REDS wrote:
something-red wrote:He's not a goal threat, he's not THAT creative, he's just... flair really. lol

30m for him would be as stupid as splashing 35m on Carroll or 20m on Downing.

He'll take the burden off Cou for 6 months before everyone realises he's just like Gervinho and then people will stop marking him. That's all he is, really. A Brazilian Gervinho. 30m for a player, especially on 100k wages is just ridiculous.
In season 12/13, he played 6 matches in CL, having scored 4 goals and 3 assists, involvment in 7 goals. His three assists were each against Juventus (away), Chelsea and Nordsjaelland. Out of 4 goals, 2 vs Nordsjaelland and 2 vs chelsea (away).
In season 11/12 playing in Ukranian league, in 27 matches 5 goals and 16 assists.
We'll see.

I tried getting into the Russian League (stopped watching after a month due to time zones) and saw nothing to be impressed by Willian. He seemed average when I watched him.

I think you can guess why i didnt put any other stats except CL for season 12/13

by iftikhar Sat Aug 17, 2013 1:39 pm

Fahim89 wrote:James Pearce of Echo saying LFC are ready to bid upto 30m pounds for Willian! Let's hope we get this done before anything else pops up! I really hope & pray we do not fall like the Mkhi & Costa deals. . .

Willian: £30 million
Goetze: £29 million

Just hope we aren't doing another 'Carroll' :-(

by RedOranje Sat Aug 17, 2013 3:07 pm

The difference, of course, being that the latter would take one look at an offer from a club outside of the EL, nevermind the CL, and laugh.

AND he had a release clause, which Willian doesn't.

by Fahim89 Sat Aug 17, 2013 3:49 pm

Ben Smith ‏@BenSmithBBC
@Waseem__B I am told tomorrow is 'D-day when it comes to #LFC interest in Willian. We shall see.

So, we can expect some news by late tonight or tomorrow!! hmm

Edit: Forgot to mention BenSmith's name

by RedOranje Sat Aug 17, 2013 4:16 pm

Or it's a random know-nothing Internet Bullshit Artist who's talking out his arse...

by Fahim89 Sat Aug 17, 2013 5:08 pm

RedOranje wrote:Or it's a random know-nothing Internet Bullshit Artist who's talking out his arse...

O sorry Red didn't get the full Tweet. It was actually Ben Smith replying to follower. Sorry i didn't get the name completely. & I guess he is pretty reliable. (Y)

by RedOranje Sat Aug 17, 2013 5:55 pm

Fahim89 wrote:
RedOranje wrote:Or it's a random know-nothing Internet Bullshit Artist who's talking out his arse...
O sorry Red didn't get the full Tweet. It was actually Ben Smith replying to follower. Sorry i didn't get the name completely. & I guess he is pretty reliable. (Y)

In that case yea... that's worth taking a bit more seriously.

by McAgger Sat Aug 17, 2013 10:16 pm

Jake Humphrey tried to catch Brendan out when he interviewed him he dropped in quickly "willian would be nice" and Brendan just smiled and Humphrey laughed and said "I knew you would do that when I asked that question"

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