Re: Gareth Bale discussion

by Clutch Wed Nov 20, 2019 6:24 pm

Apparently some players on the team found it funny. Terribly dumb on his part but its probably one of those jokes that you do and realize immediately how much trouble you're going to be in

by The Demon of Carthage Wed Nov 20, 2019 6:31 pm

I hated Bale, the player, but I have always liked him as a human being because he always came across as humble and likable. And even though I have always wanted Madrid to get rid of him, I felt bad at one point for him because there were times when the club, and Zidane in particular, didn't treat him that well and were downright disrespectful.

I'm talking about all those times when Zidane didn't even bother including him in the squad. Benching him is one thing, but completely ostracizing him from the group? That was hurtful. And it's not like Zidane had an unbelievably stacked squad that only the best of the best could make it. He called up freaking Vasquez instead.

I'm also talking about the time when Zidane publicly stated that Bale wasn't called in one of their preseason games because the club "is trying to sell him". This is just him being an asshole because even if you hate Bale so much and can't stand even his mere presence anywhere around you, saying publicly that you're trying to get rid of him was a dumb, dumb move. Not only will it drive his price down but also irreversibly break your relationship (this is assuming you even had one to begin with).

Now, please do NOT think, even for a second, that I'm justifying his "Wales, Golf, Madrid" thing. That was unbelievably unprofessional and disrespectful. And I'm guessing if he went as far as doing that, it means he doesn't give a fuck anymore and wants out.

But let's stop acting like he's the mother of all that is twisted and evil. Bale sucked as a player, but was an amazing and humble human being...until recently. And the way Madrid has been mistreating him has a lot to do with him turning rogue.

by futbol_bill Wed Nov 20, 2019 9:46 pm

Amazing and humble being? On what basis do you make that statement. This is the guy that never integrated with his team mates, the guy that regularly sent his agent to Flo with demands when he never had the confidence of any of the coaches he played under. Perhaps he has shown the characteristics you mention on the golf course as he had never displayed any of them in Bernabéu nor for that matter never in Spain.

Also keep in mind he hasn’t played in past month for some mysterious injury that somehow cleared up once Gales

by The Demon of Carthage Wed Nov 20, 2019 10:25 pm

Lately? Sure, you're absolutely right, he has been very unprofessional and the message he put on the Welsh flag was not only unnecessary but also outright disrespectful. He also failed to fill the hole left behind by Ronaldo and overall let the coach and club down, and didn't even seem that bothered by it.

I'm not defending him now, but I still remember very distinctly how he behaved when he was constantly benched and even at times ostracized from the squad when other players who aren't as talented as him would get included in the squad and even start at times.

Now, forget about how bad he sucks now as a player and consider this: how many 100m players and two-time PFA player of the year do you know would stay quiet without saying a word when their manager benches them for a lengthy period of time and puts them in the freezer? Then continue to train week in, week out and play through the whistles every time he plays, which is once every full moon for a couple minutes.

We've all seen players who don't come even close to his stature or accomplishments throw a tantrum for the lack of playing time and then immediately give their clubs ultimatums.

Bale's problem is that he overstayed his welcome and decided to stay even when Zidane was clear he was no longer in his plans. Any other sane player would've left a long time ago and not wait until he regresses so much that no elite club wants him (or to be more precise, elite clubs still want him but no one wants to match Florentino's evaluation and rightly so).

He has to go. I think both parties now understand this. But my point is, Bale is not entirely to blame for the obnoxious attitude he's displaying right now. His mistreatment at the hands of Madrid may have played a part in it. A big part, I might add.

by sportsczy Wed Nov 20, 2019 10:36 pm

Bale was never any good for us. He had big moments... but he was never a leader nor one of our most important players. He was always a luxury.

He thoroughly deserved all his benchings over the years by several managers.

by The Demon of Carthage Wed Nov 20, 2019 10:46 pm

The question is not whether or not he deserved the benching. I'm sure we all agree he does.

The question is, how many big profile players with big individual and collective accomplishments would stay silent amidst constant benching and ostracizing? Not that many.

Whether we like it or not, Bale acted at one point very professional and kept his calm when most players in his position would unleash hell on their clubs.

I didn't forget that, and to this day, I still respect him for it.

The flag thing, however, is inexcusable for me and he really needs to go now. No point in staying beyond this season just to collect the paycheck. I'm sure Klopp or even Mourinho can revive his career in the PL, and it would be best for both parties to part ways now because I firmly believe Bale has no future at Madrid.

by futbol_bill Thu Nov 21, 2019 12:38 am

Your ignoring the fact that most of his benching were due to his multiple injuries. That plus the team was definitely better with Isco was in lineup in his place under both Carlo and Zidane. Last couple of years, it has been others instead of Isco, but it was either his injuries or his poor play that resulted in the bench.

He may have come with a high price tag and salary, but he has been no way deserving or worth the price tag as evidence no one in EPL, where fans still rave about him, have made any offers for him!

He may not have beef about the benching, but he did send his mouth piece to make noise of his his complaints.

I say bunk to your “amazing and humble” characteristic statement!

by halamadrid2 Thu Nov 21, 2019 10:07 am

Bale didn't need to speak himself when he sent his idiot agent to do the talking for him. His agent eviscerated ZZ any way he could until the summer when ZZ responded to him and his view quickly changed to Bales loooooves Madrid and is happy and wants to stay bla bla bla. Don't fall for his boyscout charade

He couldn't complain about playing time because he had no legs to stand on. Benz is a good example of how the fans treat most players the same way. Before last season everyone of his touches were booed, Marca polls had him on 0.000001% staying. The fans wanted bloody Mayoral instead of him, which is the ultimate humiliation for any player. He like Bale didn't take the language seriously, was lazy and introvert

He kept his gub shut because like Bale he had no legs to stand on and look at him now, not only is he performing and scoring to make us proud but he is also loved by the fans. His name is chanted in every game

Bale had no interest to win the fans over, it's always been "they dont treat me well so feck them" he not only plays like someone is too entitled he also goes above the coach's head. That alone should set off warning bells. Not even Ronaldo did that and he was super annoying. He liked going to the press to tell them he was sad but you'd never see him disrespect the club ever. Neither did he go off to his NT and appear over happy in photos whether fake or not just to make a silly point that he is happier and more open with his NT teammates than club when one of the criticisms has been that he is an introvert because he doesn't socialise with his club teammates

If we are looking at how a person has behaved then why was James so universally disliked? He was disliked because his family liked to talk shit about ZZ and that one time he refused to shake hands with Rafa. If you think about it, that was his only sin unlike Bale who has been disrespecting the fans and club on an almost weekly basis. Nobody made excuses for him it was he deserves his ostracising and no other choice.

But Bale has had the British media and other fans calling ZZ unfair for treating him the way he does and that the fans only dislike him because he isn't Spanish which is ridiculous. Yet none of them are putting money where their mouths are to save him from the prison and instead we are lumbered with him. No I don't feel sorry for him. ZZ told him clearly he was unwanted yet he refused to leave. When Mou wanted him at Utd he didnt want to leave. Feck him let him rot on the stands and eff off from our club.

by Arquitecto Fri Nov 22, 2019 1:27 pm

Hala summed it up the best from all here and the Benzema-Ronaldo comparison was key for that.

I've come to understand this is what it is to play for Real Madrid. The Galacticos of then I remember even faced such treatment from Zidane to Ronaldo to Beckham.

Practically all players have and the squad remains for what it is due to them being desensitized the pressure and normalised to the expectations that comes in what is the biggest club in the world and fans who rightfully are entitled by this point.

The victim mentality has been cast by Bale, his agent and the British media itself. He is not a victim. He just is a shit player.

by futbol_bill Fri Nov 22, 2019 3:33 pm

Lol, it looks like Bale will be starting tomorrow!

Vinicius, Lucas, Brahim are out of lineup so it's either Rodrygo or Bale unless they go with a 4-4-2. I think the latter is very doubtful and Rodrygo has just arrived back from Brasil.

So let's see how he performs when fans are sure to give him a royal welcome after his flag display antics!

I predict another questionable injury will come about.

by FennecFox7 Sat Nov 23, 2019 1:09 am

This bale situation is way overblown. I doubt ZZ or perez cares. Spanish media are a joke

by chad4401 Sat Nov 23, 2019 2:52 pm

Lmao so much bs in the last couple pages, it's arguments like these is why the club is turning into a joke, bale did nothing wrong at all, Mijatović started all of this first with unnecessary comments bale laugh at it trolled him and the media, now people want to pretend like he is disrespecting the club, when teammates, ex players,etc, keep taking a dig at the guy, it's nonsense you all know it.

the fans and Spanish media has been against bale because he wasn't neymar, no matter how well he plays and crucial goals he scores, no one cares cause as usual RM fans and media can't take an L after talking shit, you guys only care about the club being respected when it comes to players you hate, when it's a player you like they can be trash and have poor attitude no one is bothered cause RM fans are full of shit.

I remember how disrespectful Madrid fans were to benzema always try to humiliate the guy over and over for bs reasons, he never reacted negatively to fans or media, that never stopped people from going overboard season after season, end of day you lot will use anything to shit on players, while scrubs like isco can be as shit as he wants and fued with the coach, fans and media backed him GTFO you are all hypocrites.

by chad4401 Sat Nov 23, 2019 3:01 pm

futbol_bill wrote:Lol, it looks like Bale will be starting tomorrow!

Vinicius, Lucas, Brahim are out of lineup so it's either Rodrygo or Bale unless they go with a 4-4-2. I think the latter is very doubtful and Rodrygo has just arrived back from Brasil.

So let's see how he performs when fans are sure to give him a royal welcome after his flag display antics!

I predict another questionable injury will come about.

Shut up bale has been good every game played this season and if the fans boo him so what, home fans have proven that their clueless sheep.

vini has been trash since last season, Lucas is injured wasn't that good when he played either, brahim is rusty, bale and rodrygo is the best options for RW, but as usual you don't know anything about footy, just talking shit.

by Cyborg Mon Nov 25, 2019 12:16 am

I loved how the Bernabeu treated Bale. He deserved it completed.

He should have apologized to the fans after the game. Even if he thinks the flag was a joke, it obviously upset the fans.

The club should have told him to apologize to the fans after the sociedad game

by BarcaLearning Mon Nov 25, 2019 3:08 pm

Can I just add that I always said Benzema had been unfairly criticised? Razz

Finally seeing some justice. As for Bale, I dont fully understand still after all this. I still remember when he first joined, it was like a honeymoon and all smiles Very Happy

I guess it turned out just many marriages, shit Razz

by futbol_bill Mon Nov 25, 2019 3:57 pm

When he pulled his latest antics; not playing for over a month due to some unknown injury which he forbade club from mentioning it and then somehow miraculously recovered next time Gales came calling and then the flag insistence in which he says he prefers Gales and then golf before Madrid, these were taken as a direct shot at club and fans.

So he therefore deserved all the boos and whistles he got. The comparisons to Benzema are not valid.

Benz got booed for poor play and now that he has been playing well, he is routinely cheered by fans.

Bale on the other hand is booed not only for poor play but as much so for his antics.

by The Demon of Carthage Thu Sep 03, 2020 10:12 pm

I'm sure some of you have already read this, but to those who haven't, Bale had an interesting interview with Sky:

Bale wrote:I tried to leave last year but they blocked everything at the last second.

It was a project I was excited for but it didn't materialise.

There have been other instances where we have tried to go but the club won't allow it or they've done something.

It's down to the club. I want to play football, I am still motivated to play football, so I guess it's on the club.

They are in control of everything.

I have a contract, all I can do is carry on what I am doing and hopefully something comes up.

I am only 31 still but I feel I am in great shape still and feel like I have a lot to give.

We will see what happens. It's in the club's hands but they make things very difficult to be honest.

#JusticeForBale

by Perucho21 Thu Sep 03, 2020 10:42 pm

Only thing I rememebr is that Chinese club that tried to sign him for free. No way was Perez going to let a player that cost 100 million go for free Laughing

by futbol_bill Fri Sep 04, 2020 1:39 am

Bale stfu! Pure bullshit. His behavior in the stands, his golfing over team, his disassociation with teammates, his asking Zidane to not discuss nature of his injuries, his requesting not to play, all unprofessional. His saying he is ready to play and his desire to perform, all contrary to what we all can see. Sure he scored some important goals some eons ago, but he was missing in action for the majority of those early years. He has had amble opportunities to prove his worth and has failed miserably. Have I missed anything?

If this guy was anywhere close to what he and his agent proclaim, there would be offers for him, yet there is absolutely no interest. If he truly was professional, he would find another club to play and of course take a salary cut!

At this point, I’m sure Flo would let him go at a greatly reduced fee, much like was done with James, but to do that there has to be interest and of course his ridiculous salary demands have to change.

So he can say it is in club’s hands, but truth is Madrid is stuck with him likely finishing his last two years on golf course collecting 500K a week.

by sportsczy Sun Sep 20, 2020 5:21 pm

Hazard is taking over Bale's legacy... another overrated EPL player that can't hack it.

by halamadrid2 Sun Sep 20, 2020 5:26 pm

I am so dissapointed.

Hazard has not even helped us achieve anything and he is already permainjured

If he doesnt turn it around this season, he will lose his spot and will go diwn as the worst purchase ever (given the sum we paid and what we got out of it)

We should only buy from Bayern. We got Kroos for 25ME and now Pool got Thiago for as much.

Enough of these premier league plebs

by sportsczy Sun Sep 20, 2020 5:28 pm

He's injured because of that tub lard he carries around... he can't make weight lol.

by Cyborg Fri Jan 07, 2022 5:06 pm

So Bale is still injured.

The rehabilitation will see him recovered in time for the next international week.

Definition of a mercenary.

by BarcaLearning Mon Jan 09, 2023 8:31 pm

Retired... thoughts? Razz

by futbol_bill Mon Jan 09, 2023 11:01 pm

Nothing new. He actually retired from club futbol years ago. Now he can concentrate on his golf game,

by titosantill Tue Jan 10, 2023 5:23 am

If anything he should be thanking Madrid. he won a bunch of team honors with us, and we gave him about 3 titles if not more that he barely did anything for. Sometimes when players retire, you say injuries hampered them.

Had his injury issues but he checked out mentally. wanted to be the man at madrid, got the opportunity and did nothing with it. i thought he was already retired (and still getting a pay check from us). Imagine he retired with his spurs resume vs the madrid resume. I can see people inflating his legacy based on his madrid resume, so yes, he should be thanking madrid.

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